He's good, has had a few concussions which is worrisome for a big d-man. 41 points is his top season after 6 years and he gets more playing time than any player on that team. His numbers to date don't justify his 1st overall selection over Draisaitl. JMO
- winsix

Not sure we can find better to be honest. OEL I think will be available, but he LH D.

The more I think about it the more I think they will trade out AJ(odd man out) with Robinson ready for a cheap D. (2-3 million)Then sign an FA who is squeezed out of a good contract because of the flat cap. Let’s go with Gudas. You go into next season with

Muzzin-Holl
Rielly-Trade D
Sandin-Gudas
Dermott-Lehtonen

Might be time to put the top end D dream away.
- Santo_44

Rielly is te only good D Leafs have right now.
Sandin and Liljegren good young prospects.
Holl a decent bottom line guy, he's playing better than I thought.

Muzzin is still meh - I don't think he fits at all on this team, and he really doesn't bring that much physicality, he's too slow and he's quite bad on the PK as well.

Dermott can be on the 3rd d-pairing with Holl.

So far, Leafs have:

Rielly - ??
Muzzin - ??
Dermott - Holl

prospects: Sandin, Liljegren.

Dermott and Sandin can slide in on the left D side.

Seems obvious that the RHD side needs to be addressed.

Johnsson, Kerfoot, Muzzin, Dermott, Kapanen and even Nylander should all be considered in a trade imo.

I agree with your first sentence. But I can see the Leafs trading him if the Leafs fail miserably this post season. But that's really the only way I see it happening.

Marner has to step his game up big time. He was really bad last game. Hyman wasn't good either but I don't expect him to have two bad games in a row. And I'd bench Holl.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I agree with most of this, for me the two worst d-men in Game 1 were Ceci - 2 stupid lazy penalties and not much help to Rielly and Dermott. That play where Dermott got lapped by the Columbus forward when he pinched might have been the ugliest play of the night.

He's good, has had a few concussions which is worrisome for a big d-man. 41 points is his top season after 6 years and he gets more playing time than any player on that team. His numbers to date don't justify his 1st overall selection over Draisaitl. JMO
- winsix

You want to talk about bad looks, how about Sam Reinhart being taken before Draisaitl. Yikes.

Leafs did good with Willie 8th there. Hindsight is beautiful but the only players I'm taking ahead of Willie out of that draft are Draisaitl and Ekblad.

Bobrovsky playing like ass

You want to talk about bad looks, how about Sam Reinhart being taken before Draisaitl. Yikes.

Leafs did good with Willie 8th there. Hindsight is beautiful but the only players I'm taking ahead of Willie out of that draft are Draisaitl and Ekblad.
- joel878

Larkin
Pastrnak
Point

say hi

Bobrovsky playing like ass
- GreatGigInTheSky

And your point is ??? JK ..

Everyone knew the second that contract was signed they were screwed.

He benefited greatly from playing behind that Cbus system...

Don’t get me wrong he was good but not worthy of that deal.

Anybody seen the lineup today And the Pairs yet ???

Larkin
Pastrnak
Point

say hi
- MaximusAurelius

Yeah should have specified... That were taken ahead of Willie. My bad..

I like Willie more than Larkin. That's personal preference.

Pastrnak at the end of round 1 and Point in round 3 must make every scout in the league want to quit and work at Walmart.

Not sure we can find better to be honest. OEL I think will be available, but he LH D.
- RogerRoeper

As Scabeh correctly pointed out, I doubt Ekblad is made available by Florida, and there is also a risk involved. The best available might be Pietrangelo. There will be a bidding war for sure, and St. Louis will be the heavy favourite but that player might be worth dropping a salary or two for.

Yeah, I think the top-end Dman idea isn't happening.
- Aetherial

I’m not throwing that idea out the window but I see Dubas’s focus on finding a couple D man he can get for a combined 4 million that are good fits.

I believe you might know this song, but the video may seem strange



- winsix[

Those guys are just so smooooooth, although they look like a bunch of accountants on their lunch break. Funny coincidence is that for a couple of years all I really listened to was jazz and bluegrass. Not sure what was going on in my life then.

Rielly is te only good D Leafs have right now.
Sandin and Liljegren good young prospects.
Holl a decent bottom line guy, he's playing better than I thought.

Muzzin is still meh - I don't think he fits at all on this team, and he really doesn't bring that much physicality, he's too slow and he's quite bad on the PK as well.

Dermott can be on the 3rd d-pairing with Holl.

So far, Leafs have:

Rielly - ??
Muzzin - ??
Dermott - Holl

prospects: Sandin, Liljegren.

Dermott and Sandin can slide in on the left D side.

Seems obvious that the RHD side needs to be addressed.

Johnsson, Kerfoot, Muzzin, Dermott, Kapanen and even Nylander should all be considered in a trade imo.
- MaximusAurelius

Holl has been a top 4 D when you look at the stats. Why?

Well why does every D man look better with Muzzin? Coincidence? Not a (frank)ing chance.

Yeah should have specified... That were taken ahead of Willie. My bad..

I like Willie more than Larkin. That's personal preference.

Pastrnak at the end of round 1 and Point in round 3 must make every scout in the league want to quit and work at Walmart.
- joel878

Lines/pairs at practice yesterday same except Engvall in for da Goat

You want to talk about bad looks, how about Sam Reinhart being taken before Draisaitl. Yikes.

Leafs did good with Willie 8th there. Hindsight is beautiful but the only players I'm taking ahead of Willie out of that draft are Draisaitl and Ekblad.
- joel878

Agree.

Steal of the draft has to be Pastrnak at #25. He could be backing up the truck when his next contract is signed at age 27.

Holy fack.
Apparently this is the explosion

https://twitter.com/FadyR.../1290672517733064705?s=19
- Fakepartofme

Woooooow. That's a huge (frank)ing explosion.

Lines/pairs at practice yesterday same except Engvall in for da Goat
- Canada Cup

I like the change but it's rather unimportant when it comes to the need to get Ceci away from Rielly. I think that one bites them.

Lines/pairs at practice yesterday same except Engvall in for da Goat
- Canada Cup

Good.

No idea why Keefe didn’t do that the first game...that previous 4th line has been crap all season when put together.

I like the change but it's rather unimportant when it comes to the need to get Ceci away from Rielly. I think that one bites them.
- joel878

Ceci and Rielly have been fine ever since the Muzzin/Holl pairing has become the shutdown pairing.

Ceci and Rielly have been fine ever since the Muzzin/Holl pairing has become the shutdown pairing.
- Santo_44

Disagree. Rielly has clearly been better but Ceci is a massive liability. Ceci with Rielly means he's getting way more minutes than we can afford to have him on the ice.

Those guys are just so smooooooth, although they look like a bunch of accountants on their lunch break. Funny coincidence is that for a couple of years all I really listened to was jazz and bluegrass. Not sure what was going on in my life then.
- Canada Cup

Sorry to disappoint you. That video is of the famous song "take five" by Dave Brubeck originally recorded in 1964. The actual music was from a song by the British punk group the Stranglers. The editing is actually very nicely done. I am sure many people asked what is Dave Brubeck doing a cover of the Stranglers for?

I agree with most of this, for me the two worst d-men in Game 1 were Ceci - 2 stupid lazy penalties and not much help to Rielly and Dermott. That play where Dermott got lapped by the Columbus forward when he pinched might have been the ugliest play of the night.
- winsix

Ceci is one of the dumbest players I've ever seen play in terms of on ice IQ. Jack Johnson is the worst, but at least he had a few years where he could play 90% in the O-Zone before people caught on.

Bobrovsky playing like ass
- GreatGigInTheSky

What a disaster that contract is, especially on a team completely broke.

I’m not throwing that idea out the window but I see Dubas’s focus on finding a couple D man he can get for a combined 4 million that are good fits.
- Santo_44

It’s so hard to know what the market is going to be like when things open up. Besides the flat cap, what are franchises projecting about actual revenues and what they can realistically afford to spend? Will UFA look to short term deals and take a chance at injury or decline in play?

Sorry to disappoint you. That video is of the famous song "take five" by Dave Brubeck originally recorded in 1964. The actual music was from a song by the British punk group the Stranglers. The editing is actually very nicely done. I am sure many people asked what is Dave Brubeck doing a cover of the Stranglers for?

- winsix

Bastard. And I actually flagged you by mistake/not mistake.