Needs to make the SHL before I can give him consideration. As for Focht do very well in Utica whenever it gets running. Costmar has made significant strides but it has to continue. All in all any of the 3 could be a cheap future 4C. If any excels then 3C potential & Gaudette has competition.
- Nighthawk

March 2020 – Karlsson has found new life since a mid-January trade to BIK Karlskroga. The 20-year-old has 16 points in his last 10 games and sits top-15 in Allsvenskan scoring. With his contract up at the end of this season, there’s a reasonable chance he crosses over and helps fill the emptying centre-ice cupboard within the Canucks’ pipeline. Cam Robinson

Needs to make the SHL before I can give him consideration. As for Focht do very well in Utica whenever it gets running. Costmar has made significant strides but it has to continue. All in all any of the 3 could be a cheap future 4C. If any excels then 3C potential & Gaudette has competition.
- Nighthawk

March 2020 – Focht had a productive 19-year-old season for the Hitmen. His goal scoring metrics increased while his per-game totals plateaued. He was especially impactful in the first-half. The fifth-round pick has played his four seasons of WHL hockey and is eligible to move on to the American League. However, it wouldn’t be overly surprising to see him return as a 20-year-old and look to really blossom offensively. The Utica Comets’ lack of centre depth may play a role in that decision. Cam Robison

Needs to make the SHL before I can give him consideration. As for Focht do very well in Utica whenever it gets running. Costmar has made significant strides but it has to continue. All in all any of the 3 could be a cheap future 4C. If any excels then 3C potential & Gaudette has competition.
- Nighthawk

March 2020 – One of the final selections of the 2019 NHL Draft, Costmar bounced around a bit in 2019-20. Expected to make the SHL on a full-time basis, he was unable to secure any tangible deployment and ended up back in the J20 circuit. After shredding that league for a stretch, he was loaned to Sweden’s second division, only to once again come up dry for production. The 18-year-old concluded his season in the SuperElit league, leading that crop of players in points-per-game with 1.72. On a historical basis, that metric meshes extremely well with the few NHLers who spent their draft-plus one season in Sweden’s top junior circuit. We will once again look for the dynamic offensive pivot to secure a full-time job in the SHL in 2020-21. Cam Robinson

I know this is only one guys assessment of the 3 Canucks centre prospects, but he does have a not bad assessment of players.

Sure he has a good drive and a bit of talent, just not a fan of him.
Not going to start criticizing players on Canucks, I may end up hurting someone's feelings, or getting called a non-fan.
I understand his age is 23, but he is also only 6 weeks younger than Jake, who most want to get rid of, even though he is only 23.
- Reubenkincade

As golfing said, JV has been given every opportunity since he was drafted and hasn't been able to put it together in his 5 years here. Gaudette forced his way onto the team, forced management to keep him up with his level of play. Both players are still young and progressing, but one of them seems to be putting it together more than the other.

I view Gaud as Kesler-lite.

Kes' fourth season: VAN 80gp 21g 16a 37pts
Gaud's second season: VAN 59gp 12g 21a 33pts

As golfing said, JV has been given every opportunity since he was drafted and hasn't been able to put it together in his 5 years here. Gaudette forced his way onto the team, forced management to keep him up with his level of play. Both players are still young and progressing, but one of them seems to be putting it together more than the other.

I view Gaud as Kesler-lite.

Kes' fourth season: VAN 80gp 21g 16a 37pts
Gaud's second season: VAN 59gp 12g 21a 33pts
- NewYorkNuck

I get what you are saying, I don't agree with any type of comparison with Kesler though, other than they play the same position.
Kesler was a good centre at both ends of the ice, almost immediately, Gaudette, although is a hard worker with some skill, he is very questionable in the defensive zone.
The kid was a 5th round pick, my expectations aren't high,so I am fine with him filling in a gap until someone else replaces him.

I too don’t compare Gaudette to Kesler. Vastly different types of C’s. Kesler had the extra gear & a dogged determination approach to checking & shutting down elite C’s. Different personalties altogether. Selke type.

Be happy if Gaudette could improve on the dot & improve his D. 20 goals will be quite possible.

I get what you are saying, I don't agree with any type of comparison with Kesler though, other than they play the same position.
Kesler was a good centre at both ends of the ice, almost immediately, Gaudette, although is a hard worker with some skill, he is very questionable in the defensive zone.
The kid was a 5th round pick, my expectations aren't high,so I am fine with him filling in a gap until someone else replaces him.
- Reubenkincade

I generally agree with this. I think his development arc is quicker than a lot of players because of his intangibles. However, that means that he will most likely hit his ceiling quicker as well. Hopefully he can exceed what the perception of that ceiling is.

Not that I'm advocating Kesler comparisons but for the first few years, Kesler was supposed to be a defensive specialist centre. His offensive skills were supposedly lacking. He exceeded what was perceived to be his ceiling (though that's the difference between a 2nd round pick and a 5th as you noted.)

As golfing said, JV has been given every opportunity since he was drafted and hasn't been able to put it together in his 5 years here. Gaudette forced his way onto the team, forced management to keep him up with his level of play. Both players are still young and progressing, but one of them seems to be putting it together more than the other.

I view Gaud as Kesler-lite.

Kes' fourth season: VAN 80gp 21g 16a 37pts
Gaud's second season: VAN 59gp 12g 21a 33pts
- NewYorkNuck

not worried about gaudette. kid has only played 120 nhl games and something like 140 career professional games. there was huge improvement from his rookie season and should continue to solidify himself as a middle 6 nhler

I too don’t compare Gaudette to Kesler. Vastly different types of C’s. Kesler had the extra gear & a dogged determination approach to checking & shutting down elite C’s. Different personalties altogether. Selke type.

Be happy if Gaudette could improve on the dot & improve his D. 20 goals will be quite possible.
- Nighthawk

North Nuck was simply comparing point totals. Anyone that's expecting Gaudette to reach Keslers level is not being realistic. What we should do is compare him to other 3rd line centers around the league. And that's where you'll find his numbers are quite good. Top 10 actually. I looked into this and posted about it a few months ago. His growth from last year to this is very encouraging and I don't see why we can't continue to get better, defensively, strength wise, speed. He shouldn't be considered a stop-gap player - he's young, improving, cost controlled and most importantly has the drive/heart. He looked lost in game 1, don't surprise me one bit, lots of factors, I'm certainly not gonna crucify him. He'll bounce back.

North Nuck was simply comparing point totals. Anyone that's expecting Gaudette to reach Keslers level is not being realistic. What we should do is compare him to other 3rd line centers around the league. And that's where you'll find his numbers are quite good. Top 10 actually. I looked into this and posted about it a few months ago. His growth from last year to this is very encouraging and I don't see why we can't continue to get better, defensively, strength wise, speed. He shouldn't be considered a stop-gap player - he's young, improving, cost controlled and most importantly has the drive/heart. He looked lost in game 1, don't surprise me one bit, lots of factors, I'm certainly not gonna crucify him. He'll bounce back.
- Brooks_Light

Basically what I was getting at. Not that's he's near the defensive center Kesler was, but Kesler only reached that potential after years of playing in the NHL. Give the kid time – he's improved year over year and the defensive side of things are harder to learn. I have no doubt he'll get there and be a quality 3C for the Canucks.

Hopefully he gets the confidence up and is able to slot in on the second unity power play. He scored a lot of goals in college with that one timer.

Two results away from a 25% chance of either the Oilers or Penguins winning the draft lottery, in case you’d forgotten

Two results away from a 25% chance of either the Oilers or Penguins winning the draft lottery, in case you’d forgotten
- Pacificgem

Possibilities....

61 players have opted out of the NFL season so far, deadline still four hours away.

Basically what I was getting at. Not that's he's near the defensive center Kesler was, but Kesler only reached that potential after years of playing in the NHL. Give the kid time – he's improved year over year and the defensive side of things are harder to learn. I have no doubt he'll get there and be a quality 3C for the Canucks.

Hopefully he gets the confidence up and is able to slot in on the second unity power play. He scored a lot of goals in college with that one timer.
- NewYorkNuck

i think pp opportunity will hold him back in the kesler comparison. kes and hansen were the only right handed forwards during those prime twin years and was a big part of that 40g season he had. gaudette would have a tough time being on that unit with petterson with boeser and now toffoli ahead of him

Two results away from a 25% chance of either the Oilers or Penguins winning the draft lottery, in case you’d forgotten
- Pacificgem

Just terrible. IMO the order of the worst teams for him to go to: Oilers, Toronto, Pitts, Flames, Blackhawks, Jets. Don't really care about him going to any other team that much.

i think pp opportunity will hold him back in the kesler comparison. kes and hansen were the only right handed forwards during those prime twin years and was a big part of that 40g season he had. gaudette would have a tough time being on that unit with petterson with boeser and now toffoli ahead of him
- johnnykarate

I'm thinking they don't resign TT. Just seems like it's not going to work out – and I sort of don't want them to. However, TT can always play the net front/bumper position and Gaud the wall for one timers.

North Nuck was simply comparing point totals. Anyone that's expecting Gaudette to reach Keslers level is not being realistic. What we should do is compare him to other 3rd line centers around the league. And that's where you'll find his numbers are quite good. Top 10 actually. I looked into this and posted about it a few months ago. His growth from last year to this is very encouraging and I don't see why we can't continue to get better, defensively, strength wise, speed. He shouldn't be considered a stop-gap player - he's young, improving, cost controlled and most importantly has the drive/heart. He looked lost in game 1, don't surprise me one bit, lots of factors, I'm certainly not gonna crucify him. He'll bounce back.
- Brooks_Light

Do you mean NewYorkNuck or are they the same person?

There’s only 6 people who post with each having 20 alts.

#Canucks confirm that Micheal Ferland is 'unfit-to-play' for the remainder of the play-in series vs Minnesota. He has returned home and will be re-evaluated following the series.

Do you mean NewYorkNuck or are they the same person?

There’s only 6 people who post with each having 20 alts.
- bloatedmosquito

that's who I meant....

kinda like I meant Sid Vicious but call you Deryk Whibley

Do you mean NewYorkNuck or are they the same person?

There’s only 6 people who post with each having 20 alts.
- bloatedmosquito

I have enough trouble keeping track of my multiple personalities in real life, don't have the energy to do that online as well

#Canucks confirm that Micheal Ferland is 'unfit-to-play' for the remainder of the play-in series vs Minnesota. He has returned home and will be re-evaluated following the series.
- Pacificgem

Poor kid - cant imagine how frustrating that must be??

On a positive not, I hope to see ZacMac/Gaudette today

Just terrible. IMO the order of the worst teams for him to go to: Oilers, Toronto, Pitts, Flames, Blackhawks, Jets. Don't really care about him going to any other team that much.
- NewYorkNuck

Those two franchises have had multiple generational talents and ten Stanley Cups between them, it would a sad day if that continues when we’ve had one generational talent (Bure) and zero Cups in 51 years.

I'm thinking they don't resign TT. Just seems like it's not going to work out – and I sort of don't want them to. However, TT can always play the net front/bumper position and Gaud the wall for one timers.
- NewYorkNuck

i think tt is worth having if they can make it work. i was pretty happy to have the depth where the canucks had enough good offensive players to play on a second unit. its probably been since the west coast express days that weve been able to say that

Those two franchises have had multiple generational talents and ten Stanley Cups between them, it would a sad day if that continues when we’ve had one generational talent (Bure) and zero Cups in 51 years.
- Pacificgem

And Canucks had to cheat to get him.

And Canucks had to cheat to get him.
- 1970vintage

I was going to mention that, but I didn’t