Actually, what has he done?

Doesn't Mcdavid have 5-6 goals already?
- golfingsince

He's a 90+ point forward. HIs overall playoff stats are good.

Let's wait and see what those guys who signed for 2-3 years instead sign on their next deal.
- RogerRoeper

Anybody with a contract coming up in the next couple of years is hurting

Actually, what has he done?

Doesn't Mcdavid have 5-6 goals already?
- golfingsince

That’s great, fantastic for Mcdavid.

3 games does not decide a players value.

Marner is an elite talent and one of the best wingers in the game. At 22 he’s worth a (frank) ton and he could have the worst game of his career tonight and that won’t change anything.

Some fans have short term memory in their decision making and it clearly shows.

Then he'd be underpaid badly. He's really not worth 8-9 million per
- RogerRoeper

Jesus man! Patrice Bergeron $6.875m

That’s great, fantastic for Mcdavid.

3 games does not decide a players value.

Marner is an elite talent and one of the best wingers in the game. At 22 he’s worth a (frank) ton and he could have the worst game of his career tonight and that won’t change anything.

Some fans have short term memory in their decision making and it clearly shows.
- Santo_44

He's great but overvalued.

Jesus man! Patrice Bergeron $6.875m
- spatso

You can't be serious using taht as an example. Bergeron got as much as he could at the time and his cap % was higher than Marner's. Marner had 94 points prior to signing his deal.

Marchand's deal look great too eh? He had worse stats than Nylander when he signed his deal...

Same with the laughable notion Mackinon took a "Discount". He got every penny he could. He was a 60 point forward.

I think the leafs win this series.

But hey if I’m wrong I think they’d entertain a Marner trade.

Looking at top D in the league...the only realistic names that interest me in a Marner trade are Doughty, Ekblad, OEL.

This is silly.

What has Marner done to have his value tank? The leafs losing a playoff series doesn’t make Marner lose value ffs.

If that’s the case teams should line up for Mcdavid this offseason. His value is tanking because the oilers can’t win.
- Santo_44

Although I agree with your overall sentiment Santos....don't make ludicrous comparisons. The performances of McJesus and Marner in this play-in series are not comparable at all. Marner has been invisible, a non-factor in all 3 games.

Marner 3 gp....1 assist....1 point
Mc Jesus 3 gp....5 goals....2 assists....7 points

Not even a little bit close.....

He's great but overvalued.
- BINGO!

22 years old and already a 100 point player.

There are a handful of players in the league like him and every team in this league gives up the moon to have his contract.

He let's in softies every playoff year and hasn't wona series. His numbers are never even that good even when he's at his best. He gets way too much credit for every win and none for a loss. He' s faced less than than the goalies at the other end.
- RogerRoeper

Wrong but if it helps you sleep.

Jesus man! Patrice Bergeron $6.875m
- spatso

why are you nowhere to be found on these threads until Leafs are on the verge of playoffs elimination?
sucks to be you.

Although I agree with your overall sentiment Santos....don't make ludicrous comparisons. The performances of McJesus and Marner in this play-in series are not comparable at all. Marner has been invisible, a non-factor in all 3 games.

Marner 3 gp....1 assist....1 point
Mc Jesus 3 gp....5 goals....2 assists....7 points

Not even a little bit close.....
- hawk35

I don’t care about these play ins when deciding a players value.

It’s a grain of sand in the sandbox.

I think the leafs win this series.

But hey if I’m wrong I think they’d entertain a Marner trade.

Looking at top D in the league...the only realistic names that interest me in a Marner trade are Doughty, Ekblad, OEL.
- Santo_44

You can get OEL or Ekblad (OEL is LF Shot so he's out) for less than Marner. Those teams are screwed. Apparently there was pressure to move OEL out already the past year. (and teams know this so I guess no one will want to do Arizona " A Favour", or does that not work both ways?)

Mary Ormsby has retired.

That’s great, fantastic for Mcdavid.

3 games does not decide a players value.

Marner is an elite talent and one of the best wingers in the game. At 22 he’s worth a (frank) ton and he could have the worst game of his career tonight and that won’t change anything.

Some fans have short term memory in their decision making and it clearly shows.
- Santo_44

He still makes $11M/yr.

Let's not pretend that contract was offered with a flat cap in mind. There are players out there that make barely more than half as much that i'd rather trade for given their production vs cap hit, including Nylander.

You can get OEL or Ekblad (OEL is LF Shot so he's out) for less than Marner. Those teams are screwed. Apparently there was pressure to move OEL out already the past year.
- RogerRoeper

For a player as good as OEL I don’t think it matters.

22 years old and already a 100 point player.

There are a handful of players in the league like him and every team in this league gives up the moon to have his contract.
- Santo_44

lol no.

He doesn't have those numbers on any other team in the league except MAYBE Tampa.

He still makes $11M/yr.

Let's not pretend that contract was offered with a flat cap in mind. There are players out there that make barely more than half as much that i'd rather trade for given their production vs cap hit, including Nylander.
- golfingsince

And they don't have near the stats of Marner...

A friend last night (Rangers fan) had the following suggestion:

If the Rangers get the #1 pick, he thinks they should trade it to Ottawa for the #3 and #5.

I gotta admit, I could see that happening. If the Leafs get the #1, would we want to do it?

lol no.

He doesn't have those numbers on any other team in the league except MAYBE Tampa.
- BINGO!

Oh come on that's horsepoop. He was putting up impressive numbers with really crappy TOI under Babcock. Check out his 69 point season and his usage. He wasn't even a top 6 player the full year.

Leaf players generally prior to Keefe arriving were used less than their peers and were at a disadvantage.

I don’t care about these play ins when deciding a players value.

It’s a grain of sand in the sandbox.
- Santo_44

That grain of sand is stuck in a lot of vaginas of a lot of people on this thread

He still makes $11M/yr.

Let's not pretend that contract was offered with a flat cap in mind. There are players out there that make barely more than half as much that i'd rather trade for given their production vs cap hit, including Nylander.
- golfingsince

That’s fantastic. Let me know who’s available.

The point is this, when a 100 point 22 year old locked up becomes available, the entire league will want that contract.

It is rare for it to happen. That’s great that there are players you’d rather trade for...the reality is they aren’t available.

This is hypothetically speaking if Marner became available.

A friend last night (Rangers fan) had the following suggestion:

If the Rangers get the #1 pick, he thinks they should trade it to Ottawa for the #3 and #5.

I gotta admit, I could see that happening. If the Leafs get the #1, would we want to do it?
- Atomic Wedgie

Doesn't matter because the Canes will be picking #31 with the Leafs' pick

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Kerfoot - Matthews - Mikheyev
Robertson - Nylander - Kapanen
Clifford - Gauthier - Engvall

Would be the FW lines I'd like to see tonight.
Try to get some advantage by giving that 3rd line some opportunities to shine.


Rielly - Holl
Dermott - Marincin
Sandin - Liljegren

don't play Barrie / Ceci

A friend last night (Rangers fan) had the following suggestion:

If the Rangers get the #1 pick, he thinks they should trade it to Ottawa for the #3 and #5.

I gotta admit, I could see that happening. If the Leafs get the #1, would we want to do it?
- Atomic Wedgie

Not if AF is a player who can make an immediate difference and provide flexibility to make some moves.