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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 7 @ 12:30 PM ET
It would’ve been better if he did. The Leafs were doing perfectly fine drafting & improving at a very nice clip.
- Nighthawk


I'm pretty confident that Matthews will (maybe already is) top 3 center in the game and because he's in Toronto, will be overlooked and only talked about what he doesn't do. (Didn't hit 50 goals in 70 games this year?! Bust)
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
wtf there's another game tonight I'm not ready for this


gotta re-up on my amlodipine
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
I hate 47 goals.

PPG players suck.

Give me two Charlie coyles or Brock Nelson’s instead.

- Santo_44


Ok Roger, exactly what I said.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
It would’ve been better if he did. The Leafs were doing perfectly fine drafting & improving at a very nice clip.
- Nighthawk

wasnt JT's main thing on NYI was that he tried and could'nt win there.
so, he goes to another team and asks for a massive salary which inhibits the team to improve the roster in other spots...
its easy for me to talk about because its not my money but just saying...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
History will say one way or the other if 33m or 40% of the cap for 3 F’s can buy a cup.

Who would bet real money on a cup that those 3 will still be united?

- Nighthawk

I certainly think there will be some movement this summer.

The Leafs have Robertson and Soupy to (hopefully) replace one of Marner or Nylander.

They need to get better on defence.

But I'll say this: I think that people are overly critical of what the Leafs have done.

They drafted Marner. They knew he was going to be good, but I don't think anyone expected him to be that good, that soon.

They then drafted Matthews because that's what 31 teams would do.

And then arguably the biggest free agent in the history of the game (talent and age-wise) became available. They signed him.

I know that many would say that was a mistake, but it was acquiring an asset for free.

If they need to now adjust, I'd rather be in a position to have to trade because they have too much talent up front.

Note: there were no significant D UFAs that the Leafs could have signed instead.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
I don't know if it qualifies as a discount when you become the 2nd highest paid player in the league, behind only the best player.
- golfingsince


Supposedly he’d turned down more.
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Aug 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
Hopefully leafs will lose today. May finally force dubas to do something for defense. Not to mention a chance at the lottery.

I mean the other teams prove year after year making pretty passes and goals is not the most important thing to win hockey games, at leafs expense. There should be some changes to this jelly of a group.

AM, Anderson and Reilly are the only 3 untouchable in my book. If Dubas insists on playing midget hockey, fire him as well.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
Bobrovsky
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
Bobrovsky
- GreatGigInTheSky

now thats a contract florida has there
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
I certainly think there will be some movement this summer.

The Leafs have Robertson and Soupy to (hopefully) replace one of Marner or Nylander.

They need to get better on defence.

But I'll say this: I think that people are overly critical of what the Leafs have done.

They drafted Marner. They knew he was going to be good, but I don't think anyone expected him to be that good, that soon.

They then drafted Matthews because that's what 31 teams would do.

And then arguably the biggest free agent in the history of the game (talent and age-wise) became available. They signed him.

I know that many would say that was a mistake, but it was acquiring an asset for free.


If they need to now adjust, I'd rather be in a position to have to trade because they have too much talent up front.

Note: there were no significant D UFAs that the Leafs could have signed instead.

- Atomic Wedgie
Great signing. I would go back and give him the same deal to play for the Bruins.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
Ok Roger, exactly what I said.
- Garnie

Shouldz be paid 900K.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
Hopefully leafs will lose today. May finally force dubas to do something for defense. Not to mention a chance at the lottery.

I mean the other teams prove year after year making pretty passes and goals is not the most important thing to win hockey games, at leafs expense. There should be some changes to this jelly of a group.

AM, Anderson and Reilly are the only 3 untouchable in my book. If Dubas insists on playing midget hockey, fire him as well.

- gamerdoc


I like Anderson. But he is far from untouchable.

gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Aug 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
I like Anderson. But he is far from untouchable.
- Leafs43

It’s more of there is no one to replace him with.
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
Poulin on Leafs Lunch comparing Holl to Komisarek. Yikes.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
wasnt JT's main thing on NYI was that he tried and could'nt win there.
so, he goes to another team and asks for a massive salary which inhibits the team to improve the roster in other spots...
its easy for me to talk about because its not my money but just saying...

- wingz4life


to be fair, none of the other 3 had their deals yet
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
I like Anderson. But he is far from untouchable.
- Leafs43

wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
to be fair, none of the other 3 had their deals yet
- senstroll

could be worse. could have a goalie signed for 10 mill a year for the next 100 years and he cant stop a beach ball. (Bobrovsky)
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
could be worse. could have a goalie signed for 10 mill a year for the next 100 years and he cant stop a beach ball. (Bobrovsky)
- wingz4life


I think its fair to debate whether it was the right timing for the Leafs to do that.

but JT is worth it, at the time he is one of the best C in the game.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:46 PM ET
Meh at 22 years old just entering your career you have a lot to lose. That first contract is where you make your money these days.
- Santo_44


It's not like 6-9 million less on that first contract would have ruined his life. We are talking about a minimum 50 million dollars before the age of 27.

But somehow this kid decided he wasn't taking anything less than 50k lower than what John Tavares came off of the open market for, from his hometown team...
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
At some point you have to stop blaming the refs for losses. It’s every year, regardless of opponent. The league is not ‘out to get Toronto’.
- RickJames77


I'm sure we can find missed calls for the leafs too.

I also generally like to think that if you played well enough to get a large lead then it doesn't really matter about the refs. Play well enough to keep it out of their hands.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
Considering skipping tomorrow's game.

Check the score after. It's either game 5 or Lafreniere time.

Skip the torture

- senstroll


Was thinking the same Senstroll.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 7 @ 12:51 PM ET
I certainly think there will be some movement this summer.

The Leafs have Robertson and Soupy to (hopefully) replace one of Marner or Nylander.

They need to get better on defence.

But I'll say this: I think that people are overly critical of what the Leafs have done.

They drafted Marner. They knew he was going to be good, but I don't think anyone expected him to be that good, that soon.

They then drafted Matthews because that's what 31 teams would do.

And then arguably the biggest free agent in the history of the game (talent and age-wise) became available. They signed him.

I know that many would say that was a mistake, but it was acquiring an asset for free.

If they need to now adjust, I'd rather be in a position to have to trade because they have too much talent up front.

Note: there were no significant D UFAs that the Leafs could have signed instead.

- Atomic Wedgie


Neids @ any age is a better FA signing... Come on, usually you're rock solid but this one is brutal.

When we signed him it basically won us a cup.. I haven't seen anything close to that from JT.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:53 PM ET
I was ridiculed & laughed at in here suggesting Tanev for Kapanen last offseason.

Does this still hold true now?

- Nighthawk


The Leafs lost a game.

Hopefully management didn't lose their minds.

Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
At some point you have to stop blaming the refs for losses. It’s every year, regardless of opponent. The league is not ‘out to get Toronto’.
- RickJames77


All I want is consistency.

I really am sick of refs making up calls (or ignoring clear infractions) in a misguided attempt to influence the game. It happens in most games I watch, not just leaf games.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 1:02 PM ET
It's not like 6-9 million less on that first contract would have ruined his life. We are talking about a minimum 50 million dollars before the age of 27.

But somehow this kid decided he wasn't taking anything less than 50k lower than what John Tavares came off of the open market for, from his hometown team...

- joel878


You’ll love Venezuela, you socialist swine. I have no problem with him grabbing every penny he can get. I’m certainly not going to buy his “there’s no other place I wanted to play bullpoop” and I won’t cry if they improved the team by moving him.

It’s a business.
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