No one has mentioned that if the Sabres make this deal they will have a center they are paying for 8 million that Cozens will hopefully bump to number 3 within a couple of years of his 5-year contract.

I mean I am all for a 3 line scoring team and I do not want to hear about making Cozens a winger. But, 3rd line center 8 mil?

Fans should be doing backflips if we get a center of RyJo's caliber. That's the absolute ceiling of what we'll get. Not only that, it's what we need. A pass-first 2C for Skinner
- jcragcrumple

I get people don't like the contract

but that is why your going to get him for 60 cents on the dollar if they trade him


then again we probably are getting lean, I mean they cut money from the alumni over the winter of the bills and sabres, before covid

which makes sense based on the athletic article after the bills season

the simpletons is for everyone that thinks we don't need a vet scoring center in his prime and producing at a .84 ppg rate in the playoffs


once the preds got duchene, there was going to be a drop off on johanson


pretty sure everyone would agree on that, I mean if we got mcdavid for the first line, there would be a drop in eichels points


everyone is so fixed on the dropping of his points this year, the tree, that they can't see the forest, the team


a dman runs away as their point leader

and three lines are rolled almost evenly

I assume you have no problem with him getting 4 points in the 3 playoff games, esp since it's more then most of the players on our roster combined
- homiedclown

If Johansen can’t produce in a defensive system with Duchene at 1C,
what’s so different being stuck behind Eichel in a defensive system here?

We’d have to roll 3 lines here too
The 2 scoring lines, & a defensive line
Bc u wouldn’t want RyJo or Jack in those defensive spots

I get people don't like the contract

but that is why your going to get him for 60 cents on the dollar if they trade him


then again we probably are getting lean, I mean they cut money from the alumni over the winter of the bills and sabres, before covid

which makes sense based on the athletic article after the bills season
- homiedclown

What do u think we’d get him for?

If Johansen can’t produce in a defensive system with Duchene at 1C,
what’s so different being stuck behind Eichel in a defensive system here?

We’d have to roll 3 lines here too
The 2 scoring lines, & a defensive line
Bc u wouldn’t want RyJo or Jack in those defensive spots
- jdfitz77

the way the owners change direction of the team every 700 days, no clue what will really happen

I still expect the worst

I mean last week the big news that leaked was the jerseys being revealed next week

No one has mentioned that if the Sabres make this deal they will have a center they are paying for 8 million that Cozens will hopefully bump to number 3 within a couple of years of his 5-year contract.

I mean I am all for a 3 line scoring team and I do not want to hear about making Cozens a winger. But, 3rd line center 8 mil?
- GilPerreault11

Another good point

And if he can’t produce as a 2C behind Duchene
How’s he gonna produce as a 3C behind Jack & Cozens???

the way the owners change direction of the team every 700 days, no clue what will really happen

I still expect the worst

I mean last week the big news that leaked was the jerseys being revealed next week
- homiedclown

Cool, but let’s stay on topic... shall we?

Please answer how he’d produce stuck behind Jack when he didn’t behind Duchene?

What do u think we’d get him for?
- jdfitz77

marcus and miller


or montour straight up

No one has mentioned that if the Sabres make this deal they will have a center they are paying for 8 million that Cozens will hopefully bump to number 3 within a couple of years of his 5-year contract.

I mean I am all for a 3 line scoring team and I do not want to hear about making Cozens a winger. But, 3rd line center 8 mil?
- GilPerreault11

For the sake of the argument, take my proposal of Mitts, 2021 first and Okposo for Ryjo and a prospect

Okposo for 3 more years at $6 on the 4th line

Or

RyJo for $8 for 5 years on the 2nd line

The Sabres cup window should be open now if they can fill the goddamn 2C void.

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansen-Mojo
Kahun-Cozens-Tage

That's a top-9 you can win with. And you lost nothing from the roster

Cool
Now answer how he’d produce stuck behind Jack when he didn’t behind Duchene?
- jdfitz77

he'd have a 40 goal scorer on his wing


he is a huge upgrade for second team pp

he'd probably have casey or cozens on his RW, so between him and skinner, the kid would have vets to pick him up


assistant captain for preds

marcus and miller


or montour straight up
- homiedclown

No way they’d do the 1st

I’d listen for Montour straight up,
but that would still surprise me

And at the end of the day,
you’re taking a risk on an $8mil player with effort & attitude issues coming off a terrible season

For the sake of the argument, take my proposal of Mitts, 2021 first and Okposo for Ryjo and a prospect

Okposo for 3 more years at $6 on the 4th line

Or

RyJo for $8 for 5 years on the 2nd line

The Sabres cup window should be open now if they can fill the goddamn 2C void.

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansen-Mojo
Kahun-Cozens-Tage

That's a top-9 you can win with. And you lost nothing from the roster
- jcragcrumple

Now make one without Okposo...
bc they aren’t gonna take him back

he'd have a 40 goal scorer on his wing


he is a huge upgrade for second team pp

he'd probably have casey or cozens on his RW, so between him and skinner, the kid would have vets to pick him up


assistant captain for preds
- homiedclown

Played with good wingers in NSH this season too
Skinner isn’t significantly better than Arvidsson & Forsberg... 2 of his 3 most popular linemates


And how’s he gonna score more on our PP2,
than on NSH PP1???
Huh???

Now make one without Okposo...
bc they aren’t gonna take him back
- jdfitz77

Debatable. I think the 1st makes it very realistic for them to take Okposo

But Ok...

Mitts and Montour for Ryjo and Tolvanen

Played with good wingers in NSH this season too
Skinner isn’t significantly better than Arvidsson & Forsberg... 2 of his 3 most popular linemates


And how’s he gonna score more on our PP2,
than on NSH PP1???
Huh???
- jdfitz77

let's just tank for the 2021 draft



and then eichel is a goner


and then when the seats are empty the team is moved

For the sake of the argument, take my proposal of Mitts, 2021 first and Okposo for Ryjo and a prospect

Okposo for 3 more years at $6 on the 4th line

Or

RyJo for $8 for 5 years on the 2nd line

The Sabres cup window should be open now if they can fill the goddamn 2C void.

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Johansen-Mojo
Kahun-Cozens-Tage

That's a top-9 you can win with. And you lost nothing from the roster
- jcragcrumple

Man I cringe when it comes to giving up top 8 picks in strong drafts like this one. By the way, that prospect they would get is just about ready to play so he would be somewhere in the lineup I think. But, I think it would cost something like the 1st for them to take Okposo.

No way they’d do the 1st


- jdfitz77

if he is a bad contract, like you say, they most certainly would do that

frees up 8 mil in cap 12 months from now

gives them 2 rentals to trade at deadline if they have a bad 20-21 season


if he is half as bad as you say he is, maybe a blah prospect or a 4th rd pick would need to be added, but not much more



would you move okposo for 2 guys coming off the books in a year?

if he is a bad contract, like you say, they most certainly would do that

frees up 8 mil in cap 12 months from now

gives them 2 rentals to trade at deadline if they have a bad 20-21 season


if he is half as bad as you say he is, maybe a blah prospect or a 4th rd pick would need to be added, but not much more



would you move okposo for 2 guys coming off the books in a year?
- homiedclown

There's no point in engaging him on the topic.

He doesn't like Johansen and he's going to keep moving the goalposts.

Bottom line is that caliber of player is probably the best the Sabres will do

There's no point in engaging him on the topic.

He doesn't like Johansen and he's going to keep moving the goalposts.

Bottom line is that caliber of player is probably the best the Sabres will do
- jcragcrumple

it's him or henrique


or going lean

Debatable. I think the 1st makes it very realistic for them to take Okposo

But Ok...

Mitts and Montour for Ryjo and Tolvanen
- jcragcrumple

You’ve got my attn
And i hear what you’re saying about RyJo with Skinner
You could be right that it would work
But i don’t like a guy coming off such a crap season with effort & attitude issues
And u gotta admit that contract is a killer if he doesn’t work out

Just don’t think it’s worth the risk
Not when we could just draft Rossi/Holtz
And say trade Tage/Asplund for Bonino

let's just tank for the 2021 draft



and then eichel is a goner


and then when the seats are empty the team is moved
- homiedclown

Interesting how u went to an extreme that i never even implied instead of just answering a simple question

The Sabres need to get a little gritty in their forward lineup, not goons but ones who don't play on the periphery, a few Colombus type players for if/when they make the playoffs.

if he is a bad contract, like you say, they most certainly would do that

frees up 8 mil in cap 12 months from now

gives them 2 rentals to trade at deadline if they have a bad 20-21 season


if he is half as bad as you say he is, maybe a blah prospect or a 4th rd pick would need to be added, but not much more



would you move okposo for 2 guys coming off the books in a year?
- homiedclown

He’s obviously not as bad as Okposo
Comparing a top6 Center & a 4th line RW is crazy

There's no point in engaging him on the topic.

He doesn't like Johansen and he's going to keep moving the goalposts.

Bottom line is that caliber of player is probably the best the Sabres will do
- jcragcrumple

How am i doing that?

U claim he’ll have a good season here bc he’s with Skinner
But won’t explain his bad season this year with good linemates

There’s a very direct comparison there

it's him or henrique


or going lean
- homiedclown

I like ryjo. He’s a true 2c. But I don’t like the contract. Preds either need to hold a lil celery or concussed Larry needs to be moved. Or even just moving concussed Larry.

I don’t mind Henrique either. Would also be a good stop gap....

I just wish Adams had a bit more experience around him... I guess we will see