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Ogilthorpe2
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Aug 8 @ 8:23 AM ET
You never do let facts get in the way of...uhhh...your agenda, do you?
- StLBravesFan

His trolling agenda?
StLBravesFan
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Aug 8 @ 8:35 AM ET
His trolling agenda?
- Ogilthorpe2

I don’t think he’s a troll - just blinded by his agenda.
StLBravesFan
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Aug 8 @ 8:50 AM ET
In a “The Athletic” article about the Kraken hiring the first Black broadcaster in the league, the article noted that “the Kraken stated that 54 percent of their executive vice presidents were women”.

Congratulations to the newest NHL franchise for its diversity efforts, but if you have so many executive Vice Presidents that you can percentage off 54% of them - you may be slightly top heavy in that area.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 8 @ 8:57 AM ET
Watching Toews dominate this series and show the boys (97 & 29) how men play hockey in warm weather season was absolutely beautiful. I think the Hawks have a better shot of beating the Avs given their more open style of play.
- EnzoD




Hi Edzo.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 8 @ 9:04 AM ET
You never do let facts get in the way of...uhhh...your agenda, do you?
- StLBravesFan



It's not a agenda , your using a old talking point . Have you bothered to look up both goalies stats?

I'm sure you haven't based on your talking point. Also I'm not sure if you watched any games but if you did I'm sure you would have seen just how much lehner robbed my teams and truly even had the announcers talking about how lehner play was lights out incredibly great.


Sure Crawford was a great goalie but at 36 years old having 2 concussions and missing almost 2 seasons , is understanding that he won't be the crawford of the past, what's so hard for people to come to the realization that players get old and lose their sharpness and decline.

Last night's game was a much improved game he played , however he and this team need to raise their level of play. Last night's 3rd period chicago was hard to watch at times , if chicago sits back and plays that way going forward a good team will make them pay. Like chicago did in 2013 to Boston when Boston was up and chicago kept coming.

StLBravesFan
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Aug 8 @ 9:04 AM ET
As Lazarus pointed out this morning in The Athletic - besides giving playoff experience to the young skaters - the RTP is also giving playoff experience to Colliton.

Since he apparently is going to be the head coach going forward, let’s hope he, too, can learn from this experience.
StLBravesFan
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Aug 8 @ 9:06 AM ET
It's not a agenda , your using a old talking point . Have you bothered to look up both goalies stats?

I'm sure you haven't based on your talking point. Also I'm not sure if you watched any games but if you did I'm sure you would have seen just how much lehner robbed my teams and truly even had the announcers talking about how lehner play was lights out incredibly great.


Sure Crawford was a great goalie but at 36 years old having 2 concussions and missing almost 2 seasons , is understanding that he won't be the crawford of the past, what's so hard for people to come to the realization that players get old and lose their sharpness and decline.

Last night's game was a much improved game he played , however he and this team need to raise their level of play. Last night's 3rd period chicago was hard to watch at times , if chicago sits back and plays that way going forward a good team will make them pay. Like chicago did in 2013 to Boston when Boston was up and chicago kept coming.

- Taylorst1


Hey, star, I’ve posted stats about this twice in the past week or 10 days.

Either you can’t read or you refuse to read opposing views.

Look it up....
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 8 @ 9:08 AM ET
His trolling agenda?
- Ogilthorpe2



Your talking point is getting old. I'm happy to debate you on the facts which clearly your overlooking here. We are all hawks fans , I'm just not willing to let my bias of the team unlike get in the way of facts and reality.

Angotti
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Aug 8 @ 9:11 AM ET
You don't think Vegas would start extra-motivated Lehner in potential series with the Hawks? Can’t wait for this story to develop
- stonefire

If the Hawks end up playing Vegas, then I would love for Lehner to man the net. He’s a finger pointing self centered individual and not a team player, JMHO.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 8 @ 9:11 AM ET
Hey, star, I’ve posted stats about this twice in the past week or 10 days.

Either you can’t read or you refuse to read opposing views.

Look it up....

- StLBravesFan


You said it right their we have opposing views, but you haven't answered the question who has the better stats .? If you looked up each players stats your answer would be lehner not crawford. You said I'm not using facts , well I called you out on trying to somehow rewrite those little known things called stats .

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:13 AM ET
Watching Toews dominate this series and show the boys (97 & 29) how men play hockey in warm weather season was absolutely beautiful. I think the Hawks have a better shot of beating the Avs given their more open style of play.
- EnzoD

Do you mean Toews the washed up, overpaid third liner?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 8 @ 9:14 AM ET
It's not a agenda , your using a old talking point . Have you bothered to look up both goalies stats?

I'm sure you haven't based on your talking point. Also I'm not sure if you watched any games but if you did I'm sure you would have seen just how much lehner robbed my teams and truly even had the announcers talking about how lehner play was lights out incredibly great.


Sure Crawford was a great goalie but at 36 years old having 2 concussions and missing almost 2 seasons , is understanding that he won't be the crawford of the past, what's so hard for people to come to the realization that players get old and lose their sharpness and decline.

Last night's game was a much improved game he played , however he and this team need to raise their level of play. Last night's 3rd period chicago was hard to watch at times , if chicago sits back and plays that way going forward a good team will make them pay. Like chicago did in 2013 to Boston when Boston was up and chicago kept coming.

- Taylorst1


In regular season play here are Lehner's and Crow's stats...

Lehner 33GP - 16 W vs 10 L vs 5 OTL - GAA/G 3.01 - Sv% - .918

Crow 40 GP - 16W vs 20 L vs 3 OTL - GAA/G 2.77 - Sv% - .917

Now that it's right there in front of me in b+w, it is also clear to me that Lehner vastly outplayed CC and that Crow is completely washed up. (RF)
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 8 @ 9:16 AM ET
Watching Toews dominate this series and show the boys (97 & 29) how men play hockey in warm weather season was absolutely beautiful. I think the Hawks have a better shot of beating the Avs given their more open style of play.
- EnzoD


Id rather take my chances going up against a goal tender who's only won 1 playoff series. Goober is just another AHL goalie if the Hawks are able to rattle his cage it'll be a great series.
Ogilthorpe2
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Aug 8 @ 9:16 AM ET
It's not a agenda , your using a old talking point . Have you bothered to look up both goalies stats?

I'm sure you haven't based on your talking point. Also I'm not sure if you watched any games but if you did I'm sure you would have seen just how much lehner robbed my teams and truly even had the announcers talking about how lehner play was lights out incredibly great.


Sure Crawford was a great goalie but at 36 years old having 2 concussions and missing almost 2 seasons , is understanding that he won't be the crawford of the past, what's so hard for people to come to the realization that players get old and lose their sharpness and decline.

Last night's game was a much improved game he played , however he and this team need to raise their level of play. Last night's 3rd period chicago was hard to watch at times , if chicago sits back and plays that way going forward a good team will make them pay. Like chicago did in 2013 to Boston when Boston was up and chicago kept coming.

- Taylorst1

Crawford > Lehner, and it’s not even close. Lehner is big, that’s his best quality, but he’s also a d-bag...so there’s that.

Angotti
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Aug 8 @ 9:20 AM ET
In regular season play here are Lehner's and Crow's stats...

Lehner 33GP - 16 W vs 10 L vs 5 OTL - GAA/G 3.01 - Sv% - .918

Crow 40 GP - 16W vs 20 L vs 3 OTL - GAA/G 2.77 - Sv% - .917

Now that it's right there in front of me in b+w, it is also clear to me that Lehner vastly outplayed CC and that Crow is completely washed up. (RF)

- HawkintheD

Why let facts get in the way here, I think he’s referring to the first ten games of the season, you have way too many data points here.
Chief4Feathers
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Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:24 AM ET
I don’t think he’s a troll - just blinded by his agenda.
- StLBravesFan


Yes, more a contrarian than a troll...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:24 AM ET
Damn... Vancouver scores 11 seconds into OT to eliminate the Wild.
- DarthKane


pens, preds, wild, oil, rangers, panthers, jets = gone...

you wonder if rinne is moved or calls it quits; does lundquist get moved..maybe tough with that contract


BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 8 @ 9:26 AM ET
It's pretty wild to me that as the playoffs started Dach elevated his play to be the team's 2nd line center. I love seeing Highmore and Dach occupying space in front of the goalie.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Aug 8 @ 9:26 AM ET
Is this upcoming round, best of 7 or still 5?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:27 AM ET
AdB played well - mostly - I think he needs to be more goal-conscious, but his overall game is much better and when he gets his scoring touch back....

I thought the only young first-timer who looked like he didn’t belong yet was Boqvist. Too much “wrong place - wrong time”, passive....

- StLBravesFan


i mostly agree with you on ADB...he is not doing anything negative to hurt the team but that boarding call could have burried the hawks...he not doing much of anything positive...just seems like "another guy" out there...he needs to be alot better..
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:27 AM ET
Crawford > Lehner, and it’s not even close. Lehner is big, that’s his best quality, but he’s also a d-bag...so there’s that.
- Ogilthorpe2


Lehner has a clinically diagnosed bipolar disorder - so I say we should give him some deference on any character assessment.

He’s a good goalie - but I’d rather have Crawford in net - particularly in a breakaway/shootout situation.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 8 @ 9:28 AM ET
In regular season play here are Lehner's and Crow's stats...

Lehner 33GP - 16 W vs 10 L vs 5 OTL - GAA/G 3.01 - Sv% - .918

Crow 40 GP - 16W vs 20 L vs 3 OTL - GAA/G 2.77 - Sv% - .917

Now that it's right there in front of me in b+w, it is also clear to me that Lehner vastly outplayed CC and that Crow is completely washed up. (RF)

- HawkintheD


As the series went on Crow understood their game plan was to go low high then low again and try to tuck the puck near post behind him and was very fluid anticipating it.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Aug 8 @ 9:29 AM ET
It's pretty wild to me that as the playoffs started Dach elevated his play to be the team's 2nd line center. I love seeing Highmore and Dach occupying space in front of the goalie.
- BetweenTheDots[/quote
Dach in my opinion was the 2nd best Hawks forward in the series after the Captain. Kane hasn’t exactly got things going yet, that is why I think the next round could be really interesting for the Hawks.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:29 AM ET
You never do let facts get in the way of...uhhh...your agenda, do you?
- StLBravesFan


craw struggled early in the fall and lehner picked him up...but the last two months prior to the shutdown craw was as good as ever...
Chief4Feathers
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Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:30 AM ET
i mostly agree with you on ADB...he is not doing anything negative to hurt the team but that boarding call could have burried the hawks...he not doing much of anything positive...just seems like "another guy" out there...he needs to be alot better..
- bogiedoc


I thought that boarding call was the end of the game too. But then Nurse was dumb and the Drake duped him into a bad penalty. Saved our bacon.
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