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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 7 @ 4:30 PM ET
If you get the number one... you don't trade it IMO.
- Tyler Cameron


This.

(Then you hope Lafreniere is a McDavid or MacKinnon type and not a Yakupov type.)
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
Listen, I like Strome for what he is right now and I think he can get better.

He's still just 23 years old.

However, the Hawks can play hard ball a bit now with the emergence of Dach.

Personally, I would sign him to a 2-year deal... no more than that because then he and Dach come up at the same time.

If you can convince Strome to take a 2 year, 3M AAV deal, you do it. I just think as much as Strome likes it in CHI with his bestie DeBrincat, his agent won't let him make a deal like that.

I suspect they are looking for $4M+ AAV.

- Tyler Cameron




I agree if your going to not give up on him you cant resign him to anything more than 3.5 million tops.

But do not include nmc in his contract.

We should expect some serious changes to their teams makeup come next year.

Maatta
Shaw
Seabrook
Slater
Drake
Nylander
Crawford
Saad

That's my list of players that you either trade or don't resign.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Aug 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
I agree if your going to not give up on him you cant resign him to anything more than 3.5 million tops.

But do not include nmc in his contract.

We should expect some serious changes to their teams makeup come next year.

Maatta
Shaw
Seabrook
Slater
Drake
Nylander
Crawford
Saad

That's my list of players that you either trade or don't resign.

- Taylorst1


Want them to hang on to Zach Smith?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
I agree if your going to not give up on him you cant resign him to anything more than 3.5 million tops.

But do not include nmc in his contract.

We should expect some serious changes to their teams makeup come next year.

Maatta
Shaw
Seabrook
Slater
Drake
Nylander
Crawford
Saad

That's my list of players that you either trade or don't resign.

- Taylorst1


And who do you get back in trade, or promote from the Rock?
jrsamu
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 11.07.2014

Aug 7 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'm a believer that if you try to control destiny things have a tendency to backfire on you. Play to win, if you win this series great if you don't, have a chance at picking 1st or in the top 3rd of the league. Many wanted them to tank last year and they played well and ended up with the 3rd pick in the draft, so play to win baby, even though i didn't think they deserved to win game 3, i cheered every time i saw the back of the net move in the 3rd period.
- BetweenTheDots


This. +1.


DrewDawg
Joined: 05.10.2016

Aug 7 @ 4:53 PM ET
So is it too early to start the Dale Tallon to Chicago rumor lol
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 7 @ 4:55 PM ET
And who do you get back in trade, or promote from the Rock?
- LAHawk


Don’t bog him down with details... he’s an idea man.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 7 @ 4:58 PM ET
Dylan Strome is only 23. He has played 164 games in the NHL. .

Can you think of other Hawk or former Hawk forwards that showed dramatic improvement after playing 164 games in the NHL. There are not many. Danault comes to mind and he is in reality a 2C/3C 50 point player on a good team (like Strome). Danault is on a 3 year deal at $3.1 mil. I think that is about right for Strome.

I am ok with holding on to Nylander and re-upping Strome. But I think they pretty much are what they are going to be. So I would not over value either of them.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Aug 7 @ 4:58 PM ET
This.

(Then you hope Lafreniere is a McDavid or MacKinnon type and not a Yakupov type.)

- -Doh-


Yakupov was a one-trick pony. Lafreniere has the whole toolbox.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
Panthers, Jets, Rangers out...(any more???)....

We out-lasted 3 teams, at least!!!!!!!

- hawk35

Preds close to out.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Aug 7 @ 5:01 PM ET
Call me a heretic but I'd be happier seeing Strome and Nylander score goals than seeing the Hawks win the game. I know it won't silence the critics for long, but a momentary respite would be nice.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Aug 7 @ 5:04 PM ET
So Dale Tallon is getting fired?
- PatShart


You don't fire the greatest builder of all time.............



No matter what the facts are
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 7 @ 5:05 PM ET
Press close to out.
- StLBravesFan

But not yet....
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Aug 7 @ 5:06 PM ET
As far as Strome is concerned, Artem Anisimov has made a pretty decent living being a slow footed centerman that has difficulty winning face offs.

Also with the Isle moving on, their 1st RD pick goes to Ottawa for the Pageau trade. OTT now has 3 - 1st round picks in 2020.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 7 @ 5:06 PM ET
Call me a heretic but I'd be happier seeing Strome and Nylander score goals than seeing the Hawks win the game. I know it won't silence the critics for long, but a momentary respite would be nice.
- EbonyRaptor


Well, if those two are scoring goals, they probably are winning so its a win-win!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Aug 7 @ 5:06 PM ET
Hammer with the fail to clear and give Nash life
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Aug 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
Now Nashville bites the dust.

FOUR teams gone....we are still alive!!!!

Oops, spoke too fast. Preds score in last 30 seconds....Going to OT.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
Dylan Strome is only 23. He has played 164 games in the NHL. .

Can you think of other Hawk or former Hawk forwards that showed dramatic improvement after playing 164 games in the NHL. There are not many. Danault comes to mind and he is in reality a 2C/3C 50 point player on a good team (like Strome). Danault is on a 3 year deal at $3.1 mil. I think that is about right for Strome.

I am ok with holding on to Nylander and re-upping Strome. But I think they pretty much are what they are going to be. So I would not over value either of them.

- -Doh-


Yep, @$3M seems about right for Strome - he’s a 3C on this roster.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 7 @ 5:08 PM ET
Now Nashville bites the dust.

FOUR teams gone....we are still alive!!!!

Oops, spoke too fast. Preds score in last 30 seconds....Going to OT.

- hawk35


McCann predicted the Hawks would be swept. Thus proving yet again, that McCann can suck it.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 7 @ 5:09 PM ET
As for whether to get a top 10 draft pick or get swagger back by succeeding in the post season, I prefer the latter.

For one thing, I will always cheer for the Blackhawks to win no matter what.

Another thing is the 1st round is still pretty deep in the teens and 20s if the Hawks drop that far. I wouldn't mind Zary or Amirov at all.

One way to look at is whether it's better to have an elite prospect + a mini boost in team swagger or a really good prospect + a huge boost in team swagger?

Again, I prefer the latter.

- AEL_Fox

marat khusnutdinov. Goes against my Russian bias but check out his videos.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Aug 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
As far as Strome is concerned, Artem Anisimov has made a pretty decent living being a slow footed centerman that has difficulty winning face offs.

Also with the Isle moving on, their 1st RD pick goes to Ottawa for the Pageau trade. OTT now has 3 - 1st round picks in 2020.

- Rota's Rooter


#3, #5, and now what is the third 1st round pick?
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Aug 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
#3, #5, and now what is the third 1st round pick?
- Chief4Feathers

It's the Isle's pick so as far as they go. 17-31 I'd guess.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 7 @ 5:19 PM ET
Not rooting against them, however.....

Landing the #1 then:

1. Trading it to Ott for 3 @5....

2. Trading it to Ott for 3 and Tkachuk....

3. Trading it to Ott for 5 and Tkachuk....

#1 overall would get 2 pieces for this current group......

- mike7076

Except Ottawa isn't doing any of those and you would be passing up the best player in this draft at a position of need.

Now if the Kings wanted to throw another pick to move up for Lefreniere, Byfield is a nice consolation prize and would give the Hawks some serious size down the middle.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
Want them to hang on to Zach Smith?πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
- PatShart

He also thinks they are going to be able to move Seabrook and Shaw.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Aug 7 @ 5:22 PM ET
Is Strome the new Anisimov? Kinda feels that way, right?
- Chief4Feathers

Nope. AA is far better defensively. Strome is better offensively and AA can skate circles around Strome.
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