I know Ehlers spent some time with Scheifele this season but he didn't spend it all with him and he had a pretty good season just the same, his even strength point totals were amongst some of the top players in the league.
Copp's not a 2C, funny that anyone would even argue it really, if this team hadn't lost Little they're probably sitting in Dallas's position right now and if they had a better 3C that could step in the 2nd line center job they're likely still in that position with the seasons Ehlers, Laine and Connor had, one slightly better center option would of made a big difference, like I said in my original post, this organization needs more 2/3C's and less 3/4C's.
- JetFuel

Both Andrew Copp and Adam Lowry have been better players than Bryan Little for the last 3 seasons in a row. Fairly certain both had a higher rate of production than Little in that time, as well

The confusing thing is you writing off both players even though they’re clearly outperforming their roles, while also ignoring information, and being hilariously dead set against even TRYING either player in an elevated role

Both Andrew Copp and Adam Lowry have been better players than Bryan Little for the last 3 seasons in a row. Fairly certain both had a higher rate of production than Little in that time, as well

The confusing thing is you writing off both players even though they’re clearly outperforming their roles, while also ignoring information, and being hilariously dead set against even TRYING either player in an elevated role
- Rexypoo

Have you seen Lowry's advanced stats?

You haven’t said anything here.
-I don’t care what a Wild fan says vs the actual results.
-Copp has produced every time he’s been given elevated minutes. Breaking down his point totals to say he scored the most on line 3 is pointless. We know that already. That’s where he is 95% of the time.
-Lowry is actually pretty good offensively when he has a shooter to feed. You know, like we literally just saw with Harkins.
- Rexypoo

K so I guess you watched every game Granlund has played then, cool, we'll see where he ends up, I doubt he'll be playing center but time will tell I guess.

If Copp produced like a 2C the Jets are sitting where Dallas is now.

Lowry is a 4th line plug, I question if he could break 40 points if he had Patrick Kane and Kucherov on his wings. You love the guy, I get it, sorry I triggered you, that really wasn't my intention with my original comment, just giving my opinon of what's wrong with this team, have a good one.

That’s a funny way of saying you are wrong about Ehlers
- Ross77

Ehlers is the type of player that cannot play with other talented players. He needs to be the focal point of his line. It's all psychological with him. He might be the only talented player to play with Copp and do good. If he is with Laine, Scheifele, Connor, Wheeler, he always looks for the pass. Theoretically he should play on the third line.

Have you seen Lowry's advanced stats?
- TheUltimateJet

For this year? Yeah. Wasn’t great. He will bounce back

Ehlers is the type of player that cannot play with other talented players. He needs to be the focal point of his line. It's all psychological with him. He might be the only talented player to play with Copp and do good. If he is with Laine, Scheifele, Connor, Wheeler, he always looks for the pass. Theoretically he should play on the third line.
- TheUltimateJet

I don’t know how to respond to this

Both Andrew Copp and Adam Lowry have been better players than Bryan Little for the last 3 seasons in a row. Fairly certain both had a higher rate of production than Little in that time, as well

The confusing thing is you writing off both players even though they’re clearly outperforming their roles, while also ignoring information, and being hilariously dead set against even TRYING either player in an elevated role
- Rexypoo

Neither are close to the player Little was and neither have been nearly as productive as he was, you're really undervaluing Little.

I'm not writing them off, they've been used in elevated roles for far too long with mediocre results, they need to be utilized in the roles their skills are suited for.

K so I guess you watched every game Granlund has played then, cool, we'll see where he ends up, I doubt he'll be playing center but time will tell I guess.

If Copp produced like a 2C the Jets are sitting where Dallas is now.

Lowry is a 4th line plug, I question if he could break 40 points if he had Patrick Kane and Kucherov on his wings. You love the guy, I get it, sorry I triggered you, that really wasn't my intention with my original comment, just giving my opinon of what's wrong with this team, have a good one.
- JetFuel

Have you watched any Granlund games? Again. Do not care about the eye test of casual fans. I care about results.

You obviously don’t, given literally all of what you just said

Ehlers is the type of player that cannot play with other talented players. He needs to be the focal point of his line. It's all psychological with him. He might be the only talented player to play with Copp and do good. If he is with Laine, Scheifele, Connor, Wheeler, he always looks for the pass. Theoretically he should play on the third line.
- TheUltimateJet

Lol now you’re just making up nonsense

Ehlers is the type of player that cannot play with other talented players. He needs to be the focal point of his line. It's all psychological with him. He might be the only talented player to play with Copp and do good. If he is with Laine, Scheifele, Connor, Wheeler, he always looks for the pass. Theoretically he should play on the third line.
- TheUltimateJet

Very much disagree, Ehlers plays well with everyone.

Neither are close to the player Little was and neither have been nearly as productive as he was, you're really undervaluing Little.

I'm not writing them off, they've been used in elevated roles for far too long with mediocre results, they need to be utilized in the roles their skills are suited for.
- JetFuel

No. I’m not. Little has not been the same since Stralman oof’d his spine.

Little has not been in any way productive for a long while

Have you watched any Granlund games? Again. Do not care about the eye test of casual fans. I care about results.

You obviously don’t, given literally all of what you just said
- Rexypoo

Yes I have, every game I've watched Granlund play he was on the wing.
I don't dislike Granlund, just not sure he's the answer for the 2C job.

Yes I have, every game I've watched Granlund play he was on the wing.
I don't dislike Granlund, just not sure he's the answer for the 2C job.
- JetFuel

*Not Sure*, unwilling to try

Lol now you’re just making up nonsense
- Rexypoo

Which part?

For this year? Yeah. Wasn’t great. He will bounce back
- Rexypoo

I have been waiting for 3 years, they get worse every year!

Which part?
- TheUltimateJet

Ehlers fits with everyone

No. I’m not. Little has not been the same since Stralman oof’d his spine.

Little has not been in any way productive for a long while
- Rexypoo

You dislike Little, I think he's a good player, Lowry isn't my favorite, you love the guy, it's all good Rexy, don't think we need to debate it anymore.. Lol

Very much disagree, Ehlers plays well with everyone.
- JetFuel

Played way better with Scheifele and Wheeler. Even had a line named Schweelers after his work on it.

One thing is for certain, played better without Laine.

Lack of organizational depth at Center and that falls on Chevy.

Here’s how I see Copp and Lowry, it’s not how much offense they put up that matters, it’s how much they outscore their opponents. The goal in hockey is to win, it doesn’t matter if you win 2-1 or 7-6. Now Connor-Shiefele-Wheeler got outscored by their opponents all year! Yes they all put up points, but as a line they helped us lose more than win, where Copp and Lowry help you win. So what’s more important ? Winning hockey games and being a playoff team or having multiple players in the top 20 scoring leaders but being outside the playoffs?
- Ross77

Playoff teams usually have a more productive 3C then Lowry and a more productive bottom 6 then the Jets, I don't hate either player just think they're not used properly, neither player is the problem themselves but how they're utilized is part of the problem imo.

You dislike Little, I think he's a good player, Lowry isn't my favorite, you love the guy, it's all good Rexy, don't think we need to debate it anymore.. Lol
- JetFuel

I don’t dislike Little. I rather like Bryan Little. He was a first line center in his prime. Honestly, my biggest disappointment about this season is Little having his strongest start in years, only to now likely have to retire.

Played way better with Scheifele and Wheeler. Even had a line named Schweelers after his work on it.

One thing is for certain, played better without Laine.
- TheUltimateJet

Different Wheeler than the one we have now. Ehlers would be the best player on that line in 2020

Lack of organizational depth at Center and that falls on Chevy.
- bennythehat

Scheifele
Copp
Lowry
Perreault
Harkins
Roslovic
Appleton
Gustafsson

All can play centre

Scheifele
Copp
Lowry
Perreault
Harkins
Roslovic
Appleton
Gustafsson

All can play centre
- Rexypoo

Half those guys don't play center anymore, because we have a coach who lives in some bizarro world that a center in the minors has to begin their pro career on the wing.

Scheifele
Copp
Lowry
Perreault
Harkins
Roslovic
Appleton
Gustafsson

All can play centre
- Rexypoo

There’s no #2 center in that list. I am sure you will disagree.