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TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:04 PM ET
Different Wheeler than the one we have now. Ehlers would be the best player on that line in 2020
- Rexypoo

If Ehlers is the best player, than he does not need Scheifele either.

Again, why is Laine with Scheifele on every single line combination you suggest?
wmathe
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.29.2017

Aug 9 @ 9:05 PM ET
There’s no #2 center in that list. I am sure you will disagree.
- bennythehat

There could be a 2C in Roslovic or Copp, but based on the coach and the players around the top 6 none have shown the ability to fit in. We know the top line will not get broken up next year, so that leaves finding someone for Ehlers and Liane. I think best bet to fill that is trade. Not much available for long term in FA. Chevy must make a trade for a RFA who has been solid from a team who has cap issues. That is our only options at this time.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
Ehlers should be #2 center!!! I mentioned this last year and it holds true today!!!

His off season homework should be to watch game tape on Couturier and Patrice B.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 9:17 PM ET
Lines to start training camp with existing players.

Harkins-Shiefele-Laine
Connor-ehlers-Roslovic
Copp-lowry-Wheeler (Time to accept he is no longer a top line player)
Vesalainen-Gustafsson-Appleton

You are welcome!!! Lol
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
Ehlers should be #2 center!!! I mentioned this last year and it holds true today!!!

His off season homework should be to watch game tape on Couturier and Patrice B.

- Ross77

You also said he would be a 50/50 guy playing with McDavid last year. I think we should trade him for Draisatl because apparently it's pretty easy being a 50/50 guy playing wing with McDavid.

That will definitely solve our Center problem.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:19 PM ET
Lines to start training camp with existing players.

Harkins-Shiefele-Laine
Connor-ehlers-Roslovic
Copp-lowry-Wheeler (Time to accept he is no longer a top line player)
Vesalainen-Gustafsson-Appleton

You are welcome!!! Lol

- Ross77

Again, Why does Laine have to be with Scheifele? I thought he was the major play driver for us!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 9 @ 9:29 PM ET
There could be a 2C in Roslovic or Copp, but based on the coach and the players around the top 6 none have shown the ability to fit in. We know the top line will not get broken up next year, so that leaves finding someone for Ehlers and Liane. I think best bet to fill that is trade. Not much available for long term in FA. Chevy must make a trade for a RFA who has been solid from a team who has cap issues. That is our only options at this time.
- wmathe


RFA centers this offseason are:
Ryan Strome NYR
Dylan Strome CHI
Max Domi MTL
Chris Tierney OTT
Anthony Cirelli TBL

Some of those guys are more of 3C's, that's about the only RFA centers that I can see that might be capable of being a 2C, I know many are high on Cirelli but I can't see Tampa dealing him. I'd be wary of either of the Strome boys fitting with the Jets and Tierney is more of a 3C, not sure if Domi is on the block but there's rumors and he's been on their 4th line, perhaps he's an option.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Again, Why does Laine have to be with Scheifele? I thought he was the major play driver for us!
- TheUltimateJet

Go back and read, this was explained to you already.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:37 PM ET
Go back and read, this was explained to you already.
- Ross77

I did not really understand that explanation. If Copp is like Backstrom than that means he should have elite level playmaking ability like Crosby, Malkin and what not. Why is Laine not paired with him? I am sure that Copp can make that seem pass just like Backstrom.

Copp and Laine is like Hull and Oates way better then Backstrom and Ovechkin.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 9:45 PM ET
I did not really understand that explanation. If Copp is like Backstrom than that means he should have elite level playmaking ability like Crosby, Malkin and what not. Why is Laine not paired with him? I am sure that Copp can make that seem pass just like Backstrom.

Copp and Laine is like Hull and Oates way better then Backstrom and Ovechkin.

- TheUltimateJet


You do know that Ehlers-Copp-Laine had far superior Anylitics And overall results to connor-sheif-wheels at even strength right? You know that right?

But let’s see how you spin this with another completely off topic question/response

TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
You do know that Ehlers-Copp-Laine had far superior Anylitics And overall results to connor-sheif-wheels at even strength right? You know that right?

But let’s see how you spin this with another completely off topic question/response

- Ross77

If that truly is the case, than stop putting Laine with Scheifele.

You and Rexypoo keep bashing Scheifele, but continue to put Laine with him. What is the reason for that?

I am going to get rid of that old Hull and Oates poster of my bedroom wall. I can't wait for the Copp and Laine posters to come out!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
If that truly is the case, than stop putting Laine with Scheifele.

You and Rexypoo keep bashing Scheifele, but continue to put Laine with him. What is the reason for that?

I am going to get rid of that old Hull and Oates poster of my bedroom wall. I can't wait for the Copp and Laine posters to come out!

- TheUltimateJet


When were we bashing Sheifele?
And why are you so against Laine playing with him?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 10:07 PM ET
When were we bashing Sheifele?
And why are you so against Laine playing with him?

- Ross77

Throughout the entire season you have been!

I am not against Laine playing with Scheifele. I am questioning your belief in Copp. If you and Rexypoo believe he is like Backstrom, why split him from Laine?

Connor and Scheifele have already proven they have great chemistry together and both have the potential to be 40/40 guys playing together. Why split that up? I am not against the Jets having more high powered lines.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
Throughout the entire season you have been!

I am not against Laine playing with Scheifele. I am questioning your belief in Copp. If you and Rexypoo believe he is like Backstrom, why split him from Laine?

Connor and Scheifele have already proven they have great chemistry together and both have the potential to be 40/40 guys playing together. Why split that up? I am not against the Jets having more high powered lines.

- TheUltimateJet


Ok time for break, ultimate making poop up again
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 9 @ 10:43 PM ET
Ok time for break, ultimate making poop up again
- Ross77

Talk about the issues Ross, you have bashed Scheifele all year long. Too bad I don't have access to the old Tessier and and Peters blogs so I can quote you!
wmathe
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.29.2017

Aug 9 @ 10:49 PM ET
RFA centers this offseason are:
Ryan Strome NYR
Dylan Strome CHI
Max Domi MTL
Chris Tierney OTT
Anthony Cirelli TBL

Some of those guys are more of 3C's, that's about the only RFA centers that I can see that might be capable of being a 2C, I know many are high on Cirelli but I can't see Tampa dealing him. I'd be wary of either of the Strome boys fitting with the Jets and Tierney is more of a 3C, not sure if Domi is on the block but there's rumors and he's been on their 4th line, perhaps he's an option.

- JetFuel

That's the only ones I would be looking at also. Teams that have a signed 2C won't be trading them. The FAs are mostly older where the might be alright for 1 year. It might be with taking a shot with a younger player. If it doesn't work move on if it does we found our guy. Worst case is remaining in the same situation. And trying to find a guy. We know what they have now and it isn't enough. Sometimes you gotta take a chance. Especially if Little isn't coming back.

If Little does come back maybe go Conner, Schiefele, Laine and Ehlers, Little, Wheeler since Little and Liane have not been the best combination.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Aug 9 @ 10:57 PM ET
You do know that Ehlers-Copp-Laine had far superior Anylitics And overall results to connor-sheif-wheels at even strength right? You know that right?

But let’s see how you spin this with another completely off topic question/response

- Ross77


According to naturalstattrick Ehlers-Copp-Laine played 2 minutes 48 seconds together last year.
Those 4 shifts together must have impressed you.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 9 @ 11:03 PM ET
If Ehlers is the best player, than he does not need Scheifele either.

Again, why is Laine with Scheifele on every single line combination you suggest?

- TheUltimateJet


Once more, let me say this slowly.

Patrik Laine is your best goal scorer. He has the most lethal shot in the world, and you want him to use it as often as possible. More shots=More goals=More wins.

Now, Mark Scheifele. He is our best playmaker. He creates chances for his wingers, and lots of them. Given he has no competition for the top position at centre, he will always play the biggest minutes.

So, to round up, you want your best playmaker (Scheifele) and your best goal scorer (Laine) to be playing the most minutes (Top Line) so that you may score more goals than the other guys as often as possible (Objective of the game).
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 9 @ 11:03 PM ET
Ehlers should be #2 center!!! I mentioned this last year and it holds true today!!!

His off season homework should be to watch game tape on Couturier and Patrice B.

- Ross77


I’d try it
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 9 @ 11:04 PM ET
RFA centers this offseason are:
Ryan Strome NYR
Dylan Strome CHI
Max Domi MTL
Chris Tierney OTT
Anthony Cirelli TBL

Some of those guys are more of 3C's, that's about the only RFA centers that I can see that might be capable of being a 2C, I know many are high on Cirelli but I can't see Tampa dealing him. I'd be wary of either of the Strome boys fitting with the Jets and Tierney is more of a 3C, not sure if Domi is on the block but there's rumors and he's been on their 4th line, perhaps he's an option.

- JetFuel


Cirelli is an elite player, so that would take some doing.
Everyone else is too much of a one year wonder risk for me
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 9 @ 11:06 PM ET
If that truly is the case, than stop putting Laine with Scheifele.

You and Rexypoo keep bashing Scheifele, but continue to put Laine with him. What is the reason for that?

I am going to get rid of that old Hull and Oates poster of my bedroom wall. I can't wait for the Copp and Laine posters to come out!

- TheUltimateJet


Where did I bash Scheifele? He can’t defend, but he doesn’t have to. He creates more offence than anyone by a mile. I want Laine with him because creator with finisher is good logic
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 9 @ 11:08 PM ET
Throughout the entire season you have been!

I am not against Laine playing with Scheifele. I am questioning your belief in Copp. If you and Rexypoo believe he is like Backstrom, why split him from Laine?

Connor and Scheifele have already proven they have great chemistry together and both have the potential to be 40/40 guys playing together. Why split that up? I am not against the Jets having more high powered lines.

- TheUltimateJet


A: he is a close to similar caliber player to Backstrom, not a player with the same skill set. It’s about overall impact, not Copp being a wizard assist machine. Backstrom isn’t great defensively, Copp is.

B: you split that line up because they are constantly getting out-scored. They both suck defensively, and no single Jet can cover that up on D. So you put them with different people that can actually work to their strengths fully
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 10 @ 12:41 AM ET
That's the only ones I would be looking at also. Teams that have a signed 2C won't be trading them. The FAs are mostly older where the might be alright for 1 year. It might be with taking a shot with a younger player. If it doesn't work move on if it does we found our guy. Worst case is remaining in the same situation. And trying to find a guy. We know what they have now and it isn't enough. Sometimes you gotta take a chance. Especially if Little isn't coming back.

If Little does come back maybe go Conner, Schiefele, Laine and Ehlers, Little, Wheeler since Little and Liane have not been the best combination.

- wmathe


Very much agree and if anything it'd give Maurice something else to work with, maybe giving him another piece to work with he might try another line combo that might produce even if it was the 3rd line and not the 2nd, I'd have more faith in any of those RFA'S then who the Jets currently have been trying at 2C since Little went down, other then Wheeler but he shouldn't be playing center. They gotta take a chance, as long as the ask for any of those guys I listed isn't too outrageous I say pull the damn trigger and get one of them.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 10 @ 12:58 AM ET
Very much agree and if anything it'd give Maurice something else to work with, maybe giving him another piece to work with he might try another line combo that might produce even if it was the 3rd line and not the 2nd, I'd have more faith in any of those RFA'S then who the Jets currently have been trying at 2C since Little went down, other then Wheeler but he shouldn't be playing center. They gotta take a chance, as long as the ask for any of those guys I listed isn't too outrageous I say pull the damn trigger and get one of them.
- JetFuel


Cirelli would instantly turn the forward group around. He’s an RFA in a team backed into a cap corner, and he’s both young and actually elite
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Aug 10 @ 1:32 AM ET
Cirelli would instantly turn the forward group around. He’s an RFA in a team backed into a cap corner, and he’s both young and actually elite
- Rexypoo


No doubt and I know Cirelli has a lot of fans but Tampa always seems to figure out their cap crunch, realistically I see him as the guy they wouldn't move if they're forced to move one of there RFA'S, no one thought Point was signing a team friendly bridge deal but that's exactly what happened, Cirelli could do the same, they are in one hell of a cap crunch though, will be interesting to see how they deal with it.
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