Soooo everyone is a bust if they aren't in the NHL immediately? Gotcha. You'd definitely be the type of GM to make those Chara/Thornton type trades. I guess for Edmonton youdda got rid of that one winger they kept till they couldn't trade him for anything good
- VonDouche

Svechnikov was drafted 5 years ago. Comparing Evgeni Svechnikov to Joe Thornton and Chara. 2 future Hall of famers. Hilarious. Improve your trolling Douche Bag. Pathetic.

So basically any player is a bust if they don't crack the lineup immediately?

Ras and Cholo aren't busts. Not to mention if Hedda used that pick for Chy, I don't follow Coyotes but am confident he isn't an elite DMan, we wouldn't have Hronek who's prolly put up more points in his one season than Chy in all of his.
- VonDouche

You obviously don't follow the Red Wings either.

You obviously don't follow the Red Wings either.
- gergeswillems

Who are the Red Wings again?

Svechnikov was drafted 5 years ago. Comparing Evgeni Svechnikov to Joe Thornton and Chara. 2 future Hall of famers. Hilarious. Improve your trolling Douche Bag. Pathetic.
- gergeswillems

I compared that duud calling kids busts to their GMs trading them right away. Not to mention that I was referring mainly to Zadina and Ras and not the kid who's been injured while signed on a team that has a bunchea never beens signed to ridiculous contracts that lend a hand in keeping him in the AHL

Svech will be playing in Europe soon. Bust.

If you want some fun go back to archived articles where I was screaming to take Hughes over Zadina. Most people ridiculed me. But I nailed it.

Go further back. Called Rasmussen a bust on draft day. Cholowski too. Said Chychrun would eventually make Kenny and Draper look like idiots.

The guy I was very wrong about was Bertuzzi. Thought it was nepotism at its worst, but glad he panned out.
- Kooleus

And it gets better, I forgot Chych was the guy who brought the puck into the o zone just to drop it off and circle back to where 2 of his forwards were and injure one. High level talent right there

I compared that duud calling kids busts to their GMs trading them right away. Not to mention that I was referring mainly to Zadina and Ras and not the kid who's been injured while signed on a team that has a bunchea never beens signed to ridiculous contracts that lend a hand in keeping him in the AHL
- VonDouche

How long would you like to wait for the Red Wings prospects to reach the NHL? 5 years? 10 years? It's a young players league more than ever now. You need your first round picks to make the jump much sooner than before. The Ken Holland over ripen method is over.

And it gets better, I forgot Chych was the guy who brought the puck into the o zone just to drop it off and circle back to where 2 of his forwards were and injure one. High level talent right there
- VonDouche

You're going to tell me you'd take Cholowski over Chychrun? I wouldn't even take Hronek over him. And I like Hronek alot. Chychrun is 22 years old with 4 NHL seasons under his belt. The only thing hurting him is his injury history.

You're going to tell me you'd take Cholowski over Chychrun? I wouldn't even take Hronek over him. And I like Hronek alot. Chychrun is 22 years old with 4 NHL seasons under his belt. The only thing hurting him is his injury history.
- gergeswillems

I'm curious as to how highly you view Chych. What group of defenders would you group him with? What would you rank him? I've seen Cholo make some mistakes, but I never seen Cholo make the complete amateur mistake I can't get over Chych making in that playoff series that I described earlier.

I know I don't scout none of them, especially naught Chych and I do have bias for hoping the wings prospects all develop into top tier talent, but I've never heard Chych talked about in any circles that would make me think Holland made a huge mistake.

How long would you like to wait for the Red Wings prospects to reach the NHL? 5 years? 10 years? It's a young players league more than ever now. You need your first round picks to make the jump much sooner than before. The Ken Holland over ripen method is over.
- gergeswillems

I'm saying it's possible svech could have already been up with the wings, but Holland kinda screwed them all over with the contracts he was willing to dish out to mediocre players he held way too much hope for. I just take into account that and his injuries.

But again, I should have clarified, I was mainly talking Ras and Zadina. They have Rasmussen trying to learn and play a different role, ya know, cuz why would you draft someone based on their abilities and tendencies they feel most comfortable with and allow them to flourish that way rather than forcing him to be holmstrom and thereby fight against the things he's always been comfortable doing. And I get he prefers that D man over Zadina, but if you watch Zadina play he's elite and his goals and points are about to show that those other teams really did pass on someone they shouldn't have