Another win for the Hawks... they have Pittsburgh's 2nd round pick (acquired in the Lehner to Vegas deal) and with PIT now at 15th overall, Hawks move from 55th to 45th with their 2nd pick.
- Tyler Cameron

Should be a good player at 45 with this deep draft. Tyler question is this offseason a make or break for bowman. His scouting and drafting has been pretty good but his trades over the last few have awful imo except the kubalik cannot remember a trade in which bowman won.

Should be a good player at 45 with this deep draft. Tyler question is this offseason a make or break for bowman. His scouting and drafting has been pretty good but his trades over the last few have awful imo except the kubalik cannot remember a trade in which bowman won.
- Scott1977

With the stagnant cap, trades may not be very important for a couple of years.

The way to beat the cap (or at least play it even) is through the draft and Euro and college FAs. As you say - Stan and his scouting staff have done well here.

Seattle won’t take part in this year’s draft, correct?

What are the restrictions on the new franchise going forward (I think there were restrictions on Vegas)?

Hawks need to defend well as a team and when they get the puck, go hard, go to the net and try to draw some penalties. The Vegas PK isn't great and if the Hawks can get on the PP and score a bit, then Vegas will have to back off and give us some space. The pressure will be on the 3rd and 4th lines to bring a bit more because I think our top 2 lines can match/beat their top 2 lines. The other question going in will be will our D continue to step up and contribute? I hope we get a fun series with some close games no matter what happens.
- breadbag

I know a lot is being made of the forward depth but Whitecloud, Holden, McNabb and Martinez are not defensive juggernauts

Whomever did Bettman's make-up must have been stoned. He looks like a 80 year old woman put it on him
- Elbows15

Yeah, he was clearly made up, but my first thought was he was sick in some way.

Should be a good player at 45 with this deep draft. Tyler question is this offseason a make or break for bowman. His scouting and drafting has been pretty good but his trades over the last few have awful imo except the kubalik cannot remember a trade in which bowman won.
- Scott1977

Hawks pick at slot 55.
(If you were looking at the site right after the draft, it went down, and I had to redo the entire 2-7 board late last night.)
The Hawks traded THEIR ORIGINAL second rounder to Montreal (and I have a kid I really like sitting there for the Habs). They have the Lehner second rounder that would drop even higher IF the Golden Knights get to the final four....

That tier I said the selections from slot 20 or so on stops and becomes the next tier in the early 40's.
What I was saying in the previous post was this, imo, is the first draft in yers where there is an entire first round of quality true fis=rst rounders PLUS those extra nine are close to first rounders too, so everyone (possibly) gets a car to quote Oprah
Everything depends upon a teams list. They rank their guys and purposefully don not draft many guys that other teams WILL select in between "your team's" picks so you dont know when you get to your next selection if you are on guy six on your list or guy 50...it all depends upon the work of the other teams or lack thereof....

I guess Corey Pronman looked at my draft because he radically changed all his early "thoughts" and it looks mighty close to my top 32 safe a few...

I think Bowman is safe until they miss a playoff.

Should be a good player at 45 with this deep draft. Tyler question is this offseason a make or break for bowman. His scouting and drafting has been pretty good but his trades over the last few have awful imo except the kubalik cannot remember a trade in which bowman won.
- Scott1977

Huh?

Brandon Manning, Robin Norell to Oilers for Drake Caggiula, Jason Garrison

Gustav Forsling and Anton Forsberg to the Hurricanes for Calvin de Haan and Aleksi Saarela

Brendan Perlini for Alec Regula

Yeah, he was clearly made up, but my first thought was he was sick in some way.
- wiz1901

Bettman hasn't look healthy the last couple of years. I know he is getting older but agree something about him not looking healthy.

Hawks pick at slot 55.
(If you were looking at the site right after the draft, it went down, and I had to redo the entire 2-7 board late last night.)
The Hawks traded THEIR ORIGINAL second rounder to Montreal (and I have a kid I really like sitting there for the Habs). They have the Lehner second rounder that would drop even higher IF the Golden Knights get to the final four....

That tier I said the selections from slot 20 or so on stops and becomes the next tier in the early 40's.
What I was saying in the previous post was this, imo, is the first draft in yers where there is an entire first round of quality true fis=rst rounders PLUS those extra nine are close to first rounders too, so everyone (possibly) gets a car to quote Oprah
Everything depends upon a teams list. They rank their guys and purposefully don not draft many guys that other teams WILL select in between "your team's" picks so you dont know when you get to your next selection if you are on guy six on your list or guy 50...it all depends upon the work of the other teams or lack thereof....

I guess Corey Pronman looked at my draft because he radically changed all his early "thoughts" and it looks mighty close to my top 32 safe a few...

I think Bowman is safe until they miss a playoff.
- wiz1901

Ok wiz who at that 2nd round pick would be good choice or choices?

Wishing that Hagel with Caggiulua and Dach could be a cycle line and Hagel a speedy checking pest. Maybe Entwhistle in game 6 or 7 same role on 4th line. Entwhistle and Highmore a lot of speed on a line. I wish we could get Fortin in as well..Just add speed and cycling. In this way let Vegas be surprised by us. If we are down, 3 games to zero or one, why not. And put Carlsson in on third pair?

GAME DAY, everyone!

How are you feeling?

Do the Hawks have a shot?

Will Robin Lehner get the start?

Will Kirby Dach continue to be awesome?

Will Ryan Reaves attempt to kill someone?
- Tyler Cameron

Pretty good. Just happy to still be playing and the more experience the Yutes get the better.

Think they have a shot. Finally scored a win against these guys this year and overall were playing them better vs. LVK's first two seasons in the league.

Careful what you wish for but hoping Lehner does get the start. As much as he knows their tendencies, they know his. Like someone said, go to the net and try to cash in on rebounds.

Was hopeful the Dach pick was going to be a good one and like some have said, he could turn out to be the best of the bunch in that draft.

I hope Reeves concusses himself trying to run one of our guys and gets nothing but boards instead.

Huh?

Brandon Manning, Robin Norell to Oilers for Drake Caggiula, Jason Garrison

Gustav Forsling and Anton Forsberg to the Hurricanes for Calvin de Haan and Aleksi Saarela

Brendan Perlini for Alec Regula
- Rota's Rooter

i was thinking danult panarin saad nylander trades in which were not very good. Regula most likely not be in the nhl sarrela already not with the hawks traded, Caggulia most likely won't be back next year. Dehann is always going to be question mark due his shoulder problems. The smith and shaw trades were not very good either both did not contribute too much this year. So what ever trades bowman makes if any need to be value for value where both teams win.

Hawks pick at slot 55.
(If you were looking at the site right after the draft, it went down, and I had to redo the entire 2-7 board late last night.)
The Hawks traded THEIR ORIGINAL second rounder to Montreal (and I have a kid I really like sitting there for the Habs). They have the Lehner second rounder that would drop even higher IF the Golden Knights get to the final four....

That tier I said the selections from slot 20 or so on stops and becomes the next tier in the early 40's.
What I was saying in the previous post was this, imo, is the first draft in yers where there is an entire first round of quality true fis=rst rounders PLUS those extra nine are close to first rounders too, so everyone (possibly) gets a car to quote Oprah
Everything depends upon a teams list. They rank their guys and purposefully don not draft many guys that other teams WILL select in between "your team's" picks so you dont know when you get to your next selection if you are on guy six on your list or guy 50...it all depends upon the work of the other teams or lack thereof....

I guess Corey Pronman looked at my draft because he radically changed all his early "thoughts" and it looks mighty close to my top 32 safe a few...

I think Bowman is safe until they miss a playoff.
- wiz1901

The hawks got the penguins second rd pick it should drop as Pitts out already

Bettman hasn't look healthy the last couple of years. I know he is getting older but agree something about him not looking healthy.
- Scott1977

Well, when you are not truthful and have things to hide, it does take it's toll. The truth will set him free.

I know a lot is being made of the forward depth but Whitecloud, Holden, McNabb and Martinez are not defensive juggernauts
- BetweenTheDots

Our defense is looking better, I don’t believe that Murphy and De Haan dressed for same game much this year, as they were both out at different times. With Keith elevating his game, plus De Haan, Murphy, and Maatta we have more experience in the back end than we’ve had in the last couple of years. We may not be in the top echelon as far as defensemen in the NHL go, but at least we now have NHL capable defensemen. Now that Boqvist has had a taste of playoffs, hopefully he will take a step up this round. While KK has his issues, I’ll take him over Gus and Manning. I would not bet the house on beating the Knights, I do believe this will be a very competitive series.

UPDATE: Lehner gets the nod in Game #1.

This will be interesting.

i was thinking danult panarin saad nylander trades in which were not very good. Regula most likely not be in the nhl sarrela already not with the hawks traded, Caggulia most likely won't be back next year. Dehann is always going to be question mark due his shoulder problems. The smith and shaw trades were not very good either both did not contribute too much this year. So what ever trades bowman makes if any need to be value for value where both teams win.
- Scott1977

From my perspective:
Danault trade was just bad - plain and simple.

I understand why they did the Panarin for Saad trade - and I really like Saad as a player, but I don't think they got enough value back (and didn't at the time).

Nylander for Joki is a wash so far. Neither has proven to be much more than underwhelming at this point. That is not to say they can't or won't, but thus far they haven't shown it.

No one has any idea right now what Regula can be right now.

Yes de Haan has a dodgy shoulder, but that trade was a huge win for Stan. He got rid of two guys that were never going to make the team and brought in a legit top 4 d-man. Saarela was simply a throw in.

Regardless of whether Caggiula will be resigned or not, that trade was another big win. They got rid of Manning - who admittedly was a horrible signing from the start and brought in a guy who has been able to play and contribute on every line he's been on.

Smith and Shaw are still head scratchers in my book. Fine, you wanted to get rid of AA. There had to be something better than a much worse player at slightly less cost. I didn't like bringing Shaw back when it happened and I still don't (regardless of his concussions).

Maatta for Kahun is kind of meh. I would prefer to still have Kahun on the roster, but I get why they wanted another D-man with experience.

UPDATE: Lehner gets the nod in Game #1.

This will be interesting.
- Tyler Cameron

As expected.

i was thinking danult panarin saad nylander trades in which were not very good. Regula most likely not be in the nhl sarrela already not with the hawks traded, Caggulia most likely won't be back next year. Dehann is always going to be question mark due his shoulder problems. The smith and shaw trades were not very good either both did not contribute too much this year. So what ever trades bowman makes if any need to be value for value where both teams win.
- Scott1977

This again?

No NHL GM is ever going to win every trade. None. Best you can hope for is to win more then you lose and correct you're errors along the way. The salary cap also comes into play. They're also not going to draft all potential top 6 forwards or top 4 d-men or starting goalies.

Some of the wins are addition by subtraction. The fact they got a player who may help by launching Mr. "I'm Real Good For 10 Games A Season" Perllini is a win in my book. The fact we got a player who can contribute for Brandon "Frigqin" Manning is amazing. DeHaan is currently the Hawks 3rd best d-man, wonky shoulder and all.

Danualt was traded because the Hawks were going all in that year. It didn't work. Sh!t happens. How much is Panarin making now? How was that salary going to fit in on this team?

I'm as spoiled as anyone after the 3 cups but, crap even I know you can't win all the time and sometimes the plan doesn't always work.

UPDATE: Lehner gets the nod in Game #1.

This will be interesting.
- Tyler Cameron

No poop, I'm surprised but i really hope this bites them in the ass.

To NYR:

Strome
Seabrook
Shaw
4th round pick in 2023

To CHI:

#1 overall
Panarin
Kakko
- DarthKane

We're getting Panarin and two high #1s they're getting nothing. Their GM isn't Tallon.

i was thinking danult panarin saad nylander trades in which were not very good. Regula most likely not be in the nhl sarrela already not with the hawks traded, Caggulia most likely won't be back next year. Dehann is always going to be question mark due his shoulder problems. The smith and shaw trades were not very good either both did not contribute too much this year. So what ever trades bowman makes if any need to be value for value where both teams win.
- Scott1977

I don't think those trades are bad.

Should be a good player at 45 with this deep draft. Tyler question is this offseason a make or break for bowman. His scouting and drafting has been pretty good but his trades over the last few have awful imo except the kubalik cannot remember a trade in which bowman won.
- Scott1977

Trades are supposed to be even not "won." Saad Panarin trade isn't bad when you factor two years vs four of use. Nylander Joki trade still undecided.

This again?

No NHL GM is ever going to win every trade. None. Best you can hope for is to win more then you lose and correct you're errors along the way. The salary cap also comes into play. They're also not going to draft all potential top 6 forwards or top 4 d-men or starting goalies.

Some of the wins are addition by subtraction. The fact they got a player who may help by launching Mr. "I'm Real Good For 10 Games A Season" Perllini is a win in my book. The fact we got a player who can contribute for Brandon "Frigqin" Manning is amazing. DeHaan is currently the Hawks 3rd best d-man, wonky shoulder and all.

Danualt was traded because the Hawks were going all in that year. It didn't work. Sh!t happens. How much is Panarin making now? How was that salary going to fit in on this team?

I'm as spoiled as anyone after the 3 cups but, crap even I know you can't win all the time and sometimes the plan doesn't always work.
- Rota's Rooter

Well if we would of fired Stan and had Dubas as GM we would of found out. I guess out of the playoffs. (If we would of signed Pnarin to say $9.5 or above)

Hungry.

Yes.

Yes.

For sure, I think Dach elevates his game further.

Without a doubt.
- DarthKane

Elevating his game would be putting up major points. Not simply being a pain in the ass. Kane must score. Cagguila - Toews - Kubalik
Saad - Dach - Kane
Debrinkat - Strome - ?