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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 11 @ 8:18 AM ET
Would be great if Lemieux somehow gets the skill to be our Wilson.
Agree on Simmonds, dude is toast.

- Fenrir



You watch it yet?
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 11 @ 8:20 AM ET
Glad the Rangers won If the Oilers Leafs or Pens won I’d go crazy. About time.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 11 @ 8:26 AM ET
Two biggest needs that we have on our current roster:

1) legit 2nd line center ------ I like Strome, but I think we can upgrade

2) legit top 4 LHD to pair with Trouba ---- Don't want to rush the kids

Solution:

Trade rights to Strome to Buffalo straight up for Jake McCabe.
If he doesn't pair well with Trouba, he should mesh well with Tony D'Angelo. Alleviates the need to rush Miller. Buffalo needs a 2nd line center and Strome will help them. McCabe is a clear upgrade over Smith and has a better contract.

Trade Nils Lundqvist and our 2020 late 1st round pick to Tampa straight up for Anthony Cirelli.
Lightning have to clear cap space for Sergachev and I realize they want NHL ready players in return, but nobody will offer them a better package than us. I don't do this trade lightly because Lundqvist has a high ceiling, but Cirelli just turned 23 and he could be a rising star. We could sign him for the $$ we are currently paying Strome so our cap hits will actually go DOWN with these 2 deals. Cirelli keeps Chytil on the 3rd line and gives him time to grow.

- TommyGTrain


Great post. I think you are right, Sergachev is the expensive RFA that the Lightening will choose to protect.

I think Cirelli is already the target of multiple teams including the Sens, Devils, Ducks and Rangers. All of them have an "extra" 1st round pick to offer up as a bargaining chip. So, what is the added piece that will make the difference in a possible deal?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 11 @ 8:31 AM ET
Georgie, Carolina's 1st and another asset to Buffalo for the #8?

Let's get Lafreniere and Lundell

- KreiderBomb


I know everyone is lusting for Lundell to have a Finnish guy to play with Kakko, but after taking Lafreniere, our young forwards are very very lefty shot heavy, and Lundell is a lefty.

Kakko, Chytil, Lafreniere, Kravstov, Buchnevich, Howden, Barron, Andersson, Henriksson, Gettinger and then Kreider, Lemieux all left handed shots

I just wonder if it would factor in to their thinking about that 2nd first rounder

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Aug 11 @ 8:34 AM ET
You watch it yet?
- JRR1285

Too scared
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 11 @ 8:42 AM ET
I know everyone is lusting for Lundell to have a Finnish guy to play with Kakko, but after taking Lafreniere, our young forwards are very very lefty shot heavy, and Lundell is a lefty.

Kakko, Chytil, Lafreniere, Kravstov, Buchnevich, Howden, Barron, Andersson, Henriksson, Gettinger and then Kreider, Lemieux all left handed shots

I just wonder if it would factor in to their thinking about that 2nd first rounder

- jimbro83

Good point, and we know this team likes lefty-righty balance. But some of the lefties can play right wing, which mitigates the need somewhat.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 11 @ 8:44 AM ET
Great post. I think you are right, Sergachev is the expensive RFA that the Lightening will choose to protect.

I think Cirelli is already the target of multiple teams including the Sens, Devils, Ducks and Rangers. All of them have an "extra" 1st round pick to offer up as a bargaining chip. So, what is the added piece that will make the difference in a possible deal?

- spatso

I love Cirelli. It’s who I want the Rangers to target in the McDonagh/Miller deal. I think Tampa tries to move one or two salaries - Tyler Johnson being one - to free up room to keep Cirelli. Moving I think is a very last resort for the Lightning.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 11 @ 8:44 AM ET
Good point, and we know this team likes lefty-righty balance. But some of the lefties can play right wing, which mitigates the need somewhat.
- airjan23


well the good news is we have two of the best righty shots in the world already in Panarin and Zibanejad
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 11 @ 8:48 AM ET
I love Cirelli. It’s who I want the Rangers to target in the McDonagh/Miller deal. I think Tampa tries to move one or two salaries - Tyler Johnson being one - to free up room to keep Cirelli. Moving I think is a very last resort for the Lightning.
- airjan23



Vasilevskiy going from 3.5 million to 9.5 million is a killer, ooooofa
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 11 @ 8:53 AM ET
I love Cirelli. It’s who I want the Rangers to target in the McDonagh/Miller deal. I think Tampa tries to move one or two salaries - Tyler Johnson being one - to free up room to keep Cirelli. Moving I think is a very last resort for the Lightning.
- airjan23


I believe you are right about what Tampa will try to do. But, there are 10 teams that need to free up cap space just to sign their own players. There are another 10 teams near the cap limits who are unable to absorb much additional salary. And, there are 10 teams that have cap space that can absorb significant salary in deals.

So, as many as 20 teams will be looking for some help from the 10 that have cap flexibility. It is going to be hard (expensive) to move salary.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 11 @ 8:53 AM ET
So it appears the Rangers got the last LAF


Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 11 @ 8:54 AM ET
Vasilevskiy going from 3.5 million to 9.5 million is a killer, ooooofa
- jimbro83

Gourde - $5.166 for five more years
Johnson - $5 mil for the next four seasons

They have a ton of tough decisions with Kucherov and Vasilevskiy at $9.5 mil each along with Stamkos at $8.5 mil. Giving McDonagh $6.75 mil for six more years looks sub-optimal with Sergachev needing to be paid.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 11 @ 8:55 AM ET
Gourde - $5.166 for five more years
Johnson - $5 mil for the next four seasons

They have a ton of tough decisions with Kucherov and Vasilevskiy at $9.5 mil each along with Stamkos at $8.5 mil. Giving McDonagh $6.75 mil for six more years looks sub-optimal with Sergachev needing to be paid.

- airjan23


they have so many chips in to try and win it all this year, but it's gonna be tough with Hedman hurt yet again

Tampa also gives out NTC clauses like candy
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 11 @ 9:00 AM ET
Too scared
- Fenrir



Come on.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 11 @ 9:01 AM ET
Gourde - $5.166 for five more years
Johnson - $5 mil for the next four seasons

They have a ton of tough decisions with Kucherov and Vasilevskiy at $9.5 mil each along with Stamkos at $8.5 mil. Giving McDonagh $6.75 mil for six more years looks sub-optimal with Sergachev needing to be paid.

- airjan23


Everyone is looking at the cap vulnerability of the Lightening. But, they are not alone. St. Louis, Islanders, Toronto, Boston, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Edmonton have really tough cap challenges next year.

It is a buyers' trade market. Nobody is going to make it easy for Tampa to give away a $5m salary.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 11 @ 9:01 AM ET
Panarin Strome Kakko
Buch Zib Lafrenière
Kreider Chytil Kravtsov
Lemeuix Howden PDG

- nyrangers9479


You want CK20 to be bounced for 2 rookies??
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 11 @ 9:02 AM ET
I know everyone is lusting for Lundell to have a Finnish guy to play with Kakko, but after taking Lafreniere, our young forwards are very very lefty shot heavy, and Lundell is a lefty.

Kakko, Chytil, Lafreniere, Kravstov, Buchnevich, Howden, Barron, Andersson, Henriksson, Gettinger and then Kreider, Lemieux all left handed shots

I just wonder if it would factor in to their thinking about that 2nd first rounder

- jimbro83



Poolparty shoots right.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 11 @ 9:04 AM ET
Poolparty shoots right.
- JRR1285


you are talking Jesse Puljujarvi right?
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
Gourde - $5.166 for five more years
Johnson - $5 mil for the next four seasons

They have a ton of tough decisions with Kucherov and Vasilevskiy at $9.5 mil each along with Stamkos at $8.5 mil. Giving McDonagh $6.75 mil for six more years looks sub-optimal with Sergachev needing to be paid.

- airjan23


That is the dirtiest use of the term "sub-optimal" I have ever seen!!!
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 11 @ 9:05 AM ET
you are talking Jesse Puljujarvi right?
- jimbro83



Yes.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 11 @ 9:06 AM ET
That is the dirtiest use of the term "sub-optimal" I have ever seen!!!
- Tonybere



Agreed. Jan is so polite when he shreds a team.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 11 @ 9:08 AM ET
Everyone is looking at the cap vulnerability of the Lightening. But, they are not alone. St. Louis, Islanders, Toronto, Boston, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Edmonton have really tough cap challenges next year.

It is a buyers' trade market. Nobody is going to make it easy for Tampa to give away a $5m salary.

- spatso


Unfortunately, you can add the Rangers to that list, as well. Only for one season, but we have to navigate that somehow before we can set up for the future. Upgrading our 2C will be impossible without moving some salary. So, we might need multiple moves.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 11 @ 9:14 AM ET
I dont think fast is making or breaking a lineup
- picklerick

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 11 @ 9:16 AM ET
All I know is getting that #1 gives the Rangers a bunch more options now.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 11 @ 9:18 AM ET
Nice to see Larry Brooks rain on the parade and be negative in his article today haha
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