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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 15 @ 1:20 AM ET
I don’t think this is a loss that you just brush off as a fan. Sure, you win some and you lose some but it’s the way you lose that’s a concern. I felt like we were outworked, outplayed and out smarted for 60 minutes.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 15 @ 2:18 AM ET
AV sounds embarrassed and pissed

Let’s see if that resonates. He hasn’t had to be that guy in awhile.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Aug 15 @ 2:20 AM ET
AV sounds embarrassed and pissed

Let’s see if that resonates. He hasn’t had to be that guy in awhile.

- Hesh_

You know what? He was pretty critical of players in September for training camp. I don’t think he’s been that harsh since. Maybe he should.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 7:07 AM ET
The STYLE! Not the result! Or the execution!

The former depends only on them. The latter two-the opponents have a say.

- PT21


Every team has a style before they even step on the ice!


We'll just continue to break it down step by step until we get there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 7:08 AM ET
What I saw was an one-dimensionality to our downfall. You did not see breakaways and players being deked and tremendous sniping. You saw in 4 of the 5 goals one or more of the following: bad line change/turnover/defenseman not taking the body/bad back-checking/bad crease-clearing.

All mistakes made by us, because of underestimating the other team.

The other goal was a pp.

This is not the Flyers I watched this year. I cannot imagine they will let it continue.

- PT21


You're underestimating the role the Habs had in forcing those mistakes. It's was about far more than just underestimating them.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Aug 15 @ 7:22 AM ET
Very impressive.... but I’ll keep it simple. If they don’t start skating and playing like this is playoff hockey, then they will be lucky if Game 1 isn’t the only game they win.

Montreal came ready for playoff hockey. The Penguins and Flyers did not. Tip of the cap to the Habs. If the Flyers decide to up their tempo and work ethic, they will win the series. If they don’t, they won’t have to worry about the short layoff between seasons.

- Flyers1218

ARNIA!...Armia
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 8:46 AM ET
Ok here is a try

Goal 1. Look at the play by Myers and Giroux on the first goal.


Cross-ice pass by Suzuki to Gallagher. Covered by Myers, who has good position. But (this will be a theme), The smaller Gallagher doubles back, completely flat-footing Myers (who has problems with quick change of directions in a small space, as Barzal showed us). Forwards are not expecting Myers to get beat so bad, they are relaxed, and Giroux completely loses Tatar who slides in from way out to score.


- PT21


The entire idea of AV's overload zone system is to have layers of defense and to overload and out man the opposition on the puck. Notice how the ice is cut in half vertically and all Flyers are on the puck side. Defenseman are occasionally going to be beat. I disagree that Myers has problems with quick changes of direction. That is false. Barzal has made a lot of defenseman whiff. Sanheim is able to help out with Gallagher. It's a BS excuse to say that the forwards are not expecting it. Giroux fell asleep and was puck watching.



Goal 2. Look at Braun, Ghost on second goal.



Play starts with a stupid turnover by Hart, who has no business going back there under pressure when that is not his strength. Hart loses his stick. Bit of a cluster(frank), with pucks being batted out of the air. A little confusion, with Couts and Braun going towards the same player (Domi).

Ghost is left alone in the crease and has terrible positioning. One MTL player gets behind him (Kotkaniemi) and he goes after the other (Lehkonen). He falls to his knees and is beaten as Lehkonen is able to complete a pass he should not have been able to make to an open Kotkaniemi. Ghost ended up doing nothing to impair either.


- PT21


I disagree that Hart has no business making a play on the puck. It was the correct read jut not executed. Gostisbehere got knocked down and really was hung out to dry on the play. Also it's a safe that should be made.





Goal 4. Look at Pitlick and Braun.


Pitlick cannot get puck in deep at the red line. Players are heading off on a line change. Turnover again.


Arnia races down the left, Braun is on him. Again, Arnia doubles back, and Braun ends up overplaying badly. Arnia gets a pass off, and it deflects off Ghost's skate. Lucky goal. (Bullpoop to Arnia aiming for Ghost's angled skate for a bank). That was a pass.


- PT21


Braun was fine on that play. he had his man to the outside and contained. Just bad luck.



Goal 5. Look at the timing off the line change on the pp!


Why is everybody going off on a line change when Canadiens have possession near their own blue line on a pp?! Because they underestimate how quick this team is.

To a certain extent, overall theme is:


- PT21


Nothing to do with underestimating. Laughton changed because he had no stick. Niskanen tried to change because he was playing with another players stick.


SuperSchennBros
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Aug 15 @ 1:44 PM ET
How does Noah Hanifin get drafted higher than Ivan Provorov?
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