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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 14 @ 8:34 PM ET
OK, let’s revisit. Stan and Lehner’s agent are negotiating. Lehner says no hometown discount, which means at a minimum he wants 7 x $7, which Stan can’t afford nor probably stomach the term. Your club is not making the playoffs. So you lose Lehner for zero at the end of the year. Nobody is offering a #1 draft choice. What do you do at the Trade deadline?
- LAHawk


Trade him for a 2nd, Subban, and Slava Demin?

I'm surprised CAR didn't pony up given their goalie situation but I think it also tells you what the market was. Like you said, no one was willing to part with their 1st for our UFA goalie. I thought Stan did ok here.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 8:36 PM ET
Carrier and Reaves are scum.

https://twitter.com/CRoum...tatus/1294357337831100418

- EnzoD


Carrier had a penalty every other shift

How about Tuch he plays defense by leveraging someone with his stick in the midsection any time he's behind them or out of position?
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 14 @ 8:37 PM ET
Carrier and Reaves are scum.

https://twitter.com/CRoum...tatus/1294357337831100418

- EnzoD


That seems like a pretty obvious penalty. I know it's playoff hockey but FFS!
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 9:12 PM ET
Wow. Tyler Motte is still in the NHL and playing on a good team. Good for him
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Aug 14 @ 9:12 PM ET
I think we're just stuck with Cat for the time being. I don't think anyone predicted 40 goals so fast. He's just got to find that middle ground and he's still young. Too bad they dealt the cash already, but I think we were all hoping for another Panarin type. Here's to a win tomorrow!!!
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Aug 14 @ 9:16 PM ET
Blues tie Vanbwith 6 seconds left...maybe.

No maybe - yes.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 9:28 PM ET
I really wish the Hawks had someone like Ovi's or Webers shot. So effective
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Aug 14 @ 9:32 PM ET
OK, let’s revisit. Stan and Lehner’s agent are negotiating. Lehner says no hometown discount, which means at a minimum he wants 7 x $7, which Stan can’t afford nor probably stomach the term. Your club is not making the playoffs. So you lose Lehner for zero at the end of the year. Nobody is offering a #1 draft choice. What do you do at the Trade deadline?
- LAHawk

You do what Stanbo did - trade Lehner to the Maple Leafs and let them deal with Vegas. The rich, desperate and confused Loafs retained some of Lehner's salary in order to buy a 5th round pick from Vegas.

So Stan got himself a 2nd and another young defenceman to put in his collection which I'm good with.

And on one of the broadcasts this week one of the 'insiders' said that Bowman told Lehner after the trade that the Hawks will definitely want to talk with him in the off season. Which Elbows will find exhilarating.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 14 @ 9:49 PM ET
You do what Stanbo did - trade Lehner to the Maple Leafs and let them deal with Vegas. The rich, desperate and confused Loafs retained some of Lehner's salary in order to buy a 5th round pick from Vegas.

So Stan got himself a 2nd and another young defenceman to put in his collection which I'm good with.

And on one of the broadcasts this week one of the 'insiders' said that Bowman told Lehner after the trade that the Hawks will definitely want to talk with him in the off season. Which Elbows will find exhilarating.

- RickJ


Please tell me there was a similar discussion with Koekkoek.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Aug 14 @ 10:11 PM ET
This is a very interesting development - that Vancouver has taken a 2 - 0 series lead

Do you really want the Blues not to advace. It is one thing to cheer for an underdog. They do have some exciting young talent. Altogether different story though if you are hoping the best teams meet each roundvof playoff. Those darn Canuck - el - heads.

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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 10:21 PM ET
Islanders look so much faster than the Caps
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 10:21 PM ET
This is a very interesting development - that Vancouver has taken a 2 - 0 series lead

Do you really want the Blues not to advace. It is one thing to cheer for an underdog. They do have some exciting young talent. Altogether different story though if you are hoping the best teams meet each roundvof playoff. Those darn Canuck - el - heads.


- jhawk59[img][/img]


Blues didn't deserve that game to go to OT
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 14 @ 10:32 PM ET
Wow. Tyler Motte is still in the NHL and playing on a good team. Good for him
- just69sayin


Motte has played very well, I’d welcome him back in a heartbeat. He’s been a very solid 4th liner & PK specialist for the Canucks.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 14 @ 10:36 PM ET
Trade him for a 2nd, Subban, and Slava Demin?

I'm surprised CAR didn't pony up given their goalie situation but I think it also tells you what the market was. Like you said, no one was willing to part with their 1st for our UFA goalie. I thought Stan did ok here.

- HawkintheD


All things considered, Stan did well in the Lehner trade. Historically teams don’t pay the same price for rental goalies as they do for rental forwards. There are exceptions, but they’re rare.

Signing Lehner last summer was a win/win situation. Either the Hawks have their goalie for the next few years (if he re-signs) or they trade him and get assets they would not have had otherwise. The Hawks needed a second round pick, now they have one.

Speaking of the Hawks 2nd round pick. Have we figured out if it will be #45 or #55?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 14 @ 10:37 PM ET
This is a very interesting development - that Vancouver has taken a 2 - 0 series lead

Do you really want the Blues not to advace. It is one thing to cheer for an underdog. They do have some exciting young talent. Altogether different story though if you are hoping the best teams meet each roundvof playoff. Those darn Canuck - el - heads.


- jhawk59[img][/img]


I have to give Vancouver credit, they look good. I’m not sure how far they will go this year, but they have a shot at a decent run.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 14 @ 10:40 PM ET
Islanders look so much faster than the Caps
- BetweenTheDots


Nick Leddy scores their first goal of the night.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 10:41 PM ET
I tell you Uncle Lou can be my GM anytime, don't know what the Leafs were thinking not listening to him
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Aug 14 @ 10:57 PM ET
I tell you Uncle Lou can be my GM anytime, don't know what the Leafs were thinking not listening to him
- BetweenTheDots

Brendan Shanahan gave Uncle Lou an analytics test and he flunked it.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 14 @ 11:15 PM ET
Brendan Shanahan gave Uncle Lou an analytics test and he flunked it.
- RickJ


Scary thing is you're probably right. I'll never understand giving more power to an ex player who hasn't done anything as opposed to a gm who's got several cups.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Aug 14 @ 11:46 PM ET
blows 0-6...they is done...

take a look at horvats end to end rush to beat 2 blues and score...a beauty

caps down 0-2..i give them a chance to come back and win

hawks 0-2...no chance
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Aug 14 @ 11:52 PM ET
Debrincat, Strome, and Nylander should all be on trading block
- newfguy

How about all of them and the Hawks 1st for the Rangers 1st? I wouldn't offer that if I knew what was going on with DCat. From here though it looks like something's up with his shot. So yeah, any takers?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 15 @ 12:24 AM ET
Motte has played very well, I’d welcome him back in a heartbeat. He’s been a very solid 4th liner & PK specialist for the Canucks.
- DarthKane

I'd take Motte back, too. Was disappointed to see him in that polarizing trade with Columbus.

He's fast, built like a fire hydrant, defensively responsible. Decent offensive skill.

A 4th line with Kampf centering Motte and Highmore would be stellar. I like Carpenter but Motte is younger and more mobile.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 15 @ 12:29 AM ET
I think we're just stuck with Cat for the time being. I don't think anyone predicted 40 goals so fast. He's just got to find that middle ground and he's still young. Too bad they dealt the cash already, but I think we were all hoping for another Panarin type. Here's to a win tomorrow!!!
- Matt_Foleys_bro

DeBrincat just needs to pigeon hole himself as a goal scorer. Get to the prime scoring areas and have linemates feed him or make space so he can unleash his snapshot.

If he can do that, he should get back to at least an annual 30-35 goal range.

But if not and he degrades more next year, he may be go the way of Jonathan Cheechoo.

So the question is do you remain faithful in DeBrincat or try to sell high now in case his stock slips even more.

It would suck to have another Gustafsson situation by not maximizing returns a year early.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Aug 15 @ 1:00 AM ET
I'd take Motte back, too. Was disappointed to see him in that polarizing trade with Columbus.

He's fast, built like a fire hydrant, defensively responsible. Decent offensive skill.

A 4th line with Kampf centering Motte and Highmore would be stellar. I like Carpenter but Motte is younger and more mobile.

- AEL_Fox

It's too bad if people are upset about the trade...Hawks weren't paying up for Panarin, right? I'm not the biggest Saad fan, but I thought (probably my first problem), Saad was a quality return. Saad can be a gamebreaker. He definitely should have had 1, if not 2 goals last game (just to contradict myself lol)
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 15 @ 1:55 AM ET
DeBrincat just needs to pigeon hole himself as a goal scorer. Get to the prime scoring areas and have linemates feed him or make space so he can unleash his snapshot.

If he can do that, he should get back to at least an annual 30-35 goal range.

But if not and he degrades more next year, he may be go the way of Jonathan Cheechoo.

So the question is do you remain faithful in DeBrincat or try to sell high now in case his stock slips even more.

It would suck to have another Gustafsson situation by not maximizing returns a year early.

- AEL_Fox

I wouldn't say we could sell high on DeBrincat now in fact I'm not sure you could sell him with that contract at all?
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