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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
To play the Islanders who also have a ton of speed and are flat out a better team then MTL.
- Flyers1218

Yeah but eliminating these clowns will be fun.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Time to bench jvr. I’d rather bunny get in there in the bottom group.
- Just5



He’s one of about 6 guys that need to get it going....but Christ he’s tough to watch the last couple of games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
Just can’t agree with you. I love Ghost. But the defensive chemistry isn’t there when he’s in the lineup.

He’s gone in the off season.

- Flyers1218


Haven't seen enough to know that. The entire team was a train wreck in game 2. Haag does what he does and plays well to his ability but defending is losing hockey. They need Gostisbehere's puck skills to move the puck and create transition.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
Guilty as charged, sir.

Maker's Mark still the drink of choice?

- PT21



Haven't had a drink in almost ten years!

Makes it a lot harder to watch mediocre hockey!

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
And Flyers were at 40.9% overall. So Hagg was right about there.

Ghost is not seeing a minute for the rest of the series.

- PT21

If he does find a way back in I wouldn’t be taking Hägg out. The physical play is much needed.
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Aug 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
underwhelming win. crap power play. 4 or 5 posts on their side. we could have easily lost 3 to 1. i would rather have the win than the expected goals but i will bet they won that by 3 to 1. positives, hart, blocked shots, hitting, and team defense ex a few nasty turnovers
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:08 PM ET
And Flyers were at 40.9% overall. So Hagg was right about there.

Ghost is not seeing a minute for the rest of the series.

- PT21


We'll see. If the Flyers give up that territorial edge to a good offensive team, it will be lights out. Haag is not going to be able to do anything to turn that around.
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Aug 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
underwhelming win. crap power play. 4 or 5 posts on their side. we could have easily lost 3 to 1. i would rather have the win than the expected goals but i will bet they won that by 3 to 1. positives, hart, blocked shots, hitting, and team defense ex a few nasty turnovers
- biggbear77
what do we have 3 goals in 3 game? aint no cup in our future at that rate.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Montreal is playing well and they play with max effort but they're a limited team. A quality team that plays well on both sides of the puck can and should handle them. Flyers are barely squeaking by. Habs could've easily potted a few tonight. Short term, a win in the series. Long term, very disappointed in a number of players so far and how that effects the Flyers chances as the playoffs move along.
- MJL


I don’t disagree. I can’t figure out why our big guns are not playing up to par. They will need those guys to get it going and some pp goals to go anywhere really. I’m very proud of harts play.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Aug 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
You're always linking to analytics. Haag was at 40% CF.

I'd play Gostisbehere next game.

- MJL


Yeah. When they sit JVR, Ghost will be the best choice to take his place.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:11 PM ET
And Flyers were at 40.9% overall. So Hagg was right about there.

Ghost is not seeing a minute for the rest of the series.

- PT21


A series can have a long, long life. Ghost struggled in game 2, but he’s a talented kid. We still may need him going forward.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Aug 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
I don’t disagree. I can’t figure out why our big guns are not playing up to par. They will need those guys to get it going and some pp goals to go anywhere really. I’m very proud of harts play.
- Hextall271


I thought this was Coots best game of the 3. He was starting to knock down passes in the offensive zone. Still a series lead, really encouraged Nisky was a lot better tonight.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
Haven't had a drink in almost ten years!

Makes it a lot harder to watch mediocre hockey!

- MrBuzzcut


Woah!! Do I misremember? Wasn't Maker's a fave?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
I thpught this was Coots best game of the 3. He was starting to knock down passes in the offensive zone. Still a series lead, really encouraged Nisky was a lot better tonight.
- Trox88


I saw it differently. Niskanen and Couturier continue to be disappointing.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
A series can have a long, long life. Ghost struggled in game 2, but he’s a talented kid. We still may need him going forward.
- landros 2


I stand by what I said.

Did you see Braun flounder around like last time? You are not going to bring a #5/#6 D to spark an offense.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Aug 16 @ 11:16 PM ET
I stand by what I said.

Did you see Braun flounder around like last time? You are not going to bring a #5/#6 D to spark an offense.

- PT21


I agree, if Hagg is healthy, he plays game 4.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
I would not mind them finding a spot for Farabee.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
Woah!! Do I misremember? Wasn't Maker's a fave?
- PT21


It was!

I drink sparkling water now!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
Haven't had a drink in almost ten years!

Makes it a lot harder to watch mediocre hockey!

- MrBuzzcut

i hope we don't get smoked next round
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
I would not mind them finding a spot for Farabee.
- hereticpride

JVR is pretty useless
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:19 PM ET
I stand by what I said.

Did you see Braun flounder around like last time? You are not going to bring a #5/#6 D to spark an offense.

- PT21


The Flyers were much better tonight than in game #2. When a team is being severely outplayed like they were in game 2, with breakdowns, turnovers galore, defenseman are going to be under siege and running around. You're incorrectly insinuating that the addition of Haag made Braun better. It was the overall team play that made Braun better. The Flyers are lacking transition and counter attack play. That's why they aren't generating any offense. Gostisbehere can absolutely help with that.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 16 @ 11:20 PM ET
It was!

I drink sparkling water now!

- MrBuzzcut


And ..this is a real arcane reference, and you may not remember, but I do.

Have you reconciled yourself to the fact that you have a labrum?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 11:20 PM ET
I would not mind them finding a spot for Farabee.
- hereticpride


It would be a tough spot for Farabee but the Flyers aren't getting enough from the bottom 6.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Aug 16 @ 11:21 PM ET
I would not mind them finding a spot for Farabee.
- hereticpride

It would be nice, but I don't know who comes out. It won't be anyone from the 4th line - they will stay the same.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 16 @ 11:22 PM ET
So we had this discussion of coaching after game 2. It’s believed that it’s not a coaching issue and it isn’t BUT even with Bill laying out Alain Vigneault’s resume, it’s still not perfect coaching. Love the structure of our game at even strength. He has kids under 23 on defense, defending men. That’s pretty remarkable. With this said, there aren’t any in game adjustments ever! Not on the power play. Not even Laughton is giving the puck to the other team. I feel like all the guys who go to the crease to score goals are all in the bottom six. James van Riemsdyk, Nick Aube-Kubel, Nate Thompson, Michael Raffl. All these guys are crash their net type of players and they’re separated from the skilled guys in the top six. They’re not being used on the power play. We just go with the same bland offensive approach every game.
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