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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 17 @ 10:56 AM ET
Difficult to tell when he hits UFA status with him being an unsigned free agent.

He is interesting enough that signing him to a 4 year deal at between $3M-$3.5M might look very good as early as next season.

- kingcong39

i really liked the way he looked in buffalo last year...however, it was only six games and there was absolutely no pressure on him or the team...

i'm in favor of a bridge...it's a gamble as he could explode, but he skated with some pretty good players in toews, saad and debrincat in chicago as well as malkin and hornqvist in pitt...not sure who he'll be with in buffalo next year
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
I just listen to it didn't hear any of that
- gerbe75pts


Go to the youtube and fast forward to 53.40 they start talking Sabres and mention this and Kyber says " you don't go from running the Buffalo Jr Sabres to trading Jack Eichel" LOL

So, they are going to have build the team around him and not keep the same soldiers.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
i really liked the way he looked in buffalo last year...however, it was only six games and there was absolutely no pressure on him or the team...

i'm in favor of a bridge...it's a gamble as he could explode, but he skated with some pretty good players in toews, saad and debrincat in chicago as well as malkin and hornqvist in pitt...not sure who he'll be with in buffalo next year

- Michael Pachla


From the Dobber website:

2018-2019: 55% of his time with either Debrincat or Toews
2019-2020: 16% with Malkin, 11% with Hornqvist, 18% with McCann
2019-2020: Most of his time was spent with Johansson (and Vesey), but as you said, the sample size was only 6 games
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
If you project Kahun to continue or even improve upon his .5 PPG numbers even with the limited minutes he plays and his 65% offensive zone starts, is he the kind of player you attempt to get a 4 year deal done at say $3M-$3.5M to see if you can get a player on a quality deal, instead of going with a one or two year bridge deal?
- kingcong39

his size worries me on injuries..
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
I love your posts ! Appreciate the detail.

I think Kahun can be a very good complimentary piece whom can play off of a Jeff Skinner.

Just need to find a Center to play between the 2 of them.

If not I like the looks of a Mojo-Cozens-Kahun third line.

- Pegullaville

i think we need better in the top 6 and that 3rd line sounds good...
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
i really liked the way he looked in buffalo last year...however, it was only six games and there was absolutely no pressure on him or the team...

i'm in favor of a bridge...it's a gamble as he could explode, but he skated with some pretty good players in toews, saad and debrincat in chicago as well as malkin and hornqvist in pitt...not sure who he'll be with in buffalo next year

- Michael Pachla



Played at a 41 point pace with the likes of McCann, Hornqvist, Bjugstad, Ashton-Reese

https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/dominik-kahun

The more I read, the more I like.

Seems like he drives play at 5v5 and is very good at generating offence as a play maker.

Seems like a very good analytical combo with Skinner but that probably means he’ll never see the ice with him 😂
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
i think we need better in the top 6 and that 3rd line sounds good...
- SabresFaninIndiana


I agree
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
his size worries me on injuries..
- SabresFaninIndiana


I see no injuries during his first 2 seasons.

He played all 82 his first season with Chicago.

I find the size fascination interesting.

Kahun is listed at 5'11 175 and size is a concern.

Cirelli is listed at 6 foot even and 193 and people say he has good size.

It's tough to draw a correlation to determine certain sizes are more at risk than others unless they are extremes, and Kahun's height and weight does not feel like an extreme towards the low end.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
Played at a 41 point pace with the likes of McCann, Hornqvist, Bjugstad, Ashton-Reese

https://frozenpool.dobber...com/players/dominik-kahun

The more I read, the more I like.

Seems like he drives play at 5v5 and is very good at generating offence as a play maker.

Seems like a very good analytical combo with Skinner but that probably means he’ll never see the ice with him 😂

- Pegullaville


He played a lot with Malkin as well. The link you referenced is not the most accurate.

https://frozenpool.dobber...9&period=ALL&situation=EV
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:11 AM ET
I love your posts ! Appreciate the detail.

I think Kahun can be a very good complimentary piece whom can play off of a Jeff Skinner.

Just need to find a Center to play between the 2 of them.

If not I like the looks of a Mojo-Cozens-Kahun third line.

- Pegullaville


If you go with Skinner at LW and Kahun at RW on the same line, you definitely want a Center who can also handle himself defensively as Kahun has received 65% offensive zone starts his first 2 seasons.

It won't happen as I believe Nashville really likes him, but I believe Bonino would be a great fit between Skinner and Kahun.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
He played a lot with Malkin as well. The link you referenced is not the most accurate.

https://frozenpool.dobber...9&period=ALL&situation=EV

- kingcong39


Fair enough
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
I agree
- GilPerreault11

i want to be able to roll 3 solid lines so people aren't so focused on Eichel.

i dont know for sure but i feel like our home record is better than our away record because of that.. i might be completely wrong on that so feel free to prove me wrong
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
i want to be able to roll 3 solid lines so people aren't so focused on Eichel.

i dont know for sure but i feel like our home record is better than our away record because of that.. i might be completely wrong on that so feel free to prove me wrong

- SabresFaninIndiana



Well, consider the facts.

Eichel and his line were generally the only ones consistently scoring. If Eichel wasn't scoring, the Sabres had little chance of winning.

Eichel dominated at home and got absolutely stuffed on the road.

There's ways to prove your theory, but it sure as poop can't be simply coincidence.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
From the Dobber website:

2018-2019: 55% of his time with either Debrincat or Toews
2019-2020: 16% with Malkin, 11% with Hornqvist, 18% with McCann
2019-2020: Most of his time was spent with Johansson (and Vesey), but as you said, the sample size was only 6 games

- kingcong39

the caseys--nelson and mittelstadt--also had great six-game debuts with the sabres...

that said, i really liked that olofsson/mojo/kahun line
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
If you go with Skinner at LW and Kahun at RW on the same line, you definitely want a Center who can also handle himself defensively as Kahun has received 65% offensive zone starts his first 2 seasons.

It won't happen as I believe Nashville really likes him, but I believe Bonino would be a great fit between Skinner and Kahun.

- kingcong39


that's huge...makes me reign in the enthusiasm a bit
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
i think we need better in the top 6 and that 3rd line sounds good...
- SabresFaninIndiana


My ideal acquisition this year is Mangiapane from Calgary. Maybe Montour + Asplund can get that done

Bonino has one year left on his deal, maybe he could be had for a 2nd rounder in 2021 and we can give him an additional 2 years on his deal.

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Skinner-Bonino-Mangiapane
Mojo-Cozens-Kahun
Thompson-Larsson-Okposo
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 17 @ 12:01 PM ET
Well, consider the facts.

Eichel and his line were generally the only ones consistently scoring. If Eichel wasn't scoring, the Sabres had little chance of winning.

Eichel dominated at home and got absolutely stuffed on the road.

There's ways to prove your theory, but it sure as poop can't be simply coincidence.

- TheSabresTaco

home: 35 gm 26g 23a 49pts
road: 30 gm 10g 19a 29pts

road win: 10gm 3g 9a 12ptw
road loss: 19gm 6g 6a 12 pts
ot loss: 4gm 1g 4a 5 pts

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 17 @ 12:16 PM ET
I’m not sure you will be able to swing two Samson level rw’s.

89s info is interesting and locks down the rw spot for Monte....

Now you have Risto, picks, and prospects to fix 2c.

- Gr8daygo


Maybe you don't need it. Sam for Domi, Risto for Copp. Sign Craig Smith

Olo-Eichel-Smith
Skinner-Domi-Mojo
Kahun-Copp-Cozens
Assorted Larrys

Is it perfect? No. I think it's better though. And the D is still fine (or as fine as it was)
sabrerob
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 10.13.2006

Aug 17 @ 12:29 PM ET
Pach,

The only way to describe your blogs vs the competition (in which there isn’t any) is: SOLID!

Hope you are back for a while as I enjoy your blogs. You are the best!

home: 35 gm 26g 23a 49pts
road: 30 gm 10g 19a 29pts

road win: 10gm 3g 9a 12ptw
road loss: 19gm 6g 6a 12 pts
ot loss: 4gm 1g 4a 5 pts

- Michael Pachla

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:30 PM ET
Maybe you don't need it. Sam for Domi, Risto for Copp. Sign Craig Smith

Olo-Eichel-Smith
Skinner-Domi-Mojo
Kahun-Copp-Cozens
Assorted Larrys

Is it perfect? No. I think it's better though. And the D is still fine (or as fine as it was)

- jcragcrumple


If they trade Montour and Risto they will have to bring in a veteran D who can play the PK and in the top 4. I think hopeful Sabres fans are putting too much hope on Joker and Dahlin to be solid defensively, especially against top talent. But if it gets rid of Risto for some, the flashbacks to the tank back end be damned, especially with not exactly world beaters in net.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 17 @ 12:39 PM ET
If they trade Montour and Risto they will have to bring in a veteran D who can play the PK and in the top 4. I think hopeful Sabres fans are putting too much hope on Joker and Dahlin to be solid defensively, especially against top talent. But if it gets rid of Risto for some, the flashbacks to the tank back end be damned, especially with not exactly world beaters in net.
- GilPerreault11


With that plan, it would just be Risto leaving. I understand some people have hesitancy to trade both, so this would mean re-signing Montour I guess. I'd move them both, personally. Cord cutting time
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 12:42 PM ET
Go to the youtube and fast forward to 53.40 they start talking Sabres and mention this and Kyber says " you don't go from running the Buffalo Jr Sabres to trading Jack Eichel" LOL

So, they are going to have build the team around him and not keep the same soldiers.

- GilPerreault11


You're right ....

Kypreos : The other one that I'm hearing, Mac, an I'm not telling you and I don't want Buffalo to start calling me saying I'm reporting anything, but there are some people in our inner circle that say Jack Eichel isn't happy and wouldn't mind exploring a move.


gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
With that plan, it would just be Risto leaving. I understand some people have hesitancy to trade both, so this would mean re-signing Montour I guess. I'd move them both, personally. Cord cutting time
- jcragcrumple


I think both will be gone
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
With that plan, it would just be Risto leaving. I understand some people have hesitancy to trade both, so this would mean re-signing Montour I guess. I'd move them both. Cord cutting time
- jcragcrumple


I haven't seen a heck of a lot of plans of keeping Montour and more and more with trading them both and just building up the forwards which has me scathing my head and being thankful that none of us are the GM.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 17 @ 12:44 PM ET
The sabres pretty much have to go all in this year ...

And that's exciting lol
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