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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Possible answers to Buffalo's No. 2 C quandary, choice #1--Anthony Cirelli
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
Why would you wait 2 years? Hes nhl ready
- gerbe75pts


So was Bo Byram. O wait..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
Says who? Even so, it's exceptionally rare for an 18 year old defenseman to make a true impact. Even Dahlin was pure offense year one and Dahlin blows Drysdale out of the water.
- TheSabresTaco


He could make a impact like cam did with ducks ... But I would still do the trade because then you can focus on getting him Partner
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
So was Bo Byram. O wait..
- SDSabre


Who said he was ready ? oilers really didn't Rush him
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
Leafs want to sign Larsson...

Oh no lol
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Cirelli for Jokiharju. Who says no
- TheSabresTaco


That is an easy no for Tampa.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
Who said he was ready ? oilers really didn't Rush him
- gerbe75pts


Why would the Oilers have any say about a Col prospects? And yes, he was classified as “NHL ready”
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
Leafs want to sign Larsson...

Oh no lol

- gerbe75pts


Then the Leafs will make it to the ECF and it will be due to their “playoff experience” and finally getting over the hump.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
"I like Johan Larsson and Zemgus Girgensons. I really do. I dont think they've done anything wrong. I liked their line this past year. And I don’t want them back. I think it's time to move on from guys who have lost, and lost, and lost, and lost and lost."

- Pham on the instigators.

Shoot it directly into my veins
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 18 @ 12:08 PM ET
"I like Johan Larsson and Zemgus Girgensons. I really do. I dont think they've done anything wrong. I liked their line this past year. And I don’t want them back. I think it's time to move on from guys who have lost, and lost, and lost, and lost and lost."

- Pham on the instigators.

Shoot it directly into my veins

- jcragcrumple

i wouldnt be against them if their contracts were for 1.5 mil.. 1 on 4th line and the other can be the extra player.. but we need to be better on the 2nd and third line
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 18 @ 12:14 PM ET
"I like Johan Larsson and Zemgus Girgensons. I really do. I dont think they've done anything wrong. I liked their line this past year. And I don’t want them back. I think it's time to move on from guys who have lost, and lost, and lost, and lost and lost."

- Pham on the instigators.

Shoot it directly into my veins

- jcragcrumple


Give me some of that but fourth liners who have lost, and lost, and lost won't get it done. Dabble a little higher and start to paint this team differently.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:16 PM ET
i wouldnt be against them if their contracts were for 1.5 mil.. 1 on 4th line and the other can be the extra player.. but we need to be better on the 2nd and third line
- SabresFaninIndiana


I'd much rather bring in 2 middle-6 centers and let Cozens get his feet wet centering Asplund and Okposo on the 4th line.

The entire 1130 segment was just about the stale roster and the need to bring in fresh faces. It's worth a listen.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 12:16 PM ET
Why would the Oilers have any say about a Col prospects? And yes, he was classified as “NHL ready”
- SDSabre


Was thinking about someone else
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 12:21 PM ET
I'd much rather bring in 2 middle-6 centers and let Cozens get his feet wet centering Asplund and Okposo on the 4th line.

The entire 1130 segment was just about the stale roster and the need to bring in fresh faces. It's worth a listen.

- jcragcrumple


Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:23 PM ET
"I like Johan Larsson and Zemgus Girgensons. I really do. I dont think they've done anything wrong. I liked their line this past year. And I don’t want them back. I think it's time to move on from guys who have lost, and lost, and lost, and lost and lost."

- Pham on the instigators.

Shoot it directly into my veins

- jcragcrumple


Maybe I'm remembering poorly, but isn't he your mortal enemy?

Enemy of your enemy?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:25 PM ET

- gerbe75pts


Sure I am. He'll get his shot in the top 6 eventually. Put him on the 2nd PP and give him 4th line minutes. There will be injuries and he'll play higher up the lineup eventually.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
Maybe I'm remembering poorly, but isn't he your mortal enemy?

Enemy of your enemy?

- Lunaion


Pham?

I called him out for making poop up about the Sabres not getting Antipin a translator and then not retracting what he said.

He's right about Larry fatigue
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
Sure I am. He'll get his shot in the top 6 eventually. Put him on the 2nd PP and give him 4th line minutes. There will be injuries and he'll play higher up the lineup eventually.
- jcragcrumple

easier said than done.. get two centers that are of 2nd and 3rd line quality is not an easy task in one summer with a GM who ruined your secondary rink by for getting to do one of his more important tasks.. but who knows
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Sure I am. He'll get his shot in the top 6 eventually. Put him on the 2nd PP and give him 4th line minutes. There will be injuries and he'll play higher up the lineup eventually.
- jcragcrumple


I dont want him in the 4th line at all that be a waste imo

3rd line sure
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:38 PM ET
Pham?

I called him out for making poop up about the Sabres not getting Antipin a translator and then not retracting what he said.

He's right about Larry fatigue

- jcragcrumple


Seemed like it ran a lot deeper than that.

I think he makes a very good point about Larrys, that extends to a lot of other guys.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
easier said than done.. get two centers that are of 2nd and 3rd line quality is not an easy task in one summer with a GM who ruined your secondary rink by for getting to do one of his more important tasks.. but who knows
- SabresFaninIndiana


So a Larry in hand is worth two in the bush
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
If the Sabres don't win this year do they blow the whole thing up especially if Jack wants out?

Besides Jack blowing it up will be like setting off a few firecrackers anyway they don't have much besides Dahlin.

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
easier said than done.. get two centers that are of 2nd and 3rd line quality is not an easy task in one summer with a GM who ruined your secondary rink by for getting to do one of his more important tasks.. but who knows
- SabresFaninIndiana


People are way to hung up on specifying a center is a 2nd line or 3rd line fit.

That's a way to set yourself up to be disappointed.

The realistic targets are all 3rd line quality (Henrique, Copp, etc.), but the point is that getting two quality, real centers and putting them in the middle of the 2nd and 3rd lines would go a long, long way towards improving the on ice product instead of waiting on hopes and dreams like has been the case the past 2 seasons.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 18 @ 12:53 PM ET
If the Sabres don't win this year do they blow the whole thing up especially if Jack wants out?

Besides Jack blowing it up will be like setting off a few firecrackers anyway they don't have much besides Dahlin.

- GilPerreault11


What's there to blow up? They don't even have 2 lines of offense!

This all lands on the Pegulas. They fired Regier and George McFly and had a plan. They brought in LaFontaine and Ted Nolan.

They should have listened to LaFontaine, and let him have the reigns.

Now it's let's just throw darts at a board for a GM and HC...






Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
People are way to hung up on specifying a center is a 2nd line or 3rd line fit.

That's a way to set yourself up to be disappointed.

The realistic targets are all 3rd line quality (Henrique, Copp, etc.), but the point is that getting two quality, real centers and putting them in the middle of the 2nd and 3rd lines would go a long, long way towards improving the on ice product instead of waiting on hopes and dreams like has been the case the past 2 seasons.

- kingcong39


I think even looking at it in terms of 2nd line or 3rd line or 2nd pair or 3rd pair on the backend is a old way of thinking.

Ice times and in game situations call for different players at different times. Some players should be used in offensive situations, others in defensive situations.

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
If the Sabres don't win this year do they blow the whole thing up especially if Jack wants out?

Besides Jack blowing it up will be like setting off a few firecrackers anyway they don't have much besides Dahlin.

- GilPerreault11


Yes you trade jack for Raty +
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