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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 19 @ 4:07 PM ET
Now we're talking.

Jost and Zadarov was painful to envision.

- RhinoFan


Probably have to swap for Asplund for Mitts. But I’d still do it.

I honestly think Thompson is going to prove he belongs this year and I’d like to hold on to him.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
Colorado Avalanche Should Trade for Sam Reinhart

https://lastwordonhockey....d-trade-for-sam-reinhart/

- gerbe75pts


Lol jost and Zads don’t get it done. They say it’s like ROR trade in reverse.. no thanks if that’s your top offer
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:14 PM ET
Probably have to swap for Asplund for Mitts. But I’d still do it.

I honestly think Thompson is going to prove he belongs this year and I’d like to hold on to him.

- Pegullaville


I don't think there will be room for the Giraffe
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 19 @ 4:19 PM ET
Probably have to swap for Asplund for Mitts. But I’d still do it.

I honestly think Thompson is going to prove he belongs this year and I’d like to hold on to him.

- Pegullaville


I'm excited to see what he can do. Such an enigma. He will make some great play or rip one in from the top of the circle, then do that pirouette at the net mouth ending with a shot below the goal line.

Truly hope you're right. The talent is there, just have to turn the light switch on somehow.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
I would trade a 3rd for jost thats about it
- gerbe75pts


That's fair, maybe a 2nd. He just hasn't panned out.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
That's fair, maybe a 2nd. He just hasn't panned out.
- RhinoFan

He's not worth a 2nd imo ..
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.c...easons-players-stats.html

65th best scorer up front the last 3 years in the entire nhl



trash player
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'm excited to see what he can do. Such an enigma. He will make some great play or rip one in from the top of the circle, then do that pirouette at the net mouth ending with a shot below the goal line.

Truly hope you're right. The talent is there, just have to turn the light switch on somehow.

- RhinoFan


I know a player that can Finish a spin move
https://youtu.be/b516l0oIuGw
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:30 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-3-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

65th best scorer up front the last 3 years in the entire nhl



trash player

- homiedclown


Wow he's with Reilly Smith, David Perron

Pay the man
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 19 @ 4:32 PM ET
“Remember that time Brayden Point was an elite CHL player in his draft year yet inexplicable fell to the 3rd round?

That year, the next closest U18 WHL scorer was Jake Virtanen. He trailed Point by 20 points.“- Cam Robinson



It’s because he’s small and doesn’t hit people Cam Duhhhhh.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 19 @ 4:34 PM ET
Wow he's with Reilly Smith, David Perron

Pay the man

- gerbe75pts

trash man


I mean given there is 12 teams in the nhl, he is a fringe 3rd liner
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 19 @ 4:34 PM ET
“Remember that time Brayden Point was an elite CHL player in his draft year yet inexplicable fell to the 3rd round?

That year, the next closest U18 WHL scorer was Jake Virtanen. He trailed Point by 20 points.“- Cam Robinson



It’s because he’s small and doesn’t hit people Cam Duhhhhh.

- Pegullaville

Here's something crazier, he was viewed as an average skater his draft year. Worked on his skating post draft and it's one of his strong suits.

If guys can produce, draft them.

Are old blogger did some research on twitter, and if the Sabres made draft picks solely based on primary production, we'd have Point and another top 9 player I can't remember as opposed to the poop we got in 2014
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
trash man


I mean given there is 12 teams in the nhl, he is a fringe 3rd liner

- homiedclown


He's 65 give me a break he was the first Forward taken and you're defending him at 65

Ok
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 19 @ 4:37 PM ET
He's 65 give me a break he was the first Forward taken and you're defending him at 65

Ok

- gerbe75pts

31 times 3 is?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 19 @ 4:38 PM ET
he was the first Forward taken

Ok

- gerbe75pts

hence the name skunk


cause of haters like you
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:39 PM ET
Oh hes also with Joshua Bailey

Pay the man
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
60
65
60 (on pace for this year, his last 3 seasons.

He is a 60-70 points player.

- ImThatGuy


I'll be that guy.
He looks like a 60-65 point player.

A while ago, I was told a 59 point player wasn't hit a 60 point player.

Details, details...sticklers for details here!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-3-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

65th best scorer up front the last 3 years in the entire nhl



trash player

- homiedclown

And it says 69
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 19 @ 4:47 PM ET
Here's something crazier, he was viewed as an average skater his draft year. Worked on his skating post draft and it's one of his strong suits.

If guys can produce, draft them.

Are old blogger did some research on twitter, and if the Sabres made draft picks solely based on primary production, we'd have Point and another top 9 player I can't remember as opposed to the poop we got in 2014

- sbroads24


Connor Garland and Gaudreau are another two examples of players who fell due to size concerns.

I honestly can’t remember what the name of the article was because I read it months ago, however most players that bust or are “overdrafted” are bigger players.

Whereas small players (especially Europeans) are usually the ones that outperform their draft positions. [/img]
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 4:49 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-3-nhl-seasons-players-stats.html

65th best scorer up front the last 3 years in the entire nhl



trash player

- homiedclown


How buffalo sports fans work.

Dude is trash and not worth it, he'd be garbage without Jack.

SO we should trade him then for middling picks and prospects.

What no, hes at least worth a 2nd line center and probably more.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
And it says 69
- gerbe75pts


So in the last 3 years, hes playing at first line production?



Also, 69...... NICE!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
Wow he's with Reilly Smith, David Perron

Pay the man

- gerbe75pts


This is called selective stats to fit your narrative.

You failed to say also there are players like
Filip Forsberg
Matt Duchene
Piere Luc-Dubois
David Kreijci(SP?)
Travis Koneceny
Alex DeBrincat

so pay the man?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
31 times 3 is?
- homiedclown


Sam Reinhart more points last 3 years than everyone's favorite, Rickard Rakell....

We have to have Rakell though and Reinhart is garbage.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
Sam Reinhart more points last 3 years than everyone's favorite, Rickard Rakell....

We have to have Rakell though and Reinhart is garbage.

- ImThatGuy


Depends on how much money he wants. Like you said, you can rattle off several names that can score 55-60 points.

More so playing with Eichel
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
They have plenty of options that don't include being forced into a 1 year deal with Reinhart, and they will never offer him a 2 year deal, as that would be abject stupidity.

As Lunaion put it, there's a ton of risk if he goes the year to year route. It's why they have such a low likelihood on the 1 year deal.

All of the above is why I've believed for a while that they are trading Reinhart this offseason.

- kingcong39


I hope so too.
Gerbe's link above...send him to Colorado for Bowen Byrum and Alex Newhook

BTW, Arb may be forced on the Sabres, not that I suggested Sabres would offer the 2 year deal...it was listed, I merely picked the one I would select If I were Sam...and suggested Sam could get the 2 years by using Arb. I stand by it.
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