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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Possible answers to Buffalo's No. 2 C quandary, choice #1--Anthony Cirelli
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:01 PM ET
Bryam and Newhook for Reinhart and Asplund
- Pegullaville

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
This goddamn heat is killing me
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
31 times 3 is?
- homiedclown


I'll take
"What's not worth $7m to the Sabres"
For 20m Alex.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 5:12 PM ET
I hope so too.
Gerbe's link above...send him to Colorado for Bowen Byrum and Alex Newhook

BTW, Arb may be forced on the Sabres, not that I suggested Sabres would offer the 2 year deal...it was listed, I merely picked the one I would select If I were Sam...and suggested Sam could get the 2 years by using Arb. I stand by it.

- IonSabres


SO Reinhart.

Terrible, not even worth 7 million dollar hockey player.

Colorado is going to trade their #1 and #2 prospect for him?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
Sam Reinhart more points last 3 years than everyone's favorite, Rickard Rakell....

We have to have Rakell though and Reinhart is garbage.

- ImThatGuy


Well, both at $3.65m-sh. Sam is a better producer, no doubt.
Yet, that valuecequation flips when Sam is at $7m producing 60 points, IMO of course.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
This goddamn heat is killing me
- SABRES 89


Obviously not.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
Well, both at $3.65m-sh. Sam is a better producer, no doubt.
Yet, that valuecequation flips when Sam is at $7m producing 60 points, IMO of course.

- IonSabres


Rakell at 27, Sam is 24

Rakell will need a new deal at 29, in which you are paying a guy on the downside of his career probably 6+ million a year.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
SO Reinhart.

Terrible, not even worth 7 million dollar hockey player.

Colorado is going to trade their #1 and #2 prospect for him?

- ImThatGuy


I don't know. They are in win now mode and was suggested in the article that Sam should be the target. If they are seeking him, then gotta pay. I suspect Sabres may need to add a bit however.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 19 @ 5:23 PM ET
This is called selective stats to fit your narrative.

You failed to say also there are players like
Filip Forsberg
Matt Duchene
Piere Luc-Dubois
David Kreijci(SP?)
Travis Koneceny
Alex DeBrincat

so pay the man?

- ImThatGuy




26.5 mil for their top three forwards. Looks good, Reinhart 50.8 pt average over the last 5 years and he does not play a complete game or battle, he does tip on the PP, does not kill penalties. Trouble skating and creating on his own. If he wasn't with Jack that average of 50.8 would no doubt be less and be in the low 40's and people want to give him his money, 7-7.5
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 5:50 PM ET
How buffalo sports fans work.

Dude is trash and not worth it, he'd be garbage without Jack.

SO we should trade him then for middling picks and prospects.

What no, hes at least worth a 2nd line center and probably more.

- ImThatGuy


In package sure ... .. I still would like to know from the brain trust if Sam's not on team what happens ?

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 19 @ 5:50 PM ET
Bryam and Newhook for Reinhart and Asplund
- Pegullaville


Is there a drunk, high, angry admin answering the phone for Sakic and saying yes without his knowledge to the deal above?

I ask because it seems quite unlikely the Avalanche would trade Byram and Newhook for Reinhart and then pay Reinhart what he will cost.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
Sam Reinhart more points last 3 years than everyone's favorite, Rickard Rakell....

We have to have Rakell though and Reinhart is garbage.

- ImThatGuy


The idea is to get prospects back having Rakell you get your free 50 Points plus maybe more goals and you flip him later on
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
Is there a drunk, high, angry admin answering the phone for Sakic and saying yes without his knowledge to the deal above?

I ask because it seems quite unlikely the Avalanche would trade Byram and Newhook for Reinhart and then pay Reinhart what he will cost.

- kingcong39


Just throw In cool as beans Ryan Johnson lol
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
If sam was a center Have no problem paying him but .... He lied to us all and hes a 50 pt winger
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 19 @ 6:02 PM ET
How buffalo sports fans work.

Dude is trash and not worth it, he'd be garbage without Jack.

SO we should trade him then for middling picks and prospects.

What no, hes at least worth a 2nd line center and probably more.

- ImThatGuy


Sabres fans hump their players like dogs hump legs see Homie's and your posts for evidence.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
He's 65 give me a break he was the first Forward taken and you're defending him at 65

Ok

- gerbe75pts


11th in games played, 2 off the lead. Expected him to be higher in points.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 19 @ 6:05 PM ET
If sam was a center Have no problem paying him but .... He lied to us all and hes a 50 pt winger
- gerbe75pts


He didn't lie he just wasn't good enough to be a center even with that cerebral mind that we are all still waiting to see on a regular basis.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 6:08 PM ET
Rakell at 27, Sam is 24

Rakell will need a new deal at 29, in which you are paying a guy on the downside of his career probably 6+ million a year.

- ImThatGuy


If I recall correctly, that trade was:
Sam and Risto
For
2020's 6-OA, Henrique, Rakell, Terry (to more properly balance the $'s I would guess)

Money out, with Sam signed at $6.75 say is $12.15m
Money in is around $10.5m

In the big picture of securing a 2C and backfilling for the trade chip, Sam in this case, the trade does a reasonably good job of hiting its' objective.

In 2 years, who knows what Rakell's value will be ... $5m, $6m, $7m? Maybe they pay, maybe they don't. What will his trade value be? They could sell him off, especially if they draft say Rossi and Holtz with 6th and 8th who might be good and ready to show what they have at wing by then.

The big takeaway is they would have accomp,ished the objective reasonably well for 2 years, and provided themselves with options.

I fail to see why this rankles your jimmies.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 6:12 PM ET
Is there a drunk, high, angry admin answering the phone for Sakic and saying yes without his knowledge to the deal above?

I ask because it seems quite unlikely the Avalanche would trade Byram and Newhook for Reinhart and then pay Reinhart what he will cost.

- kingcong39


Yes.
And she is a complete slut. She has been admonished for her dress habits as well.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 6:15 PM ET
If I recall correctly, that trade was:
Sam and Risto
For
2020's 6-OA, Henrique, Rakell, Terry (to more properly balance the $'s I would guess)

Money out, with Sam signed at $6.75 say is $12.15m
Money in is around $10.5m

In the big picture of securing a 2C and backfilling for the trade chip, Sam in this case, the trade does a reasonably good job of hiting its' objective.

In 2 years, who knows what Rakell's value will be ... $5m, $6m, $7m? Maybe they pay, maybe they don't. What will his trade value be? They could sell him off, especially if they draft say Rossi and Holtz with 6th and 8th who might be good and ready to show what they have at wing by then.

The big takeaway is they would have accomp,ished the objective reasonably well for 2 years, and provided themselves with options.

I fail to see why this rankles your jimmies.

- IonSabres


Idk Some people think Sam is the best thing since sliced bread if you can put a package together that will bring us future Assets plus a player that will get the same amount of points why not do it?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 6:17 PM ET
The thing with Rakell you can put him at rw with jack or try him at center a Position he used to play if it works
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 19 @ 6:18 PM ET
Yes.
And she is a complete slut. She has been admonished for her dress habits as well.

- IonSabres


I actually assumed the admin was a he.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 6:21 PM ET
Then buffalo can draft Drysdale and Lundell

Or Drysdale and Rossi

Or trade pick 8th for 9th , 2nd so wild get Lundell and we get Rossi
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 19 @ 6:29 PM ET
Rumors .... rumors ...fun rumors! Lol

Hfb ....

A poster over at Sabrespace says he's got a source that told him some Sabres trade news. He was right on breaking the news that Botterill was gone, but even so, take it for what it is. Rumors:

-Sabres are looking to trade for a 2C and top 6 winger from a team which made the field of 24.
- Reinhart may be going the other way.
- Poster said he would be really happy with the trade
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 6:31 PM ET
I actually assumed the admin was a he.
- kingcong39


It was, until HE hit on SHE and HE was fired for Sexual Misconduct in the Work Place.
SHE was then promoted...but still very angry at Sakic, and has taken to drinking rather aggressively to try to settle herself down..but it makes her even more trashy.

Do try to keep up.
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