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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Aug 18 @ 8:14 PM ET

Voracek does not have good hands actually. Very good possession guy, but you rarely see him in the shootout, or score goals. That's why.

- PT21



I dunno if I can agree with the Jake doesnt have good hands..

The fact that you said he is a very good possession guy pretty contradicts that statement.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
I find Voracek's hands are great... his decision making sometimes counteracts those good hands though. I find he often tries that one final move that really wasn't there.

(Yes, I know that those who handle the puck will also turn it over more)

- fishbulb


No doubt he some times forces passes that aren't there and passes when he should shoot but like you said, that's about decision making. To state that he doesn't have good hands is just really laughably ignorant.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
I dunno if I can agree with the Jake doesnt have good hands..

The fact that you said he is a very good possession guy pretty contradicts that statement.

- opeth_pa


He doesn't get that.
Jup16
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.18.2020

Aug 18 @ 8:19 PM ET
No doubt he some times he forces passes that aren't there and passes when he should shoot but like you said, that's about decision making. To state that he doesn't have good hands is just really laughably ignorant.
- MJL


Jake is super gifted. Is a top player on every team in the nhl. He’s also a guy that makes a boneheaded play usually turn overs. We all say “jake stinks” During the course of a season and he always seems to get a goal or do something pretty filthy right after you say it. You take the good with the bad.... but bad hands 🤔 there’s plenty of good hands moments on YouTube...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 18 @ 8:20 PM ET
Watching the Isles/Caps. The Isles are playing well, but the Caps are playing like a team that can’t wait to go home. Hopefully this series makes the Isles over confident
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
Jake is super gifted. Is a top player on every team in the nhl. He’s also a guy that makes a boneheaded play usually turn overs. We all say “jake stinks” During the course of a season and he always seems to get a goal or do something pretty filthy right after you say it. You take the good with the bad.... but bad hands 🤔 there’s plenty of good hands moments on YouTube...
- Jup16


Early next season if he remains a Flyer, Voracek will move into the top 5 all time in assists for the Flyers passing Mark Recchi. Not bad for a guy that doesn't have good hands.
Jup16
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.18.2020

Aug 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
Haha best quote I’ve heard yet. “The Canadiens have developed such an appreciation for Carter Hart they put his initials in their logo”
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
looks like the Isles next round
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Aug 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
Watching the Isles/Caps. The Isles are playing well, but the Caps are playing like a team that can’t wait to go home. Hopefully this series makes the Isles over confident
- BiggE


Gudas gone...














gone golfing. 🏌️
Jup16
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.18.2020

Aug 18 @ 8:53 PM ET
Gudas gone...


That might be my favorite trade in my entire flyers memory bank











gone golfing. 🏌️

- Bendecko
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 18 @ 8:58 PM ET
Haha best quote I’ve heard yet. “The Canadiens have developed such an appreciation for Carter Hart they put his initials in their logo”
- Jup16

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 18 @ 9:00 PM ET
looks like the Isles next round
- KINGKENZO


1. Don't count your chickens..

2. Against the Isles, we lost 3 out of 3, while giving up 5 goals a game.

3. Fuuuuck! Another bad match-up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:02 PM ET
1. Don't count your chickens..

2. Against the Isles, we lost 3 out of 3, while giving up 5 goals a game.

3. Fuuuuck! Another bad match-up.

- PT21


I understand your thinking. The current bad match-up isn't working out so good.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 18 @ 9:04 PM ET
Watching the Isles/Caps. The Isles are playing well, but the Caps are playing like a team that can’t wait to go home. Hopefully this series makes the Isles over confident
- BiggE

Three things I’m thankful that the Islanders do not have...

1) Shea Weber

2) Carey Price

3) I don’t remember them being crazy fast
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
Three things I’m thankful that the Islanders do not have...

1) Shea Weber

2) Carey Price

3) I don’t remember them being crazy fast

- SuperSchennBros


3 things I am scared of:

1. Matthew Barzal

2. Isles are red hot right now.

3. Matthew Barzal



Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:22 PM ET
Three things I’m thankful that the Islanders do not have...

1) Shea Weber

2) Carey Price

3) I don’t remember them being crazy fast

- SuperSchennBros


There are no easy paths if we move on. I’d rather the isles than Boston or Tampa.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 18 @ 9:23 PM ET
There are no easy paths if we move on. I’d rather the isles than Boston or Tampa.
- Hextall271

I’d rather Boston or Tampa right now than the Islanders, who gave us fits all season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:24 PM ET
There are no easy paths if we move on. I’d rather the isles than Boston or Tampa.
- Hextall271


It's just all bad match ups. LOL. Win or go the F home! It's the playoffs, it's not supposed to be easy!
Jup16
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.18.2020

Aug 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
Bring on the isles. Caps have horrible coaching and it’s showing. Isles haven’t had to change a thing the entire series. Let’s see how they do when they are pressured to change. One thing the flyers have done all year. Change their approach to their opponent. Same system slight tweaks.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:32 PM ET
It's just all bad match ups. LOL. Win or go the F home! It's the playoffs, it's not supposed to be easy!
- MJL


I want them to face and beat the best teams. Simple. The experience hart and the young guys are getting is invaluable. If hart continues this play and we get the vets scoring/the pp going I’ll take my chances.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
There are no easy paths if we move on. I’d rather the isles than Boston or Tampa.
- Hextall271


It may not be a bad time to play Tampa. They are Stamkos-less for now and the series against the BJ's is tighter than the score seems.

(as an aside, can I once more swoon over Seth Jones? I believe he is the best Dman in the NHL today).

And Boston is without Pasta, though not clear for how long.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
It may not be a bad time to play Tampa. They are Stamkos-less for now and the series against the BJ's is tighter than the score seems.

(as an aside, can I once more swoon over Seth Jones? I believe he is the best Dman in the NHL today).

And Boston is without Pasta, though not clear for how long.

- PT21


Play the isles and win, take on the bruins without pasta and Rask?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
Play the isles and win, take on the bruins without pasta and Rask?
- Hextall271


Oh I think Pasta will be back by then.

Halak did give up a softie yesterday.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 18 @ 9:56 PM ET

It was a great game...I really didn’t think it was boring like those Devils games of old. Defensive, tight game. Just love Hart. Thought the lines were fine and make sense in the moment. Hope NAK is okay, I didn’t know he would be out. Bunny did good. About G, I think he had Price and us completely fooled....he is finally going to....pass. In the right moment, I hope he shoots and utterly shocks some goalie when we need it most. Otherwise, darn it...SHOOT!

Btw, G has great hands and a terrific shot....really reluctant passer.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
Caps not going away yet...
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