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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
If Bo Petey JTM Marky and Hughes play their best next game I like our chances.
- VANTEL



Do you mean best as in execution or effort? Agree core must make the difference.

The Canucks need to make adjustments to PP. That was what got them here so far and failed them last game. Game 3 they could have used more but didn't get the calls like the Blues did. But were in it to win it in OT because PP was clicking. For all the talk on 5v5 and bottom 6 energy Canucks are not going to outplay the Blues there. Though they can keep pace maybe bring in a couple new bodies.

Special teams is what will get them the difference in scoring to win it.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Aug 18 @ 3:41 PM ET
I agree. I find myself bothered by individual calls but there's no way you could look back at these last 2 games and say officiating was the difference maker.

Blues keep getting better and better, Canucks only have so many gears they can shift to, no shame in being outclassed by a team with way more experience and superior depth.

- NorthNuck


I find that those things that could/should be called but aren't (interference, slew foots, charges, boarding, etc.) bleed into the 5 on 5 play, especially when they're called more tightly on the Canucks than on the Blues. It sets up a slight imbalance of what one team is more able to do than the other.

That said, the Canucks are getting outworked and ground down, and that's on them and the makeup of the team. The officiating isn't allowing ROR to simply have his way with the team. They'll get better with age and experience. Thankfully, at the end of the day, we aren't the Leafs
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Well done Carol!

I'd say be more than just worried the Oilers will continue to suck for many years.

We'll be lucky to score another goal let alone win one more game.


- LordHumungous

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Do you mean best as in execution or effort? Agree core must make the difference.

The Canucks need to make adjustments to PP. That was what got them here so far and failed them last game. Game 3 they could have used more but didn't get the calls like the Blues did. But were in it to win it in OT because PP was clicking. For all the talk on 5v5 and bottom 6 energy Canucks are not going to outplay the Blues there. Though they can keep pace maybe bring in a couple new bodies.

Special teams is what will get them the difference in scoring to win it.

- NuckUp



Not a trick question. If our top guys play their best we have a good chance.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
I find that those things that could/should be called but aren't (interference, slew foots, charges, boarding, etc.) bleed into the 5 on 5 play, especially when they're called more tightly on the Canucks than on the Blues. It sets up a slight imbalance of what one team is more able to do than the other.

That said, the Canucks are getting outworked and ground down, and that's on them and the makeup of the team. The officiating isn't allowing ROR to simply have his way with the team. They'll get better with age and experience. Thankfully, at the end of the day, we aren't the Leafs

- NewYorkNuck

Or the Oilers
WelfareWerewolf
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vernon, BC
Joined: 10.08.2015

Aug 18 @ 3:49 PM ET
Not a trick question. If our top guys play their best we have a good chance.
- VANTEL



Sorry, I know this is someone else question, but the werewolf inside is screaming!!!

Q:If our top guys play their best we have a good chance.

A:If our top guys play their best we WIN.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 18 @ 3:51 PM ET
Sorry, I know this is someone else question, but the werewolf inside is screaming!!!

Q:If our top guys play their best we have a good chance.

A:If our top guys play their best we WIN.

- WelfareWerewolf



The in depth follow up is if Canucks have best special teams they win.
Downbar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.18.2020

Aug 18 @ 3:56 PM ET
The ice quality for the late game in Edmonton seems to be much worse than for the earlier game. Pucks were bouncing over the sticks of the skilled players for Vancouver it seemed all night. This advantage is massive for the Blues. The players of course would not use it as an excuse but maybe Carol could get some comments on this from the coaches. Anybody else think that this disadvantages the Canucks more than the Blues?
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Aug 18 @ 4:05 PM ET
The ice quality for the late game in Edmonton seems to be much worse than for the earlier game. Pucks were bouncing over the sticks of the skilled players for Vancouver it seemed all night. This advantage is massive for the Blues. The players of course would not use it as an excuse but maybe Carol could get some comments on this from the coaches. Anybody else think that this disadvantages the Canucks more than the Blues?
- Downbar

do they play on different ice surfaces?

canucks have been the late game 6/8 so far. if anything they should understand its impacts and be better prepared than stlouis who i think played 0 late games before this series
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Aug 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
The ice quality for the late game in Edmonton seems to be much worse than for the earlier game. Pucks were bouncing over the sticks of the skilled players for Vancouver it seemed all night. This advantage is massive for the Blues. The players of course would not use it as an excuse but maybe Carol could get some comments on this from the coaches. Anybody else think that this disadvantages the Canucks more than the Blues?
- Downbar


Players have actually said ice quality is getting better since the beginning of the play in series. Guess they have made some adjustments to the surface and are keeping the building colder than normal.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
The ice quality for the late game in Edmonton seems to be much worse than for the earlier game. Pucks were bouncing over the sticks of the skilled players for Vancouver it seemed all night. This advantage is massive for the Blues. The players of course would not use it as an excuse but maybe Carol could get some comments on this from the coaches. Anybody else think that this disadvantages the Canucks more than the Blues?
- Downbar

They play on the same ice, no?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
do they play on different ice surfaces?

canucks have been the late game 6/8 so far. if anything they should understand its impacts and be better prepared than stlouis who i think played 0 late games before this series

- johnnykarate

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 18 @ 4:31 PM ET

- Pacificgem

lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 18 @ 4:52 PM ET
You must be feeling better. I’m flabbergasted reading such a long hockey post by you lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
I agree. I find myself bothered by individual calls but there's no way you could look back at these last 2 games and say officiating was the difference maker.

Blues keep getting better and better, Canucks only have so many gears they can shift to, no shame in being outclassed by a team with way more experience and superior depth.

- NorthNuck

I don’t like the reffing the last 3 games. I don’t blame losing on them. There are few StL non calls that were dangerous &/or dirty not called that if they were it would force the Blues to back off a bit.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
Well done Carol!

I'd say be more than just worried.

We'll be lucky to score another goal let alone win one more game.


- LordHumungous


Is this click bait for Oilers fans who's team can't win? Or for Flyer's fans who's team can barely score?

Either way its okay the Canucks will prove you both wrong as they have had time and time again.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
Not a trick question. If our top guys play their best we have a good chance.
- VANTEL

If our bottom 6 could pot a goal or bang the D etc it would help.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
Thanks Carol! Allen’s play has been the most worrying part, that and the powerplay falling off the cliff. Game 5 is going to be must watch action!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 18 @ 5:06 PM ET
The whining about reffing is a bit much ( not directed at you personally). It's seems every second or third post is someone complaining about the reffing. Good teams get past that (if it's actually true). The Canucks are facing a superior team and getting out-played. Fact. Green needs to adjust the lines to adapt to the Blues waking up and playing playoff hockey. I agree with the other posters that the young guys are looking tired & worn and that the bottom six are pretty bad. Those horrible contracts are coming back to bite them in the butt. Eriksson and Beagle need to be benched.
- Marwood

We had seven powerplays, the reffing was definitely not the issue.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 18 @ 5:06 PM ET
technically they made it this year Play in round was technically PO's but i'll give it to ya lol

Oil were comfortably in 2nd when the COVID crap overheated

Not their fault they ran into a healthy Hawks club and scored in their own net

- LordHumungous

No. Actually not technically they didn’t.
Best of 5 not 7 explains why.

Hawks showed up the Oils warts.
Sayros
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
I think it was a missed opportunity to sit Eriksson and bring in Gaudette last game. Back-to-back sit the vet, not like they were preserving a winning lineup. I get that he's usually in the right place, coach must like him but he is zero threat to score. STL figured out they don't need to cover him and just double team Bo now. This is beyond his contract hate. I've yelled at the TV multiple times now as Eriksson gets a glorious chance cause he's in the right spot, but doesn't even come close. Don't matter if you're in the right spot if you can't do anything with it. Then there's the feeble ones he puts on net that is just a turnover. If you could bet score props on him for shots he'd be a lock over 2.5. He tosses so many soft ducks.

Despite his penalties, can plainly see they miss Myers. I wouldn't have guessed how much, until he was gone. Fantenberg has done fine. Benn is too one dimensional.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
We had seven powerplays, the reffing was definitely not the issue.
- neem55

Was it in game 3 where the most criticism is from?
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Aug 18 @ 5:11 PM ET
I don’t like the reffing the last 3 games. I don’t blame losing on them. There are few StL non calls that were dangerous &/or dirty not called that if they were it would force the Blues to back off a bit.
- Nighthawk


Did you see Roussel sucker punch Blais before he even had a glove off?

Fantenberg boarding Thomas, sending him into concussion protocol?

It’s gone both ways. Blues will play their game. Vancouver would be wise to try and play theirs. When I see them running around trying to run guys and markstrom chirping the official after every whistle. That’s when you know blues have their game going.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 18 @ 5:13 PM ET
Was it in game 3 where the most criticism is from?
- Nighthawk

I don’t see how, we lost in overtime. Coin flip. Not much to criticize imo.
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