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3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:03 PM ET
Montreal played basically two periods short one of their best players and still won.
Sad.

- PLindbergh31

arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:03 PM ET
Montreal played basically two periods short one of their best players and still won.
Sad.

- PLindbergh31


This is what frustrates me the most. We had the momentum from that incident. Got two huge goals, major game swing. Then just hand it back to them. Same thing after the FaraBee goal. We gave this game to them imo
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:04 PM ET
If that is where our fait is then we are in a dangerous territory especially if none of G, Couturier , TK, or Hayes are not scoring. There should be no reason why not to insert JVR next game
- 3flyerkids

I can’t believe Jake is doing all our scoring. Mind you, best hands on the team easily but he’s not a force alone. I’m sorry, top ten center Sean Couturier needs to create offense and score and don’t get me started on our Captain.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:04 PM ET
They’ve been way too passive in the forecheck this series. Montreal has had way too many easy exits and transitions out of their end.
- Sublime55


Absolutely. Flyers need to press the attack and get on their defense. You win by attacking with the puck in this league, not by defending. When you defend more, you lose.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Aug 19 @ 11:04 PM ET
Overall a decent game. Voracek was great, Hayes had everything but the finish. Giroux has been terrible, pretty much since the restart, for what is expected from him, Konecny was awful, Braun was his usual bad, and Laughton has been terrible this whole series. Coots has been hot and cold, looked right in it tonight. Bad game for Hart, two softies, his worst game by far. The coach usually presses the right buttons, but he missed on Hart...but who wouldn’t with the shutout streak? Also, sending out Haag and Braun after tying it? Missed opportunity tonight but they need to pick themselves up and dust themselves off after an overall mediocre performance. Hart should rebound and I expect him to.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:04 PM ET
Bird, Mchale and Parish are pretty good.
- PLindbergh31


Larry Bird ain’t walking through that door
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Aug 19 @ 11:05 PM ET
I can’t believe Jake is doing all our scoring. Mind you, best hands on the team easily but he’s not a force alone. I’m sorry, top ten center Sean Couturier needs to create offense and score and don’t get me started on our Captain.
- SuperSchennBros


One of G, Coots, or Voracek have been on the ice for EVERY goal scored by the Flyers this series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:06 PM ET
Overall a decent game. Voracek was great, Hayes had everything but the finish. Giroux has been terrible, pretty much since the restart, for what is expected from him, Konecny was awful, Braun was his usual bad, and Laughton has been terrible this whole series. Coots has been hot and cold, looked right in it tonight. Bad game for Hart, two softies, his worst game by far. The coach usually presses the right buttons, but he missed on Hart...but who wouldn’t with the shutout streak? Also, sending out Haag and Braun after tying it? Missed opportunity tonight but they need to pick themselves up and dust themselves off after an overall mediocre performance. Hart should rebound and I expect him to.
- darkerens


Other than the PP, there was nothing decent about their performance tonight overall. It was underwhelming. Bad decision making, bad penalties, lack of intensity in key moments of the game and bad goaltending make for poor games.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 19 @ 11:06 PM ET
This is what frustrates me the most. We had the momentum from that incident. Got two huge goals, major game swing. Then just hand it back to them. Same thing after the FaraBee goal. We gave this game to them imo
- arichardson22



Just look at the hits to see that this was a different game.
LW2530
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone have some change?, FL
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 19 @ 11:06 PM ET
I can’t believe Jake is doing all our scoring. Mind you, best hands on the team easily but he’s not a force alone. I’m sorry, top ten center Sean Couturier needs to create offense and score and don’t get me started on our Captain.
- SuperSchennBros


Yep, whole lotta no shows. JVR needs to return, and maybe insert Frost.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:07 PM ET
They’ve been way too passive in the forecheck this series. Montreal has had way too many easy exits and transitions out of their end.
- Sublime55

The constants within the Flyers attack game has always been the Power Play and the forcheck. The power play showed up, the forcheck is A-wall.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:08 PM ET
I can’t believe Jake is doing all our scoring. Mind you, best hands on the team easily but he’s not a force alone. I’m sorry, top ten center Sean Couturier needs to create offense and score and don’t get me started on our Captain.
- SuperSchennBros
Agree, on Jake doing the scoring. I cant believe he is the leading goal scorer in this series. Giroux had a couple assists tonight and seems to be getting a little better. Couturier has a couple tap ins this series and missed. Just seems like he is not engaged ( until the end of the game)
Where has Laughton been, he looked great during the round robin. He has not been any kind of factor . We need him forechecking .
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 19 @ 11:08 PM ET
Yep, whole lotta no shows. JVR needs to return, and maybe insert Frost.
- LW2530


No Frost will be inserted, I assure you.

50-50 on JVR. Remember we miss him the most on the pp, and we scored 3 goals there today.

Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:09 PM ET
Well he is our lord and savior.
- SuperSchennBros


First pp did pretty well tonight. Seems like the right move to me putting them out there at that moment. You might have an argument for putting Hayes at the other point rather than Niskanen, but I don’t think that’s where he’s really most effective.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:09 PM ET
One of G, Coots, or Voracek have been on the ice for EVERY goal scored by the Flyers this series.
- BenderRodriguez

Oh well I’m sure the Ghost of Fred Shero was out there too. That’s all that matters, the fact they were standing out there.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:09 PM ET
Which Flyers forward led the Flyers in ES ice time in game 4?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:10 PM ET
Overall a decent game. Voracek was great, Hayes had everything but the finish. Giroux has been terrible, pretty much since the restart, for what is expected from him, Konecny was awful, Braun was his usual bad, and Laughton has been terrible this whole series. Coots has been hot and cold, looked right in it tonight. Bad game for Hart, two softies, his worst game by far. The coach usually presses the right buttons, but he missed on Hart...but who wouldn’t with the shutout streak? Also, sending out Haag and Braun after tying it? Missed opportunity tonight but they need to pick themselves up and dust themselves off after an overall mediocre performance. Hart should rebound and I expect him to.
- darkerens

Sending out Hagg and Braun ok, sending them Out with the Thompson line big mistake. But AV has pushed a lot of right buttons to date. Still a young team they need to learn to close it out
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:11 PM ET
First pp did pretty well tonight. Seems like the right move to me putting them out there at that moment. You might have an argument for putting Hayes at the other point rather than Niskanen, but I don’t think that’s where he’s really most effective.
- Dkos

I don’t dislike Joel Farabee. He has a promising future but the situation the Flyers are in, I trust the experience for the small details.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Aug 19 @ 11:12 PM ET
Other than the PP, there was nothing decent about their performance tonight overall. It was underwhelming. Bad decision making, bad penalties, lack of intensity in key moments of the game and bad goaltending make for poor games.
- MJL


We had premium looks and chances, just didn’t finish. That coupled with a weak game by Hart’s standards equals a loss. Not the end of the world. I would have tried Frost tonight, with the series 3-1 lead, to see what he could do...but he is a huge defensive liability. Probably not going in now, in this series anyway.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:13 PM ET
Sending out Hagg and Braun ok, sending them Out with the Thompson line big mistake. But AV has pushed a lot of right buttons to date. Still a young team they need to learn to close it out
- wcorvette


Flyers were just coming off of a PP. Pretty typical to send out your veteran top line in that situation. Players need to play.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 19 @ 11:13 PM ET
Agree, on Jake doing the scoring. I cant believe he is the leading goal scorer in this series. Giroux had a couple assists tonight and seems to be getting a little better. Couturier has a couple tap ins this series and missed. Just seems like he is not engaged ( until the end of the game)
Where has Laughton been, he looked great during the round robin. He has not been any kind of factor . We need him forechecking .

- 3flyerkids

Just get our guys in position and doing what they do best. Let’s simplify things.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:14 PM ET
We had premium looks and chances, just didn’t finish. That coupled with a weak game by Hart’s standards equals a loss. Not the end of the world. I would have tried Frost tonight, with the series 3-1 lead, to see what he could do...but he is a huge defensive liability. Probably not going in now, in this series anyway.
- darkerens


When is the last time Frost played an NHL game? When he did, he looked okay but not ready. Why is he ready now?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:15 PM ET
I don’t dislike Joel Farabee. He has a promising future but the situation the Flyers are in, I trust the experience for the small details.
- SuperSchennBros


Plenty of experience on the ice at the time. I just don’t see who else you’d want out there instead of him. Maybe TK if he wasn’t playing like hot garbage?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:18 PM ET
Flyers were just coming off of a PP. Pretty typical to send out your veteran top line in that situation. Players need to play.
- MJL

M
While I agree that line was not doing well all night. Then add the 3rd D pair and you got what you got. The Habs were pushing all night, they had no give up, my opinion it was the wrong call
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 11:18 PM ET
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