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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 20 @ 7:37 PM ET

- Pat1993



I see chirps emanating from various directions, but the roach is not moving.

Is that Gallagher's invisible jaw again?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:38 PM ET
I see chirps emanating from various directions, but the roach is not moving.

Is that Gallagher's invisible jaw again?

- PT21


ohh, right, the guy that can't tell inches from millimeters is giving me a lesson
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 7:40 PM ET
the phillies are a disaster
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 7:41 PM ET
ohh, right, the guy that can't tell inches from millimeters is giving me a lesson

- Pat1993

sorry we don't identify as a british colony
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 20 @ 7:42 PM ET
the phillies are a disaster
- 2Real

Team can’t draft for poop. Especially pitching.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:43 PM ET
sorry we're don't identify as a british colony
- 2Real




nope, English is definitely not your cup of tea
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 20 @ 8:01 PM ET
For niskanen. He didn’t target the head on purpose. Gallagher was turning and bent over. I would not want a suspension for any player for that. Just unfortunate. I think Weber pushing a player over with a free and to the face is worse. If there’s no blood it’s probably not viewed the same. And I get it. He was hit descent with the butt end. Happens so fast in game. I’ve seen more blatant face shots not reviewed. Just don’t like the inconsistency.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:02 PM ET
ohh, right, the guy that can't tell inches from millimeters is giving me a lesson

- Pat1993


I don't see any lessons. I asked two questions.

Whether you are over 14 and why those chirps were from all around but not the roach.

You laughed at both.

I can see why for the former. Admitting you are would simply confirm what is apparent. That you are an imbecile.

But I have it. That picture is you, your lifespan is 160 days, and that would make you an imbecile ventriloquist roach?

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 20 @ 8:03 PM ET
nope, English is definitely not your cup of tea
- Pat1993


The tea was dumped long ago by the B’s.


2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:03 PM ET
nope, English is definitely not your cup of tea
- Pat1993

thanks for pointing out a typo
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:04 PM ET
I don't see any lessons. I asked two questions.

Whether you are over 14 and why those chirps were from all around but not the roach.

You laughed at both.

I can see why for the former. Admitting you are would simply confirm what is apparent. That you are an imbecile.

But I have it. That picture is you, your lifespan is 160 days, and that would make you an imbecile ventriloquist roach?

- PT21





to be honest sir, I don't get the insults, and they're pretty lame... I told you numerous times we weren't going to agree, but you continued to argue with your stupid (sorry but it is) theory of inches and the glove hiding stuff or whatever...

this is still fun though
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:05 PM ET
thanks for pointing out a typo
- 2Real


ironic considering you were talking about British colonies, and frogs... not very original material when it's centuries old
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:09 PM ET


to be honest sir, I don't get the insults, and they're pretty lame... I told you numerous times we weren't going to agree, but you continued to argue with your stupid (sorry but it is) theory of inches and the glove hiding stuff or whatever...

this is still fun though

- Pat1993


If you don't get the insults, how do you know they are lame?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Aug 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
If you don't get the insults, how do you know they are lame?
- PT21


*sigh*

I don't get them, as in I don't know why you're going there... but you're so smart, you should be able to figure this out on your own
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 20 @ 8:13 PM ET
Cheese steak is not really cheese with steak.

If it makes you feel any better, its more like ground beef with cheese on good bread, with fried onions.

- PT21



2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
ironic considering you were talking about British colonies, and frogs... not very original material when it's centuries old
- Pat1993

ok mr millimeters and inches
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
A similar thing happened with the Crosby play 3 years. Crosby was sliding and moving Nisky nailed him in the face while he was on his butt already, sliding face up.

I think the clear retribution angle will go against him here. And the previous incident. And the fact that even if he did not intend to go for the jaw, he was clearly going high.

I would say its 75-25 for suspension, not 50-50 as I suggested earlier, and I don't see either judgment being indefensible.

Of course, I hope as a fan he gets away with a fine.

- PT21


It's a 100% a suspension. When you have a hearing, you're getting suspended. It's just a question of how long.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:31 PM ET
the phillies are a disaster
- 2Real


Omg. My jays came back and won that? Wow. Both teams suck.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:33 PM ET
Oh wow. Who shot that? I assume there is just one tv feed that is being shared across the networks?

On that shot, it is pretty clear 90% of the blow falls on the right shoulder.

- PT21


LOL. You can't see the front on that shot. Gallagher didn't reach up to his shoulder. Gallagher was bloodied and had a tooth knocked loose. That's a cross check to the face.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:36 PM ET
No, I meant that to suggest intent. Makes it a bit more murky.

If you were going for head, you would not devote 90% of the impact somewhere else.

And while players "are responsible for their sticks at all times etc.", I would think it mitigates the egregiousness of it as far as suspension goes.

- PT21


It is clear from the replay that Niskanen went after Gallagher with the intent to cross check and was not in the act of playing the puck or defending.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:42 PM ET
1. No hearing scheduled for KK
2. Well, you could technically get a major, and not be ejected, if the hit is not to the face/head. I assume that's what you meant.
3. You make good points, however, Niskanen clearly aims downwards towards the head/shoulder area, needs to be responsible that the stick would not glance off and hit the head or even do it directly,and did it before to Crosby. That's a dangerous play because even before the stick starts to go down, Gallagher is well below Niskanen, and is shorter ti begin with

- PT21


The rule is when a major is called, and it results in an injury to the players head or face. Sanheim received a gash to his head, that results in an automatic game misconduct. Another example is if you board a player from behind, don't make direct contact to the face/head and an injury occurs to the player from the impact, and a major is called. That would also be a game misconduct. Automatically. It's just not about contact to the head/face.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:43 PM ET
No, I meant exactly what I said. You even posted that section of the rules. At least I think it was you.
The ejection for a MAJOR PENALTY FOR BOARDING is automatic. Not all major penalties carry auto ejection, ie fighting majors. Boarding major does. There is no double minor. Just minor penalty, major with auto ejection.

- jaws1955


Not true. You can get a major boarding penalty without a game misconduct.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yes, it was me.

And no, dude. Boarding can happen even without an injury to face or head. If that is the case (no injury to face/head), GM not automatic.

Not questioning your ref experience. I have none. But its pretty clear from the rules I posted.

Correct about everything else, except that I feel Nisky play was at best dangerous and possibly dirty. That's subjective, of course.

I was however wrong about his hit to Crosby being relevant. Apparently, since it was reviewed, and no supplemental discipline was meted out, it is not on his record and he is not technically a repeat offender.

However he did have some slashing fine earlier this year, and that is on the record.

- PT21


You were also wrong about the blow being 90% to the shoulder. Also need to brush up on the repeat offender rule.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 20 @ 8:51 PM ET
You were also wrong about the blow being 90% to the shoulder. Also need to brush up on the repeat offender rule.
- MJL


1 game.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Aug 20 @ 8:52 PM ET
Hart did not look good at all. He should have been pulled. At least 3 of the goals were weak goals. You could tell early he wasnt on his game. If AV makes the switch after the 2nd or 3rd goal, we probably make off with the win
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I say it was all your fault for betting against the Flyers.

Though SMS4016 may be more to blame for his prediction:
https://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=167715&page=6#20829493
He's always been off the mark for years and should just give up making them for good.

(/s)
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