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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 19 @ 6:55 PM ET
Carolinas been eliminated so anyone know where does our pick come in at?
- King Hen-rik Roll’d


No worse than 24. No better than 21.

Still depends on the final 4
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Aug 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
Avalanche look scary. Yotes dont want to be out there anymore.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
Jan, I almost forgot to ask...
Has there been any information given about Fast’s injury since they left the bubble?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
No worse than 24. No better than 21.

Still depends on the final 4

- jimbro83

Trade it and upgrade somewhere. Picks could be worth a fortune in this draft, teams trying to shed salary on top of it being a deep draft. Hopefully Hank retires and we can capitalize on someone trying to dump salary.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
It amazes me people are giving up on a 20 yr old who has played all of 1 3/4 seasons.
- mdw7413

It’s insane, ppl don’t realize we’re probably not going to make a deep run next year either. Wait for the calls to trade this one and that one and for Quinn to be fired. This stuff takes time, we gave up on JT Miller, how’d that work out for us.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
It’s insane, ppl don’t realize we’re probably not going to make a deep run next year either. Wait for the calls to trade this one and that one and for Quinn to be fired. This stuff takes time, we gave up on JT Miller, how’d that work out for us.
- nyrangers9479
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No reason to believe JT Miller would've gotten any more consistent in NY. He didn't improve in Tampa either. In Vancouver it seems to be working because he's an experienced veteren on a young team. Sometimes it takes a good match for a player to flourish. It's harder in NYC then most places for that to happen. Great place to play, but alot of media attention, spot lights, and distractions
Bromancer
Joined: 03.17.2011

Aug 19 @ 8:46 PM ET
Jan, I almost forgot to ask...
Has there been any information given about Fast’s injury since they left the bubble?

- Tonybere

Good question. Has been on my mind too.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 19 @ 8:47 PM ET
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No reason to believe JT Miller would've gotten any more consistent in NY. He didn't improve in Tampa either. In Vancouver it seems to be working because he's an experienced veteren on a young team. Sometimes it takes a good match for a player to flourish. It's harder in NYC then most places for that to happen. Great place to play, but alot of media attention, spot lights, and distractions

- rrentz

JT Miller was buried on the 3rd and 4th line in NY. Got no better in Tampa, played 60+ games on the 4th line. The argument against him in NY was he took dumb penalties and was lazy, at 22-23 years old you need to be able to live with that. He’s getting top 6 minutes in VAN that he should’ve been getting in NY. AV hated him.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 19 @ 9:01 PM ET
JT Miller was buried on the 3rd and 4th line in NY. Got no better in Tampa, played 60+ games on the 4th line. The argument against him in NY was he took dumb penalties and was lazy, at 22-23 years old you need to be able to live with that. He’s getting top 6 minutes in VAN that he should’ve been getting in NY. AV hated him.
- nyrangers9479


Yes, AVs fault.

Miller had opportunities on top 6 and PP, but wasn't consistent enough, mad bad decisions w/ and w/out the puck, and took dumb penalties.

Started out on Tampa's 1st line and eventually played his way down the lineup and was traded. Playing well in Vancouver, but time will tell if he sustains his play.

JT wasn't a victim..geez
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
I was reading an article saying that Kravtsov started to really improve at the end of the AHL season (away from the puck), and then in the RTP camp. I think english was a barrier, sounds like he can communicate with teammates better now.


Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:06 PM ET
Yes, AVs fault.

Miller had opportunities on top 6 and PP, but wasn't consistent enough, mad bad decisions w/ and w/out the puck, and took dumb penalties.

Started out on Tampa's 1st line and eventually played his way down the lineup and was traded. Playing well in Vancouver, but time will tell if he sustains his play.

JT wasn't a victim..geez

- rrentz


Miller’s problem was being immature. On the ice. Dumb penalties, just lazy at times and terrible defensively. Good for him. Do I miss him? Nope haha
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:26 PM ET
Yes, AVs fault.

Miller had opportunities on top 6 and PP, but wasn't consistent enough, mad bad decisions w/ and w/out the puck, and took dumb penalties.

Started out on Tampa's 1st line and eventually played his way down the lineup and was traded. Playing well in Vancouver, but time will tell if he sustains his play.

JT wasn't a victim..geez

- rrentz

He had a high of 46 PIM with the Rangers, with 10 of them being fights. That’s 36 PIM for a 23 year old. AV relied heavily on his veterans, guys like Nash Boyle Richards etc could be having the worst nights of their careers and he would roll them out there shift after shift after shift. The young guys could make 1 mistake and be stapled to the bench for half the period with Miller getting it the worst. I think it was a confidence thing with Miller caused by the coach.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
He had a high of 46 PIM with the Rangers, with 10 of them being fights. That’s 36 PIM for a 23 year old. AV relied heavily on his veterans, guys like Nash Boyle Richards etc could be having the worst nights of their careers and he would roll them out there shift after shift after shift. The young guys could make 1 mistake and be stapled to the bench for half the period with Miller getting it the worst. I think it was a confidence thing with Miller caused by the coach.
- nyrangers9479



It was a combination of a lot of things. It didn't work out. New team, New Coach, no Miller.....it's ok.

Rangers were also in win now mode, and like every other team who missed their window, they had to make some tough trades. He was one of them. Like Hayes McD, etc
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 19 @ 9:45 PM ET
He had a high of 46 PIM with the Rangers, with 10 of them being fights. That’s 36 PIM for a 23 year old. AV relied heavily on his veterans, guys like Nash Boyle Richards etc could be having the worst nights of their careers and he would roll them out there shift after shift after shift. The young guys could make 1 mistake and be stapled to the bench for half the period with Miller getting it the worst. I think it was a confidence thing with Miller caused by the coach.
- nyrangers9479


I also think Miller matured, he pretty much admitted he was a cocky kid who probably should have listened to coaches more. Look I liked Miller and he would be great to have now, but it took him 7 years to have a break out season. Sometimes it just clicks with a different team and system, who knows maybe it was a combination of everything, but good for him now having a great season. He was always a tough kid who played hard most nights, and him and Hayes were one of our best pk units ever. They used to have more scoring chances in one shift than the other teams PP unit
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:00 PM ET
I put it in the previous blog and it got ignored... Ill try again...

Lets say Florida is down to trade Barkov for the 1st overall pick. Assuming Barkov guarantees to resign (which is the only reason why this would be done), would people consider it?

- aecliptic


I don't think extensions can even be discussed until the final year of a contract which would be another year away.

That aside I would still say "no" unless it is some ridiculous discount price. Getting a player with high star potential on an ELC with cost control for at least 6 years or so over time will offset Panarin's payout. Barkov already costs 5.9M and will be an UFA probably asking for 10M+ soon
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 20 @ 12:35 AM ET
I don't think extensions can even be discussed until the final year of a contract which would be another year away.

That aside I would still say "no" unless it is some ridiculous discount price. Getting a player with high star potential on an ELC with cost control for at least 6 years or so over time will offset Panarin's payout. Barkov already costs 5.9M and will be an UFA probably asking for 10M+ soon

- Maskdman3


Can't afford to re-sign him. Gotta have home grown players as a foundation.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Aug 20 @ 3:00 AM ET
It was a combination of a lot of things. It didn't work out. New team, New Coach, no Miller.....it's ok.

Rangers were also in win now mode, and like every other team who missed their window, they had to make some tough trades. He was one of them. Like Hayes McD, etc

- rrentz


I think what sealed Millers fate in NY was his playoff performances:

40 games played only ONE goal! Now granted, he wasn't playing 20 mins a game, but you gotta produce more than that in the playoffs!
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Aug 20 @ 6:29 AM ET
Can't afford to re-sign him. Gotta have home grown players as a foundation.
- rrentz


Thats honestly one of the most ridiculous reasons why you wouldnt trade for one of the best centers in the world whos gonna be 25 in September.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:17 AM ET
Thats honestly one of the most ridiculous reasons why you wouldnt trade for one of the best centers in the world whos gonna be 25 in September.
- aecliptic


Barkov isn’t eligible to sign an extension until next July.

No way in hell the Rangers are trading their first ever first overall pick for him.

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Aug 20 @ 7:22 AM ET
Barkov isn’t eligible to sign an extension until next July.

No way in hell the Rangers are trading their first ever first overall pick for him.

- jimbro83

I don’t even think there’s any reason to talk about trading it. Now the CAR pick on the other hand is worth the conversation.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 20 @ 7:31 AM ET
I don’t even think there’s any reason to talk about trading it. Now the CAR pick on the other hand is worth the conversation.
- nyrangers9479


Oh yeah I totally see a similar use of that pick that they did last year when they traded for Trouba.

Buchnevich and that pick for a center. That kind of thing.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:31 AM ET
I'd get rid of Lemieux. He doesn't add anything we don't already have except being the target of penalty calls and he's not particularly good at anything. Keep fast
- picklerick

Rangers don't have anything like him, every team needs a Lemieux and we're not breaking the bank on him so why even bother ?
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:35 AM ET
I just don’t see Lemeuix leaving, Gorton said he wants to add physical players, not get rid of them. It’s why I think Domi is a perfect target. Physical, young, RFA, recently bumped to wing bc they have Kotkoniemi Suzuki and Danault down the middle. Get Frederic to center the 4th line and we have a more skilled, tougher team to play against.
- nyrangers9479

Didn't Lemieux screw Domi's sister?

KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:36 AM ET
Wasn't Brannstrom traded in a package for Stone? That's a big win for Vegas regardless of what the kid does.

Not every pick will pan out but you also need guys to have value so you can make an aggressive here and there. Lias offers them nothing.

- WineryDog

Ottawa has made soem good moves post Duchene fiasco, picked up Brannstrom and Norris in trades, already have Chabot, they need goaltending
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:40 AM ET
No worse than 24. No better than 21.

Still depends on the final 4

- jimbro83

Looks like 22 unless the Flames can pull out the last 2 games, if the pick isn't included in a deal I'm hoping for a Center, either one of Zary, Brisson or Khusnutdinov
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