huh..bet some Leaf fans would change thier votes now

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- senstroll

Everytime I read the Leafs thread I lose brain cells!
Kapanen is a good player and has a fair contract/term 2 x 3.2 million. He has averaged 16 goals/36 points per 82 games in 202 career games so talk of Ekblad, Morrisey etc straight up is just dumb and frankly typical of most posters on this thread. He will fetch a good player or picks in trade but not a 1st pairing Dman Cmon!
- Balboa

who said Kap for Ekblad straighht up?

Put a nicer way: people don't seem to get that good d-men come at a premium just because of low supply and obviously high demand. If the Leafs shore up their D, we ain't gonna be happy with the price that it costs in terms of Forwards going the other way.
- TheMussel

this

it’s gonna be a huge trade like greedy willi and little b!tch for jones + for example

who said Kap for Ekblad straighht up?
- senstroll

Someone who is addicted to meth?

- mjones242

Proving, that many fans and clubs for that matter, fall in love with their players leading them to overvalue guys.

I get it man. But no one has any cap space either. Who is trading a pick for Johnsson so the Leafs get cap space?
- aminnes

Wings might.

Wings might.
- gergeswillems

Ya there are a few, literally a few that might after they sign their guys have a little bit of space, but why would they spend it on a leaf player rather than holding it to gain leverage for a sought after UFA? Not a lot of teams will have money for UFAs.

Such as? The cap is fast and teams still haven't signed their FAs. Jersey?
- aminnes

Are you asking who will be budget team and not a cap team?

The Pens are a budget team next year according to every source they have. Yeah.

The rich teams of the league that drag the other 20 teams by their asses every year will be the only cap teams.

I get it man. But no one has any cap space either. Who is trading a pick for Johnsson so the Leafs get cap space?
- aminnes

They don't need to take on the full cap hit.

Plenty of deals to be made for guys with cheaper cap hits but higher salaries.

AJ for cheaper cap hit.

Proving, that many fans and clubs for that matter, fall in love with their players leading them to overvalue guys.
- aminnes

Travis *cough* Dermott.

I get it man. But no one has any cap space either. Who is trading a pick for Johnsson so the Leafs get cap space?
- aminnes

I fully expect a lot of older, higher priced players to be sent to Robidas Island this year.

I would think that benefits a cash rich team like the Leafs.

Are you asking who will be budget team and not a cap team?

The Pens are a budget team next year according to every source they have. Yeah.

The rich teams of the league that drag the other 20 teams by their asses every year will be the only cap teams.
- Santo_44

Pens are up against the cap already going into next year. Who on the Leafs has a significant cap hit but low actual dollars?

Travis *cough* Dermott.
- mjones242

Liljregren for me.

He is not a top prospect anymore.

3rd pairing is likely his ceiling...

For me he is an attractive piece to move the needle in a deal as some team might be willing to take a shot at him.

Lol @ Steve Bannon that phony banana eater

Ya there are a few, literally a few that might after they sign their guys have a little bit of space, but why would they spend it on a leaf player rather than holding it to gain leverage for a sought after UFA? Not a lot of teams will have money for UFAs.
- aminnes

I can't see UFA's desperately wanting to sign with a tire fire team like the Red Wings. Trading is a more realistic option for Yzerman.

I fully expect a lot of older, higher priced players to be sent to Robidas Island this year.

I would think that benefits a cash rich team like the Leafs.
- Leafs43

The Leafs will use the Joffrey Loophole.

Travis *cough* Dermott.
- mjones242

IMO always wait until a d man is a bit older. It takes them longer to really get good at it. It took Parayko until 25 to really hone his craft for example.

Pens are up against the cap already going into next year. Who on the Leafs has a significant cap hit but low actual dollars?
- aminnes

After SB

Matthews 700K
Tavares 900K
Marner 900K
Andersen 1M
Nylander 2.5M
Kerfoot 2.6M
Johnnson 2.6M
Kap 1.8M
Muzzin 700K
Holl 1M

The whole team.

I get it man. But no one has any cap space either. Who is trading a pick for Johnsson so the Leafs get cap space?
- aminnes

Unless they’re going after AP, I don’t see the Leafs specifically trying to trade for cap space anyway. I agree it’s a terrible market to try to do that. It’s more likely that they try to trade $s out for $s in and find $7M worth of D to replace Barrie and Ceci. (If they keep Ceci, it has to be for less.)

The Leafs will use the Joffrey Loophole.
- Zezel

Lol @ Steve Bannon that phony banana eater
- Zezel

Hardly knew him. He was the office meth, er coffee boy

I can't see UFA's desperately wanting to sign with a tire fire team like the Red Wings. Trading is a more realistic option for Yzerman.
- gergeswillems

Hockey wise no, but if the Wings are one of 5 teams with money a lot of guys will take it rather than less elsewhere.

After SB

Matthews 700K
Tavares 900K
Marner 900K
Andersen 1M
Nylander 2.5M
Kerfoot 2.6M
Johnnson 2.6M
Kap 1.8M
Muzzin 700K
Holl 1M

The whole team.
- Santo_44

So now what teams will have cap space?

Unless they’re going after AP, I don’t see the Leafs specifically trying to trade for cap space anyway. I agree it’s a terrible market to try to do that. It’s more likely that they try to trade $s out for $s in and find $7M worth of D to replace Barrie and Ceci. (If they keep Ceci, it has to be for less.)
- Canada Cup

Which raises a bit of an issue as the Leafs players didn't perform well and therefore a hockey trade $ for $ might not get a lot back.

- gergeswillems