- TheMussel

Just looked at Leaf cap space.

We have waaay less space than I thought. Half the issue is going to be icing a team this year after Muzzin/Campbell/Engvall/Holl all got raises.

I have no bloody idea how they upgrade the defense at this point.

So now what teams will have cap space?
- aminnes

Kings, Avs, Devils, Sabres, Sens, Wings.

Plus other teams have space. You just may not be able to offload a full cap hit.

Plenty of deals to be had where a player has a 2.5 Cap hit but a higher salary than AJ,Kap,kerfoot, ect

Just looked at Leaf cap space.

We have waaay less space than I thought. Half the issue is going to be icing a team this year after Muzzin/Campbell/Engvall/Holl all got raises.

I have no bloody idea how they upgrade the defense at this point.
- Leafs43

I called it cap hell coming three years ago.

Kings, Avs, Devils, Sabres, Sens, Wings.

Plus other teams have space. You just may not be able to offload a full cap hit.

Plenty of deals to be had where a player has a 2.5 Cap hit but a higher salary than AJ,Kap,kerfoot, ect
- Santo_44

Assuming anyone wants them. Not sure what you're getting back for those guys. Teams do want a budget but they also don't want to get worse. Dubas knows the d won't get upgraded, it's almost impossible. That's why he has already said Holl is in the top 4.

Just looked at Leaf cap space.

We have waaay less space than I thought. Half the issue is going to be icing a team this year after Muzzin/Campbell/Engvall/Holl all got raises.

I have no bloody idea how they upgrade the defense at this point.
- Leafs43

Zetterberg and Gáborík and/or Seabrook will help the Leafs with that.
LTIR contracts to allow the Leafs over spend on the cap.

Lol @ Steve Bannon that phony banana eater
- Zezel

Love how the SDNY dumped that spicy meatball on Trump's plate just before the Republican Convention. 🤔😁

Zetterberg and Gáborík will help the Leafs with that.
LTIR contracts to allow the Leafs over spend on the cap.
- dmnted

I'm confident they can figure it out. But damn - I thought we had some more space.

Anyway, I still want AP. So these Leaf cap nerds better start figuring this sh!t out.

I'm confident they can figure it out. But damn - I thought we had some more space.

Anyway, I still want AP. So these Leaf cap nerds better start figuring this sh!t out.
- Leafs43

Unless someone with 6.9 mil cap hit and above will need to be moved if they sign AP and then a few more contracts.

St. Louis will have to trade someone and/or buy people out if they want to re-sign AP.
Perhaps that might leave Parayko available.

I'm confident they can figure it out. But damn - I thought we had some more space.

Anyway, I still want AP. So these Leaf cap nerds better start figuring this sh!t out.
- Leafs43

There's nothing they can do to "figure it out" other than moving some significant money out. Otherwise, yup, Justin friggin Holl in yer top four. 😐

Unless someone with 6.9 mil cap hit and above will need to be moved if they sign AP and then a few more contracts.

St. Louis will have to trade someone and/or buy people out if they want to re-sign AP.
Perhaps that might leave Parayko available.
- dmnted

Yeah. Not happening, ever.

I'm confident they can figure it out. But damn - I thought we had some more space.

Anyway, I still want AP. So these Leaf cap nerds better start figuring this sh!t out.
- Leafs43

54 million forwards. 5 spots to fill. 15 million d. 3 spots to fill. 6.6 million goalies.

75.6 tied up and 8 open roster spots. 81.5. They have less than 6 million to fill 8 spots. What a mess.

54 million forwards. 5 spots to fill. 15 million d. 3 spots to fill. 6.6 million goalies.

75.6 tied up and 8 open roster spots. 81.5. They have less than 6 million to fill 8 spots. What a mess.
- aminnes

Does that include guys coming off the books or guys that are RFA and the Leafs could lose or let walk?

UFAs $8.75M +

Barrie
Ceci
Clifford
Spezza

RFAs $3.2M

Micheyev
Malgin
Dermott
Goat

Also, this might hurt the Leafs but Clarkson and Horton LTIR is off the books this upcoming season. Both UFAs I believe.

Edit: Yep, just checked, both Clarkson and Horton's LTIR $ is off the books now

54 million forwards. 5 spots to fill. 15 million d. 3 spots to fill. 6.6 million goalies.

75.6 tied up and 8 open roster spots. 81.5. They have less than 6 million to fill 8 spots. What a mess.
- aminnes

We will see.

It certainly doesn't look good. But the Leafs have deep pockets at a time when cash is going to be tight. They also have people much smarter than me managing the cap. I'll wait to see what happens.

Does that include guys coming off the books or guys that are RFA could lose?

UFAs $8.75M +

Barrie
Ceci
Clifford
Spezza

RFAs

Micheyev
Malgin
Dermott
Goat

Also, this might hurt the Leafs but Clarkson and Horton LTIR is off the books this upcoming season. Both UFAs I believe.
- underhill14

Ya but the Leafs already gave raises to Muzzin/Holl/Engvall/Campbell. So a lot of that freed up cap space is going to their raises.

Does that include guys coming off the books or guys that are RFA and the Leafs could lose or let walk?

UFAs $8.75M +

Barrie
Ceci
Clifford
Spezza

RFAs $3.2M

Micheyev
Malgin
Dermott
Goat

Also, this might hurt the Leafs but Clarkson and Horton LTIR is off the books this upcoming season. Both UFAs I believe.

Edit: Yep, just checked, both Clarkson and Horton's LTIR $ is off the books now
- underhill14

The 75.6 is cap number already tied up.

We will see.

It certainly doesn't look good. But the Leafs have deep pockets at a time when cash is going to be tight. They also have people much smarter than me managing the cap. I'll wait to see what happens.
- Leafs43

To your second point. No they don't if they did they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. It's actually pretty simple math. I know they have 'capologists' and stuff but it's pretty bare for all to see.

Ya but the Leafs already gave raises to Muzzin/Holl/Engvall/Campbell. So a lot of that freed up cap space is going to their raises.
- Leafs43

Yep, good point.

There's no doubt that a few of these guys will not be on the team next season.

Nylander
Kap
Johnsson
Kerfoot
Dermott
Clifford
Spezza
Goat
Malgin
Rosen
MARINCIN!!!

Yep, good point.

There's no doubt that a few of these guys will not be on the team next season.

Nylander
Kap
Johnsson
Kerfoot
Dermott
Clifford
Spezza
Goat
Malgin
Rosen
MARINCIN!!!
- underhill14

It will be the Core 4, Muzzin Reilly and the Marlies.

Does that include guys coming off the books or guys that are RFA and the Leafs could lose or let walk?

UFAs $8.75M +

Barrie
Ceci
Clifford
Spezza

RFAs $3.2M

Micheyev
Malgin
Dermott
Goat

Also, this might hurt the Leafs but Clarkson and Horton LTIR is off the books this upcoming season. Both UFAs I believe.

Edit: Yep, just checked, both Clarkson and Horton's LTIR $ is off the books now
- underhill14

So, Barrie walks and Ceci only stays for less. Dermott goes and is replaced by Lehtonen. Clifford and Spezza stay if it’s for about the same money.

You save some money there if you replace the other guys at same cost. Depending on what’s available for upgrades on D, you try to use whatever combo of forwards to either generate space or as part of a trade.

Do I get the job? I have my own glasses.

To your second point. No they don't if they did they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. It's actually pretty simple math. I know they have 'capologists' and stuff but it's pretty bare for all to see.
- aminnes

Everything is going to be alright.

Or it's not. I don't (frank)ing know. I'm just not going to get my panties in a bunch because there is nothing I can do about it except hope for the best. I would probably prefer they move a big contract. But even moving money from the third line to defense would help immensely.

Yep, good point.

There's no doubt that a few of these guys will not be on the team next season.

Nylander
Kap
Johnsson
Kerfoot
Dermott
Clifford
Spezza
Goat
Malgin
Rosen
MARINCIN!!!
- underhill14

I hope Spezza come back
I also think GOAT's time with the Leafs should end.
Play Malgin enough games to expose him to Seattle draft
Clifford should be let go. would rather keep the 2nd rnd pick

Everything is going to be alright.

Or it's not. I don't (frank)ing know. I'm just not going to get my panties in a bunch because there is nothing I can do about it except hope for the best. I would probably prefer they move a big contract. But even moving money from the third line to defense would help immensely.
- Leafs43

Oh ya. I gave up taking this club too seriously. It's sad but it is what it is.

Love how the SDNY dumped that spicy meatball on Trump's plate just before the Republican Convention. 🤔😁
- fifty__missions

Yep. Love how people thought because Bannon wears a leather jacket and quotes the classics that he's this maverick political genius. Just another con man. And he provided a neat little demo of the massive graft opportunity that is all the wall would ever be.

So, Barrie walks and Ceci only stays for less. Dermott goes and is replaced by Lehtonen. Clifford and Spezza stay if it’s for about the same money.

You save some money there if you replace the other guys at same cost. Depending on what’s available for upgrades on D, you try to use whatever combo of forwards to either generate space or as part of a trade.

Do I get the job? I have my own glasses.
- Canada Cup