To start, it would bring a well-known national brand to the area. He's also expressed that he's a fan of the area and the gameday atmosphere here. The fact that he hurt a few feelings along the way means nothing to me.

That being said, his long standing feud with the NFL and Roger Goodell will prevent it from happening, and it's a shame.
- buffalofan19

Plus he kicked Covid's ass like 9 times.

- homiedclown

Plus he kicked Covid's ass like 9 times.
- Hatboro_Swords

So it’s a sin to be a Sabres fan from Toronto.

However a Pats fan is ok to have the Bills stadium named after him ?

Welcome back

I mean the likelihood of him filing in two consecutive years is unlikely.

However if he wants to bet on himself then it’s certainly not impossible.

If you were an arbitrator hearing the case what do you think you’d give him ?

I think he’s got a case for $6M.

Next year to even qualify him after that would be roughly $6.5M.

Would you give up a few million short term to strike gold in UFA with a potentially higher cap ?
- Pegullaville

The QO would be equal the 1 year deal, but very minor point.

I have a hard time seeing this one get to an arb decision. I imagine Sam would be around 8m and the team around 6m.

Anything could happen, of course. Predicting is harder than ever, especially with a new GM. Would you take a giant risk like that in the middle of a pandemic?

I see a 3-4 year deal when this inevitably gets ugly, or a trade.

So it’s a sin to be a Sabres fan from Toronto.

However a Pats fan is ok to have the Bills stadium named after him ?

Welcome back
- Pegullaville

It be dumb hopefully the nfl steps in

I still like Lundell at 8 for Buffalo and think he’s going to be on the Selkie Ballot more often then not.

https://twitter.com/hocke.../1296850299684937729?s=21

Unless Rossi or Raymond are there he’s my guy.

Can’t wait for us to take Sanderson

So it’s a sin to be a Sabres fan from Toronto.

However a Pats fan is ok to have the Bills stadium named after him ?

Welcome back
- Pegullaville

It wouldn't be named after him. It would be named either after Barstool or Penn National.

So it’s a sin to be a Sabres fan from Toronto.

However a Pats fan is ok to have the Bills stadium named after him ?

Welcome back
- Pegullaville

You wouldn’t expect rationalization from someone who’s in two different cults would you?

I still like Lundell at 8 for Buffalo and think he’s going to be on the Selkie Ballot more often then not.

https://twitter.com/hocke.../1296850299684937729?s=21

Unless Rossi or Raymond are there he’s my guy.

Can’t wait for us to take Sanderson
- Pegullaville

Very unhappy, I would be.

No Holtz love or think he'll just be gone by 8?

So it’s a sin to be a Sabres fan from Toronto.

However a Pats fan is ok to have the Bills stadium named after him ?

Welcome back
- Pegullaville

Wrong, it's a violation (get the term right) to pick your favorite teams after they get good. Did I go to the parade when the Eagles won the Bowl? No. Know why? Because it goes without saying for any dude with god given athletic talent to know that it isn't your place to celly. Take notes my son.

Very unhappy, I would be.

No Holtz love or think he'll just be gone by 8?
- RhinoFan

Holtz reminds me of a poor mans Laine.

Lundell’s all around game and the fact he plays in the middle gives him the edge to me.

Very unhappy, I would be.

No Holtz love or think he'll just be gone by 8?
- RhinoFan

I wouldn't be mad tbh

Holtz reminds me of a poor mans Laine.

Lundell’s all around game and the fact he plays in the middle gives him the edge to me.
- Pegullaville

He's just another vanek isn't bad

I still like Lundell at 8 for Buffalo and think he’s going to be on the Selkie Ballot more often then not.

https://twitter.com/hocke.../1296850299684937729?s=21

Unless Rossi or Raymond are there he’s my guy.

Can’t wait for us to take Sanderson
- Pegullaville

Why not let wild take him and get a 1st 2021 or 2nd 2020

Let them take Mikko Koivu

Holtz reminds me of a poor mans Laine.

Lundell’s all around game and the fact he plays in the middle gives him the edge to me.
- Pegullaville

Fair, think he's got a better 200ft game than Laine, but he's certainly not solid there like Lundell is.

If I can play devil's advocate with you though, do we need to draft a center? I know we need a 2C now, but with Cozens on the way, if things pan out, that hole is filled soon. Lundell as 3C sounds nice, but might leave us wanting for that top6 winger. So, follow up:

If you knew in 2 seasons Cozens would be a 20g/40a 2C, do you still draft a center or put extra value on centers over wingers?

I wouldn't be mad tbh
- gerbe75pts

I just love watching him.

Fair, think he's got a better 200ft game than Laine, but he's certainly not solid there like Lundell is.

If I can play devil's advocate with you though, do we need to draft a center? I know we need a 2C now, but with Cozens on the way, if things pan out, that hole is filled soon. Lundell as 3C sounds nice, but might leave us wanting for that top6 winger. So, follow up:

If you knew in 2 seasons Cozens would be a 20g/40a 2C, do you still draft a center or put extra value on centers over wingers?
- RhinoFan

Can always use more centers lol

He's just another vanek isn't bad
- gerbe75pts

I think Holtz is going to be a guy who scores you 25-35 goals a year with the right Center and be a very good complimentary winger in the NHL.

I just don’t think he can drive his own line and his defensive metrics are ugly compared to his closest comparables in the same league (Raymond and Gunler)

Fair, think he's got a better 200ft game than Laine, but he's certainly not solid there like Lundell is.

If I can play devil's advocate with you though, do we need to draft a center? I know we need a 2C now, but with Cozens on the way, if things pan out, that hole is filled soon. Lundell as 3C sounds nice, but might leave us wanting for that top6 winger. So, follow up:

If you knew in 2 seasons Cozens would be a 20g/40a 2C, do you still draft a center or put extra value on centers over wingers?
- RhinoFan

Draft centers. They can always play wing. Not the other way around

Fair, think he's got a better 200ft game than Laine, but he's certainly not solid there like Lundell is.

If I can play devil's advocate with you though, do we need to draft a center? I know we need a 2C now, but with Cozens on the way, if things pan out, that hole is filled soon. Lundell as 3C sounds nice, but might leave us wanting for that top6 winger. So, follow up:

If you knew in 2 seasons Cozens would be a 20g/40a 2C, do you still draft a center or put extra value on centers over wingers?
- RhinoFan

If the C is rated higher? Absolutely. They can transition to wing if need be.

I honestly think you just need two really good players that due specific things on a line and if it's two wingers who drive play with a center who maybe just has an ability to score goals, or even defend, it can work.

Just go BPA

Fair, think he's got a better 200ft game than Laine, but he's certainly not solid there like Lundell is.

If I can play devil's advocate with you though, do we need to draft a center? I know we need a 2C now, but with Cozens on the way, if things pan out, that hole is filled soon. Lundell as 3C sounds nice, but might leave us wanting for that top6 winger. So, follow up:

If you knew in 2 seasons Cozens would be a 20g/40a 2C, do you still draft a center or put extra value on centers over wingers?
- RhinoFan

I would still take Lundell personally.

In our perfect world scenario that you are alluding too the trio of Eichel-Cozens-Lundell would be the best trio in the league.

Can always package other assets to acquire a top 6 winger and they are usually more attainable on the open market.

Avs got Burakovsky for a 2nd rounder.

Penguins got Zucker for a first rounder + Gally

I also understand I’m the contrarian opinion on a lot of things regarding the state of the team over the years. I’ve become comfortable with being misunderstood.

If they draft Holtz though and Cozens ends up being a winger then we’re pretty set on top 6 wingers but we still have a black hole down the middle.

I would still take Lundell personally.

In our perfect world scenario that you are alluding too the trio of Eichel-Cozens-Lundell would be the best trio in the league.

Can always package other assets to acquire a top 6 winger and they are usually more attainable on the open market.

Avs got Burakovsky for a 2nd rounder.

Penguins got Zucker for a first rounder + Gally

I also understand I’m the contrarian opinion on a lot of things regarding the state of the team over the years. I’ve become comfortable with being misunderstood.

If they draft Holtz though and Cozens ends up being a winger then we’re pretty set on top 6 wingers but we still have a black hole down the middle.
- Pegullaville

That would be fun. And agreed, you're putting a lot of eggs in the Cozens basket seeing as we have nothing coming up behind him. Mitts just doesn't seemingly have the stuff.

If the C is rated higher? Absolutely. They can transition to wing if need be.

I honestly think you just need two really good players that due specific things on a line and if it's two wingers who drive play with a center who maybe just has an ability to score goals, or even defend, it can work.

Just go BPA
- sbroads24

I liked the pairings idea too. Worked for Pitt, Avs, Chi, TB...I'd like some of that success.

If the C is rated higher? Absolutely. They can transition to wing if need be.

I honestly think you just need two really good players that due specific things on a line and if it's two wingers who drive play with a center who maybe just has an ability to score goals, or even defend, it can work.

Just go BPA
- sbroads24

In the Lundell scenario, could always move Cozens to RW to play with Jack or as 2RW also if we happen to find an adequate 3C

In the Lundell scenario, could always move Cozens to RW to play with Jack or as 2RW also if we happen to find an adequate 3C
- Pegullaville

Exactly. I think Lundell is an excellent fit.

My offseason requirements for the Sabres is two options

Add a top 6 winger and top 9 center or add top 9 winger and top 6 center.

Get three pairs of positive impact players

Eichel/top 6 acquisition/ Olofsson

Skinner/3C/Reinhart

Kahun/Cozens/Johansson

Lundell/4C/Okposo

Or.....

Eichel/Olo/Reinhart
Skinner/legit 2c/ top 9 winger add
Kahun/Cozens/Johansson
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