So I have a question for the Trump supporters. Just a little background - I am an independent that leans Libertarian-ish. I can't recall ever having voted democrat. I have some right-wing members of my family that are fox-loving republicans. When nobody else is around they have no problem admitting that they think the president is an awful and disgusting man that has clearly been compromised by the Russians.

So, my question is this. I am going to go out on a limb and say that most of you - if we were having a beer with nobody else from either tribe around - would admit the same thing. It's been a disaster. So, could Joe Biden possibly be worse? I mean in your heart of hearts, with Biden's worst-case scenario (and no, he isn't de-funding police) - what could he possibly do that's been worse than what the president has done?

Or there are just bricks around and there is no conspiracy.
- jcragcrumple

happened in too many cities for that


esp the pallets in dumpsters

You make an assumption that I read / watch only right wing conspiracy outlets.
Bad assumption.
The BLM movement has been hijacked by extremists
The BLM organization is an undercover Democratic Party organization judging by where their contributions go.
It has quickly become a hate group.
- IonSabres

Funny, I see it from the perspective of people who want justice for police brutality. I have been following it for a few years, through chuck d of public enemy and other rappers I follow.

I saw evidence today that there are in fact Russian bits deliberately posting inflammatory things on Twitter and Facebook and they have been identified as Russians. So perhaps some of the things that you are seeing or hearing are hijacked messages.

I think we would both agree that kneeling on a mans neck when he is in handcuffs is wrong.

Mostly liberals being ok with Racism as long as Trump loses. Pretty pathetic.
- Fattony1187

False. Anyone who told you that is nuts. Racism is always wrong. Shame on you being a cop and all.

you have no f@cking clue what was going on at the boarder


before Trump was elected, the boarder patrol agents feared for their life, had outdated equipment

and captured people were literally released, in our country



now they have advanced equipment, illegals are kicked out of our country, and they feel much safer
- homiedclown

You live in Florida so you have no first hand knowledge. Just saying.

So I have a question for the Trump supporters. Just a little background - I am an independent that leans Libertarian-ish. I can't recall ever having voted democrat. I have some right-wing members of my family that are fox-loving republicans. When nobody else is around they have no problem admitting that they think the president is an awful and disgusting man that has clearly been compromised by the Russians.

So, my question is this. I am going to go out on a limb and say that most of you - if we were having a beer with nobody else from either tribe around - would admit the same thing. It's been a disaster. So, could Joe Biden possibly be worse? I mean in your heart of hearts, with Biden's worst-case scenario (and no, he isn't de-funding police) - what could he possibly do that's been worse than what the president has done?
- Slump Buster

Biden, the worst case is he strokes out before taking office and an extreme left supported by bernie, takes over and runs the country. I mean she dropped out before the first vote was cast in the Dem primary.


second worst case is he lives and stays healthy for his term and goes on another 4 year apology tour, ruins the economy and makes us have to pay double in taxes and double in health care



at a glance, and I don't wish death upon anyone in office before someone thinks or suggests I want Biden dead

You live in Florida so you have no first hand knowledge. Just saying.
- Da_Cashman

you live in canada, worry about your f#cking country

48 years in politics, and done nothing


check



family takes money from his position in power


check




mentally unfit


check



lies



check

the reason trump got elected in 2016 is because of the recycling of career politicians that do nothing, but throw one more out there


- homiedclown

Isn’t Trump three years younger? Can Trump forms sentence that sounds like it wasn’t coming from that guy from the goonies in the Superman shirt? Hey you guys? Hasn’t Trump lied 20,000 times (documented)? Handy Trump broke tons of laws and is working with outing and MBS? Hmmmm but Biden said something a few years ago so that’s what is imorptant. I got it.

disagree


alan harper couldn't even afford a condo by the airport and had to live with his brother in part due to 2 divorces, child support and a porsche car payment



most of the people I know who are not in good shape


house they can't afford
and or divorce
single income
credit card debt
car payment
no savings
student loan debt



they usually have 5 of those 7 boxes checked
- homiedclown

Sure, and there’s also ppl who have made good life choices
*any bad (or good) financial decisions that individuals may make are secondary factors for the purposes of what we are discussing


Also... how do u know these ppl not in good shape when u previously said,

“yet EVERYONE I know is much better off then 4 or 5 years ago“
- homiedclown

I’m not picking on you here...
it’s just that those 2 statements are contradictory,
so I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say?


The bottom line is that INCOME is not keeping up with the COST OF LIVING (and inflation)

This is 100% undeniably causing the shrinking of the middle class

happened in too many cities for that


esp the pallets in dumpsters
- homiedclown

Like I said - there is motive for any of the following three to place bricks:

Antifa - cause chaos

Boogaloo boys- make antifa look bad, thus causing chaos

Cops - make protesters into criminals

Or there are just bricks around in cities. I love a good conspiracy theory though

False. Anyone who told you that is nuts. Racism is always wrong. Shame on you being a cop and all.
- Da_Cashman

“I want to remind white folks [White People] that y’all were running from us. And you’re still running.”


is this racist?

Biden, the worst case is he strokes out before taking office and an extreme left supported by bernie, takes over and runs the country. I mean she dropped out before the first vote was cast in the Dem primary.


second worst case is he lives and stays healthy for his term and goes on another 4 year apology tour, ruins the economy and makes us have to pay double in taxes and double in health care



at a glance, and I don't wish death upon anyone in office before someone thinks or suggests I want Biden dead
- homiedclown

Thank you, that is an honest answer.

So how does the left ruin the economy? Obama (again, who I did not vote for) inherited a mess and left it in great shape when he left office. While the stock market continued to go up under Trump the tax break was devastating to our deficit.

Ok, so if the left comes in we probably have universal healthcare. And you're right - it probably will cost more. Are you saying that is worse than having a russian operative in the white house who is actively trying to gain more and more power?

Sure, and there’s also ppl who have made good life choices
*any bad (or good) financial decisions that individuals may make are secondary factors for the purposes of what we are discussing


Also... how do u know these ppl not in good shape when u previously said,

I’m not picking on you here...
it’s just that those 2 statements are contradictory,
so I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to say?


The bottom line is that INCOME is not keeping up with the COST OF LIVING (and inflation)

This is 100% undeniably causing the shrinking of the middle class
- jdfitz77

the people i know, I consider friends

the people in what I consider bad shape, are what I consider acquaintance

Thank you, that is an honest answer.

So how does the left ruin the economy? Obama (again, who I did not vote for) inherited a mess and left it in great shape when he left office. While the stock market continued to go up under Trump the tax break was devastating to our deficit.

Ok, so if the left comes in we probably have universal healthcare. And you're right - it probably will cost more. Are you saying that is worse than having a russian operative in the white house who is actively trying to gain more and more power?
- Slump Buster

IMO yes


I guess it boils down to are you better now then you were 4 years ago, aside from covid issues


if you were better in 2015 then you are now, Joe's your guy

military was dated before trump took over


ask anyone who was in the service from 2014 to 2018
- homiedclown

Yeah, there’s a sh!t ton of misappropriation of funds & outright thievery that occurs
Their is far more $$$ allocated to the military than what is needed
They should clean up the corruption & they wouldn’t have to worry about it

This has been going on for decades,
regardless of which side was President

They should clean up the corruption & they wouldn’t have to worry about it

This has been going on for decades,
regardless of which side was President
- jdfitz77

spot on


every bill has 6 million other things attached to it


$500 hammers


etc
etc
etc

Building a Border wall is now “racist.”? Do you have a fence on your property? Probably. Your condone Biden’s racism so what would be different with you
- Fattony1187

The wall is not racisit. It’s a wall.
When you say that certain groups are rapists, drug dealers etc, you are a racist.

Dave Portnoy
@stoolpresidente
After a brief conversation with those who matter I am here to say we are very serious about buying the naming rights of the @BuffaloBills stadium and will enter the process.
- gerbe75pts

Let's just have Bang Bros buy the rights and get it over with. They can afford way more than that bumhole.

disagree
- homiedclown

Maybe you should read no logo by Naomi Klein or some of the research about how the middle class has been disappearing since the time of bush Sr due to offshore manufacturing (lower wage countries) because you are wrong.

yet everyone I know is much better off then 4 or 5 years ago
- homiedclown

So what? Your experience doesn’t make the whole country better. Come on man.

So I have a question for the Trump supporters. Just a little background - I am an independent that leans Libertarian-ish. I can't recall ever having voted democrat. I have some right-wing members of my family that are fox-loving republicans. When nobody else is around they have no problem admitting that they think the president is an awful and disgusting man that has clearly been compromised by the Russians.

So, my question is this. I am going to go out on a limb and say that most of you - if we were having a beer with nobody else from either tribe around - would admit the same thing. It's been a disaster. So, could Joe Biden possibly be worse? I mean in your heart of hearts, with Biden's worst-case scenario (and no, he isn't de-funding police) - what could he possibly do that's been worse than what the president has done?
- Slump Buster

What has Trump done that’s been a “disaster”? Because people that don’t think like you means he’s a disaster? Everyone knows Trumps personality is scummy. so is Biden’s. He literally sexually assaulted his staffer and democrats don’t care.

Maybe you should read no logo by Naomi Klein or some of the research about how the middle class has been disappearing since the time of bush Sr due to offshore manufacturing (lower wage countries) because you are wrong.
- Da_Cashman

opinions vary

IMO yes


I guess it boils down to are you better now then you were 4 years ago, aside from covid issues


if you were better in 2015 then you are now, Joe's your guy
- homiedclown

So you personally think that you're better off now than you were four years ago? I am not challenging you - I am just curious as to what is better in your life?

So does the health of the rest of the country matter? I mean, we have done the worst job in the world handling the virus (200k deaths by election time), our intelligence community is in shambles and we have someone trying to become a dictator. Does any of that matter?

Funny, I see it from the perspective of people who want justice for police brutality. I have been following it for a few years, through chuck d of public enemy and other rappers I follow.

I saw evidence today that there are in fact Russian bits deliberately posting inflammatory things on Twitter and Facebook and they have been identified as Russians. So perhaps some of the things that you are seeing or hearing are hijacked messages.

I think we would both agree that kneeling on a mans neck when he is in handcuffs is wrong.
- Da_Cashman

Everyone thinks what that one cop did is wrong. He’s in jail.

What has Trump done that’s been a “disaster”? Because people that don’t think like you means he’s a disaster? Everyone knows Trumps personality is scummy. so is Biden’s. He literally sexually assaulted his staffer and democrats don’t care.
- Fattony1187

but she was credible when it fit an agenda