jdfitz77
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I think his specific point is that sometime during the time the guy stood up from the ground, slowly walked from the rear passenger side of the car to the front driver side of the car, and attempted to open the car door, the three police officers should have detained him. - JetpackJesus
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Hatboro_Swords
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Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA Joined: 07.30.2010
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Trump! Biden gave them hugs... and kisses! |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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If he turns & is walking out the back door...
then they have NO RIGHT to shoot him in the back
If he comes at them or anyone else with the knife,
the yes, shoot - jdfitz77
we all agree if he stopped when they said drop the knife, he probably would be walking today, right? |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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This guy gets it đđđ - jdfitz77
what would you have done, when he continues to walk toward his car, after you say drop the knife?
serious question because the guy was not stepping into his car, and when you grab him he is resisting
and you have no clue what he is reaching for in his car
serious question |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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we all agree if he stopped when they said drop the knife, he probably would be walking today, right? - navinrjohnson
Yes
We should also all agree that shooting someone in the back 7 times is completely unacceptable
And if u wanna play that game...
we should also agree that if the Coos detained him properly when on the passenger side of the car heâd still be standing
Or if the cops property detainees him while he was WALKING back to the driver side, then heâd still be standing
Not listening to the cops DOES NOT justify using lethal force to shoot someone in the back |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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Yes
We should also all agree that shooting someone in the back 7 times is completely unacceptable
And if u wanna play that game...
we should also agree that if the Coos detained him properly when on the passenger side of the car heâd still be standing
Or if the cops property detainees him while he was WALKING back to the driver side, then heâd still be standing
Not listening to the cops DOES NOT justify using lethal force to shoot someone in the back - jdfitz77
I don't think life and death is a game
I guess my point is as long as people refuse to stop when cops ask them to stop there will be deaths, black and white
respect is a two way street and both sides could probably use a refresher course on that |
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JetpackJesus
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Location: Honolulu, HI Joined: 08.27.2007
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if a cop has it's lights on, and you do not pull over
and eventually they shoot the tire because you refuse to pull over, is it their fault you die when the car crashes, or your fault
not you of course - navinrjohnson
I'm pretty sure our resident LEO would confirm that cops aren't allowed to do that, so I would put that 100% on the cops.
Resisting arrest and running away from the cops are not capital offenses in every jurisdiction in the United States. |
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buffalofan19
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Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes Joined: 07.01.2007
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I don't think life and death is a game
I guess my point is as long as people refuse to stop when cops ask them to stop there will be deaths, black and white
respect is a two way street and both sides could probably use a refresher course on that - navinrjohnson
I look at it this way. If I see a car going the wrong way down a one way street, and I still step out into the road anyway, it's my fault when I get hit whether I get hurt or killed. It doesn't matter whether the guy was drunk, an bumhole, or just plain stupid. He shouldn't have been there. I still could have avoided injury by not stepping out into the road. What David Blake did was the equivalent of doing just that.
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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what would you have done, when he continues to walk toward his car, after you say drop the knife?
serious question because the guy was not stepping into his car, and when you grab him he is resisting
and you have no clue what he is reaching for in his car
serious question - navinrjohnson
Doesnât matter
You canât shoot someone bc of what he MIGHT be reaching for
It couldâve been a water bottle for all we know
If for some reason i (and the other officers) couldnât detain him like we SHOULD HAVE
And it got to the point where i had to follow him to the driverâs side...
Then i wouldâve made sure to GIVE MYSELF SPACE if he had a knife, not walk right up & grab him by the back of the shirt where he could then turn around & stab me
Youâre also assuming he had the knife the whole time, and we donât know that
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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I'm pretty sure our resident LEO would confirm that cops aren't allowed to do that, so I would put that 100% on the cops.
Resisting arrest and running away from the cops are not capital offenses in every jurisdiction in the United States. - JetpackJesus
ok,say they chase him, he spins out loses control and kills 3 people on the sidewalk
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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Doesnât matter
You canât shoot someone bc of what he MIGHT be reaching for
- jdfitz77
ok, so if the guy had a gun, bang bang
what do you tell the cops wife at his funeral?
again when a cop says stop
stop
it's pretty simple
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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I don't think life and death is a game
I guess my point is as long as people refuse to stop when cops ask them to stop there will be deaths, black and white
respect is a two way street and both sides could probably use a refresher course on that - navinrjohnson
Sure
But not listening to a cop is not justification to shoot someone in the back, let alone 7 times
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mes418
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.20.2007
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Doesnât matter
You canât shoot someone bc of what he MIGHT be reaching for
It couldâve been a water bottle for all we know
If for some reason i (and the other officers) couldnât detain him like we SHOULD HAVE
And it got to the point where i had to follow him to the driverâs side...
Then i wouldâve made sure to GIVE MYSELF SPACE if he had a knife, not walk right up & grab him by the back of the shirt where he could then turn around & stab me
Youâre also assuming he had the knife the whole time, and we donât know that - jdfitz77
And there is the fault in your argument. Of course they can shoot you if you're reaching for something unknown after you've been non-compliant. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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ok, so if the guy had a gun, bang bang
what do you tell the cops wife at his funeral?
again when a cop says stop
stop
it's pretty simple - navinrjohnson
Then u shoot him before he shoots you
If youâre a well trained officer, that shouldnât be a problem
If MULTIPLE COPS had detained him correctly in the first place, then it also never wouldâve gotten to that point |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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ok, so if the guy had a gun, bang bang
what do you tell the cops wife at his funeral?
again when a cop says stop
stop
it's pretty simple - navinrjohnson
And whatâs with this scream name?
Is Homie banned again?đđđ |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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And whatâs with this scream name?
Is Homie banned again?đđđ - jdfitz77
I have no clue who homie is
I am a busy executive that sells designer glasses
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For the people living in denial there are photos with Blake carrying a knife BEFORE going to his car. Hence the police attempting to taze him and drawing guns on him.
Just because you donât believe evidence and facts doesnât mean itâs not real. Jacob Blake himself confirmed to DOJ he was armed with a knife. Those pesky facts though |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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And there is the fault in your argument. Of course they can shoot you if you're reaching for something unknown after you've been non-compliant. - mes418
This isnât MY argument
Itâs HOMIEâS theoretical situation on how things went down
Heâs assuming things we donât know
And i still disagree regardless...
a cop isnât allowed to shoot someone in the back 7 times bc he might be reaching for something
Thatâs why this guy will be arrested too
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Then u shoot him before he shoots you
If youâre a well trained officer, that shouldnât be a problem
If MULTIPLE COPS had detained him correctly in the first place, then it also never wouldâve gotten to that point - jdfitz77
Sounds like you know so much about Police tactics. Itâs crazy how your just a bartender |
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I think his specific point is that sometime during the time the guy stood up from the ground, slowly walked from the rear passenger side of the car to the front driver side of the car, and attempted to open the car door, the three police officers should have detained him. - JetpackJesus
They tried. He was holding a knife |
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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guy has a knife, won't drop it. just detain him with the knife in his hand? that's unreasonable and absolutely ridiculous. |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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For the people living in denial there are photos with Blake carrying a knife BEFORE going to his car. Hence the police attempting to taze him and drawing guns on him.
Just because you donât believe evidence and facts doesnât mean itâs not real. Jacob Blake himself confirmed to DOJ he was armed with a knife. Those pesky facts though - Fattony1187
1- never said he didnât have a knife before
2- letâs see the photo
3- he never âbroke freeâ & ran away
4- he got up and WALKED away
5- none of that justifies him being shot in the back
6- thought u were âdone with thisâ |
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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Sounds like you know so much about Police tactics. Itâs crazy how your just a barback - Fattony1187
fixed |
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navinrjohnson
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Location: We are finally good, NY Joined: 12.08.2009
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And there is the fault in your argument. Of course they can shoot you if you're reaching for something unknown after you've been non-compliant. - mes418
maybe it's time to roll back time served in prison
if you do the crime, sere the full time
the guy in florida that killed 3 guys had over 230 felony criminal charges in his arrest history
15 felony convictions on his record
26 years old, why was he walking the streets? |
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This isnât MY argument
Itâs HOMIEâS theoretical situation on how things went down
Heâs assuming things we donât know
And i still disagree regardless...
a cop isnât allowed to shoot someone in the back 7 times bc he might be reaching for something
Thatâs why this guy will be arrested too - jdfitz77
Supreme Court disagrees with you but hey your a bartender, you probably know more than them |
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