if we select Holloway say instead of Zary it does seem somewhat a reach for need first. Either would be an excellent choice. Curious to see how the draft plays and wiz review of it all.
- jhawk59

With the "best player available" strategy in mind (Holloway vs Zary):

Taking Holloway would be great because it would add a winger with size who is industrious, competitive, sound across in all zones, committed to defense, and offensively gifted.

Don't think Holloway will be a game-breaking top line PPG winger but would be happy if he turned out to be Saad-like just with more consistent offensive output, i.e. reliable at ES, PP, PK and able to produce at a 50-60 point clip on 20+ goals.

Taking Zary would be great because it would add a middle 6 center who could push for 2C duty but likely to excel best as a stellar 3C. High hockey IQ, strong 3-zone player, and talented offensively.

The main knock on Zary is his skating. But unlike Strome, Zary brings so much more to the rink including being able to execute smart plays with and without the puck. He's not glacially slow but could stand to add some explosiveness.

On social media the IceHogs announced that they’ll have a new player signing to announce tomorrow. Announcing that there will be an announcement....

On social media the IceHogs announced that they’ll have a new player signing to announce tomorrow. Announcing that there will be an announcement....
- DarthKane

Lalonde?

On social media the IceHogs announced that they’ll have a new player signing to announce tomorrow. Announcing that there will be an announcement....
- DarthKane

The Indy Fire have been doing that all summer with a slew of signings. That's minor league hockey for you. They need all the publicity they can get.

Wonder what the announcement is for the Hogs. Colliton returning as head coach?

Not to sound calluses but this all because a black man got shot did they report that he raped a 15 teen year old girl and was armed with a knife. Enough just giving in to their agenda which is ripping this country apart. I m all for justice and equality no matter the color of skin gender or ethnic backround. Nhl should keep going and if they or players want to make statement before the games then ok that flag that keeps getting poop is the reason we the people can speak freely.
- Scott1977

wow

sorry

knucklehead

Lalonde?
- mohel

Beech. More fights.

wow

sorry

knucklehead
- wiz1901

Yea it should read, I'm all for justice and equality so long as it's convenient for me

Guys, it's been fun.

To those whose balls I may have busted - and have busted mine back - I never took it personal/always in good fun (as if we were BSing in a bat)

After all, we all somewhat at least "liked" SOMETHING about the Hawks!

I'm done with Hockey as I had hope they wouldnt cater to the cancel media mob as well, but unfortunately money talks.

It's been fun, and I truly did enjoy ALL the HOCKEY conversations - the good and the bad.

Good luck out there

With the "best player available" strategy in mind (Holloway vs Zary):

Taking Holloway would be great because it would add a winger with size who is industrious, competitive, sound across in all zones, committed to defense, and offensively gifted.

Don't think Holloway will be a game-breaking top line PPG winger but would be happy if he turned out to be Saad-like just with more consistent offensive output, i.e. reliable at ES, PP, PK and able to produce at a 50-60 point clip on 20+ goals.

Taking Zary would be great because it would add a middle 6 center who could push for 2C duty but likely to excel best as a stellar 3C. High hockey IQ, strong 3-zone player, and talented offensively.

The main knock on Zary is his skating. But unlike Strome, Zary brings so much more to the rink including being able to execute smart plays with and without the puck. He's not glacially slow but could stand to add some explosiveness.
- AEL_Fox

I am not sure either are there at slot 17 even though they are on my current board.


Zary gets where he needs to.

I am not sure Zary can play like Lundell, but what if he is there?

And I am gonna say it again: despite what you read, Dylan Holloway has skill beside powerful leg drive, edginess, and body English, I was worried he would be off the board before the hawks picked at 10, so dont get your hopes up like I have because the recent stats are reflecting ppg.

He had 88 points and 40 goals in BCHL the year before college.

We might see the hawks focus on a guy they see as a skilled long term project who IS gonna get bigger and stronger and is a scoring centre.

When Hockey restarts Saturday and Sunday, which benefited from the days off?


Lots of players decided to stay in the bubble to extra days.

Guys, it's been fun.

To those whose balls I may have busted - and have busted mine back - I never took it personal/always in good fun (as if we were BSing in a bat)

After all, we all somewhat at least "liked" SOMETHING about the Hawks!

I'm done with Hockey as I had hope they wouldnt cater to the cancel media mob as well, but unfortunately money talks.

It's been fun, and I truly did enjoy ALL the HOCKEY conversations - the good and the bad.

Good luck out there
- PatShart

Same to you Shart. I, too enjoyed the ball busting. You're good at it!

By the way, you probably won't be informed by the mainstream media, but the medical examiner in Minnesota determined George Floyd's death was due to drug overdose - not the cop kneeling on his neck. But the facts don't matter after the "protest" train left the station 3 months ago and large parts of cities have been burned to the ground. Defunding police because a criminal resisted arrest and swallowed a lethal dose of fentanyl is sound logic to those looking for an excuse to do what we have witnessed. Ignorance is bliss. Let's cancel everything. Not just sports - everything should be cancelled until equality of results is realized, and not just in the U.S., but everywhere in the world. Cancel movies and TV, cancel music, cancel school, cancel work, cancel medicine and health care, cancel alcohol and other drugs, cancel every form of happiness. Everything should be cancelled until everyone in the world feels exactly the same level of miserable. What about people who are better looking or stronger or taller or are smarter than other people? Yep, those people need to be changed so they're uglier and weaker and shorter and dumber so the ugly, weak, short, dumb people aren't disadvantaged. If this is about equality for all - than it needs to be thorough and without exception and that can't happen until everyone is exactly the same in every way. Let's get started.
- EbonyRaptor

Honestly, I am not sure what happened in one case of thousands of racial injustice acts that have been happened in this county for centuries...changes the current political climate...that we need to fix it, with discussion, with friendships, no close-mindedness and admission there iS a problem.

I support the police and BLACK LIVES MATTER.


I know you can't there, brother.

Guys, it's been fun.

To those whose balls I may have busted - and have busted mine back - I never took it personal/always in good fun (as if we were BSing in a bat)

After all, we all somewhat at least "liked" SOMETHING about the Hawks!

I'm done with Hockey as I had hope they wouldnt cater to the cancel media mob as well, but unfortunately money talks.

It's been fun, and I truly did enjoy ALL the HOCKEY conversations - the good and the bad.

Good luck out there
- PatShart

"Cancel culture" term tells us all which side of the aisle gets your vote, enjoy the convention tonight...
How's that for a testicle twist?

"Cancel culture" term tells us all which side of the aisle gets your vote, enjoy the convention tonight...
How's that for a testicle twist?
- wiz1901

Just saying good bye to the few friends I made on here

No need to respond if you're not one of them.

And yes, i am not on the side that supports violent pedophiles that resist arrest

Yea it should read, I'm all for justice and equality so long as it's convenient for me
- BetweenTheDots

Thats not what saying my thought might taken wrong i m as everyone else is for justice and equality in this country but before we make decisions that hurt this country lets the all facts before making decisions. Nhl took a stand along with other leagues good.

Just saying good bye to the few friends I made on here

No need to respond if you're not one of them.

And yes, i am not on the side that supports violent pedophiles that resist arrest
- PatShart

ah, #45's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein

By the way, you probably won't be informed by the mainstream media, but the medical examiner in Minnesota determined George Floyd's death was due to drug overdose - not the cop kneeling on his neck. But the facts don't matter after the "protest" train left the station 3 months ago and large parts of cities have been burned to the ground. Defunding police because a criminal resisted arrest and swallowed a lethal dose of fentanyl is sound logic to those looking for an excuse to do what we have witnessed. Ignorance is bliss. Let's cancel everything. Not just sports - everything should be cancelled until equality of results is realized, and not just in the U.S., but everywhere in the world. Cancel movies and TV, cancel music, cancel school, cancel work, cancel medicine and health care, cancel alcohol and other drugs, cancel every form of happiness. Everything should be cancelled until everyone in the world feels exactly the same level of miserable. What about people who are better looking or stronger or taller or are smarter than other people? Yep, those people need to be changed so they're uglier and weaker and shorter and dumber so the ugly, weak, short, dumb people aren't disadvantaged. If this is about equality for all - than it needs to be thorough and without exception and that can't happen until everyone is exactly the same in every way. Let's get started.
- EbonyRaptor

You're on to something Raptor! Your comment reminds me of a short, but thought-provoking dystopian story I read in my (much) younger years--"Harrison Bergeron" I believe it was.

ah, #45's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein
- wiz1901

"we need to fix it, with discussion, with friendships, no close-mindedness". I guess your earlier post was disingenuous, eh?

You're on to something Raptor! Your comment reminds me of a short ,but thought-provoking story I read in my (much) younger years--"Harrison Bergeron" I believe it was.
- grinder10

Father of Patrice?

ah, #45's buddy, Jeffrey Epstein
- wiz1901

...says the guy himself who has been tracking young hockey players across the country..."scouting them"

Want to keep going?

Do you really think this is about not getting to watch hockey? This is about a whole lot more than hockey games. If this was really about what it is claimed to be about, the people protesting/rioting should be protesting the living conditions that fosters the violence seen every day in Chicago where innocent children are murdered because they happened to get caught in the crossfire between rival gangs and drive-by shootings. The protesters don't seem to have the same level of concern for those black lives.
- EbonyRaptor

So true

Father of Patrice?
- mohel

Can't be. Patrice wouldn't have been allowed to be better than anyone else if he was. We all know Patrice is pretty good at hockey...

Can't be. Patrice wouldn't have been allowed to be better than anyone else if he was. We all know Patrice is pretty good at hockey...
- grinder10

That's for sure. He's one determined and skilled dude.

...says the guy himself who has been tracking young hockey players across the country..."scouting them"

Want to keep going?
- PatShart

Sure big difference from being a true predator though, right?
I guess as a white predator, like Jeffery, I would get away with a lot longer and easier...

That's for sure. He's one determined and skilled dude.
- mohel

Gotta respect anyone that can play through the Stanley Cup finals with a collapsed lung (among other ailments) and go directly to the hospital afterward. Just wow.