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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:30 PM ET


Flyers doing anything today/tonight?

- jmatchett383


As of this writing, yes, but I wouldn't bet on it. The HDA is calling for suspending tonight's games.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:30 PM ET
As of this writing, yes, but I wouldn't bet on it. The HDA is calling for suspending tonight's games.
- Scoob


HDA?
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 27 @ 1:31 PM ET
Just read Isles May boycott
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
Just read Isles May boycott
https://twitter.com/repor.../1299024913391652864?s=21
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
Well, by reading your posts here, it's fact-based that you condescend regularly.
- dramado


Even if that were true, and it is certainly possible, I also accompany putative condescension with carefully argued posts.

Now, who gives a (frank) about condescension?

Lets say a jerk makes logical posts. Why not address the post instead of focusing on tone etc?

In other words, the post, not the poster?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
HDA?
- jmatchett383

Hockey Diversity Alliance
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
Just read Isles May boycott
https://twitter.com/repor.../1299024913391652864?s=21

- arichardson22


If the Flyers choose not to boycott, does that mean they win? I mean, there is a game scheduled tonight. If one team fails to appear, do they forfeit?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
If the Flyers choose not to boycott, does that mean they win? I mean, there is a game scheduled tonight. If one team fails to appear, do they forfeit?
- jmatchett383


That's how it works in the league I play in.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
FOR (frank)'S SAKE PLEASE STOP! ALL OF YOU!
- jmatchett383


Ok fair call. 👍

See you all game time,when I hope Kingkenzo in particular has regained his logical equilibrium.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
Just read Isles May boycott
https://twitter.com/repor.../1299024913391652864?s=21

- arichardson22



Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
·
51m
Barry Trotz says his players are having a discussion about whether or not they'll play tonight. He believes the Islanders-Flyers game will go ahead but believes it's important for the players to use their platforms.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:36 PM ET
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
·
51m
Barry Trotz says his players are having a discussion about whether or not they'll play tonight. He believes the Islanders-Flyers game will go ahead but believes it's important for the players to use their platforms.

- Scoob


That's fine, use your social status to speak out. In the meantime, go do the job you are well paid to do.

Sports have nothing to do with politics. We use sports as a way to NOT deal with politics. That's why I come here.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
·
51m
Barry Trotz says his players are having a discussion about whether or not they'll play tonight. He believes the Islanders-Flyers game will go ahead but believes it's important for the players to use their platforms.

- Scoob


Well, I think that if the NHL takes a break from its game for one night like the NBA did, we'll get this whole police brutality thing squared away and fixed.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
That's fine, use your social status to speak out. In the meantime, go do the job you are well paid to do.

Sports have nothing to do with politics. We use sports as a way to NOT deal with politics. That's why I come here.

- jmatchett383




Boy, I wish I could just decide to not go to work with no consequences based on a half truth and false narrative.

Maybe Ill stick a gun in to the belly of a pregnant woman and be a career criminal then die of a fentanyl overdose then get a horse drawn golden casket and state funeral attended by thousands and used by a political party to win an election using any means necessary. And then have the video of what really happened hidden for months while terrorists use my death as an excuse to rob, loot, and burn cities down.

That would be awesome huh!?

And before you comment, I don't care what you have to say. Your opinion is irrelevant.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
Boy, I wish I could just decide to not go to work with no consequences based on a half truth and false narrative.

Maybe Ill stick a gun in to the belly of a pregnant woman and be a career criminal then die of a fentanyl overdose then get a horse drawn golden casket and state funeral attended by thousands and used by a political party to win an election using any means necessary. And then have the video of what really happened hidden for months while terrorists use my death as an excuse to rob, loot, and burn cities down.

That would be awesome huh!?

And before you comment, I don't care what you have to say. Your opinion is irrelevant.

- MBFlyerfan


Careful, for using facts and telling the whole story and not blindly following the media framed story, you are racist.
BroadSTmayhem
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2012

Aug 27 @ 1:47 PM ET
If the Flyers choose not to boycott, does that mean they win? I mean, there is a game scheduled tonight. If one team fails to appear, do they forfeit?
- jmatchett383


No. The Bucks weren’t forced to forfeit their game yesterday. If they had been, that would have certainly sent the wrong message.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
If the Flyers choose not to boycott, does that mean they win? I mean, there is a game scheduled tonight. If one team fails to appear, do they forfeit?
- jmatchett383


Yeah. Who knows. Was looking. Forward for the game tonight.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
The difference is that nobody gives a poop if you go to work or not, but I support your protesting.

oops, I said I wouldn't comment, OK, I'm really done this time.

- Dkos



Reality is that we shouldn't give a poop if the NBA doesn't go to work either.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
If they don't play tonight would the Hart/Elliot "issue" be moot given the extra rest time?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
No. The Bucks weren’t forced to forfeit their game yesterday. If they had been, that would have certainly sent the wrong message.
- BroadSTmayhem


Well did their opponent agree to forfeit as well?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
If they don't play tonight would the Hart/Elliot "issue" be moot given the extra rest time?
- Scoob


Depends if you're on Team Negative or not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
Allow me to say that I strongly disagree with this temperament. It is intellectually lazy, incorrect and is doing immense damage to this country.

The media is made up of people. People have opinions, which will often seep into their writing. The media has never not been biased in the sense it is derided today. FDR was paralyzed from the waist down and was on a wheelchair for most of his life. The media almost never covered that aspect. Eisenhower had a murky affair with a British woman. Also almost never written about. I can provide gadzillions of such examples which in today's world would be seen as political bias.

Most professions carry with them certain temperaments which correlate with politics. Most people in Chamber of Commerce, or manufacturing, or military tend to lean right. Most intellectual professions: academics, journalism, lean left. Finance used to lean right, now it is moving towards left. Tech is largely left.

It is quite easy to separate opinion from fact before making one's own assessment. I provide an algorithm.

1. Look at which publications have the most to lose by printing a story that could be false. Consider for example the WSJ. The editorial board is decidedly right of center (in the Pre-Trump sense). But it also bases the paper's reputation on accuracy. If it allows the opinion to seep too much into facts, and gets exposed, it loses intellectual credibility and readership. This is immensely important to the paper.

It is this intellectual prestige that someone like Murdoch covets and why he spent decades trying to buy WSJ before the family that owns it finally gave up it's resistance. It is why Trump called the NYT a "great, great, World jewel" after inauguration and said he has been a regular reader for all his life. It definitely exists and it is a useful tool to judge the likelihood of a paper printing a false story just to get clicks/readership.

2. Look if whether the story is being covered by other publications. It is one thing to have one paper manufacture something. Another to have all of them manufacture the same stuff.

3. Make sure to at least quickly scan the top news from all directions of political coverage. Look at NYT, Wapo, Fox, Breitbart, to be at least aware of what the issues floating around are.

4. Be careful of using a source that tends to validate what you want to hear. Fox has always made this its extremely overt business plan. To a lesser extent, CNN has seen the financial light and followed and is making a ton of money. Avoid Fox, CNN, MSNBC etc for anything other than just awareness.

5. Look at the nature of the story itself. How well researched is it? How many people have spoken on the record? What is the nature of the sources (are they high ups or just some disgruntled hacks?) Is the journalist who broke the story someone who has a reputation for being correct (Seymour Hersh/Bob Woodward and so on).

6. Never use Facebook or social media for anything related to news. If it is important enough, it will be validated by steps 1-2.

7.Look especially at some international agencies that are outside the left-right polarization in this country. The BBC, the Financial Times, the Economist are extremely quality news organizations. So, is the Globe and Mail in Canada and Melbourne Age and Sydney Herald in Australia. Those all cover US politics but don't have to do it in the heat of the moment.

8. Think who has the most to gain by painting the media as corrupt, biased etc.

9. Ignore the people who froth and fume and use MSM and so on. They are fighting a cultural fight, not an objective one. They are likely the same people who will use phrases like Deep State and Globalists and Elitist and so on. That is just 1-2 slippery steps away from Q-Anon. On the flip side, what news sources are intelligent, successfulpeople reading who have no skin in the game? Doctors, moderate politicians, CEOs, and so on.

10. Don't be taken in by people who equate intelligence with elitism. You can only ignore facts for the short run. In the long run, the facts will ignore your ignorance. Facts matter.

- PT21


To sum it up, this is another area of many that PT21 is an expert in. Another example of PT21 telling people what to do.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
If they don't play tonight would the Hart/Elliot "issue" be moot given the extra rest time?
- Scoob


I expect it’ll be moot if they cancel the rest of the playoffs.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
Well did their opponent agree to forfeit as well?
- jmatchett383


Sounds like av is of the mind that they should play and he’s getting attacked on sm because of it. Seems he expressed that he’s trying to remain focused on the talks at hand and getting lambasted
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
There has been 8 Flyer playoff games of which we're 5-3. When Ghost is playing the record is 2-2. When Hagg is in the lineup 4-1. They were in the lineup once together, the last win over the Habs. Yah, yah, yah, this player better than that... Score board... They win with Hagg in the line up, roll with it.
- leon neon


If you could prove to me that the reason why they win is because of Haag playing over Gostisbehere, then I'd be interested.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
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