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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 6:22 AM ET
And there will be even more tonight if AV will just do some of this:


- Bendecko


You know, at a glance, it looks like a mistake. But really, who hasn't fantasized about punching Ville Leino in the head every now and again?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 6:23 AM ET
Piling on is just the popular vote. I thought JvR played one of his better games tonight as well. Plus I don’t know what we should expect playing with Grant and Pitlick.
- SuperSchennBros


I agree that JvR did play one of his better games. Actually saw some NZ hustle and backchecking last night. It's not exactly a high bar, but it was at least better. Still needs to score out there, otherwise there are others who can do his job and more.
Flyers_1488
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly , PA
Joined: 05.15.2012

Aug 27 @ 6:59 AM ET
While not the only one, JVR is still underwhelming to me. Hardly noticed him at all out there today. Given that's it's a back-to-back, would Laughton be reinserted into lineup? I still think overall he has performed better than JVR.

I give up on the Ghost versus Hagg debate. Still would like to see Braun get some needed rest, but I understand why he has more cash in the bank with AV.

- Bendecko


Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 27 @ 7:11 AM ET
Some gambling sites have the series line, tied 1-1, currently at Isles -220 and Flyers +170. Thought that was pretty eye popping, isles have been good but they are not flat out dominating and the series is tied.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 27 @ 7:47 AM ET
Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
- Flyers_1488


You don’t say?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 27 @ 7:55 AM ET
Start the same, finish better.

GO FLYERS!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 8:11 AM ET
Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
- Flyers_1488


Hagg played over Ghost yesterday. The Flyers won yesterday. Therefore, the Flyers are always better with Hagg than Ghost.

Yesterday was Wednesday. The weather was nice yesterday. Therefore, the weather will always be nice on Wednesday.

https://www.merriam-webst....com/dictionary/causality
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Aug 27 @ 8:16 AM ET
You know, at a glance, it looks like a mistake. But really, who hasn't fantasized about punching Ville Leino in the head every now and again?
- jmatchett383


Well, Leino got paid so well by Buffalo that if you hit him just right, I'd expect coins will start pouring out of his orifices like a slot machine dispensing a winning combo.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Aug 27 @ 8:18 AM ET
Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
- Flyers_1488


Well, to clarify, I still think Braun should get a game off and Ghost come in for him, thus Hagg will still play.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Aug 27 @ 8:18 AM ET
Start Elliot.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 27 @ 8:19 AM ET
I would disagree. NAK has hustled his ass off, thrown several big hits, and had good efforts to win board battles and get it to the point. JVR on the other hand is completely useless and terrible.
- Richieattack18

I agree with this. If/ when he loses the puck he skates his rear off to retrieve it.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 27 @ 8:19 AM ET
Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
- Flyers_1488

Defense wins championships.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
Hagg played over Ghost yesterday. The Flyers won yesterday. Therefore, the Flyers are always better with Hagg than Ghost.

Yesterday was Wednesday. The weather was nice yesterday. Therefore, the weather will always be nice on Wednesday.

https://www.merriam-webst....com/dictionary/causality

- jmatchett383


I do t go on all the analytic sites and what not. But question. What is the teams record this year with Haag bs ghost in the lineup? Playoffs are a grind. And while ghost has played better as he is trying to keep his spot in the lineup, he is still not playing at the level in which people want him too. It comes down to keep him in to maybe help drive some offense but but lacks in his own end or a more stable defender that doesn’t provide as much offense. And this year that defender has provided similar offensive numbers.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
I agree that JvR did play one of his better games. Actually saw some NZ hustle and backchecking last night. It's not exactly a high bar, but it was at least better. Still needs to score out there, otherwise there are others who can do his job and more.
- jmatchett383

We can agree on this.

In my opinion the problem with the third line isn’t JvR playing every other night but Derek Grant playing every night. He’s a fourth line center playing on the third line, who has lost momentum since having a career season. If Claude Giroux can’t make Grant better, who can? JvR is a guy who needs to drive to the net and have talent feed him. Am I the only one who doesn’t expect Grant and Pitlick to be these players? If JvR plays with Coots and Jake, you probably see a difference player, not that I’m asking for this.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 27 @ 8:33 AM ET
Notice that we win more with Hagg in the line up that ass hat Ghost? I personally don't like ghost. I think Hagg bring some better size.
- Flyers_1488


If Ghost isn't scoring, he needs to be watching the game from a nice comfortable seat with a tasty drink and some nachos.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Aug 27 @ 8:39 AM ET
Not to be wet blanket here, but I think it bears watching what the NBA decides to do moving forward. If MLB, MLS, WNBA, etc. continue to show solidarity, the optics would be very bad if the NHL opts to play out their season.

On another note, I’d play Hart tomorrow. If Flyers go up 2 games to 1, I think you give Moose the net for game 4.

- BroadSTmayhem

It won’t be bad at all. Stop falling for the false narrative the media and certain athletes are spinning.
dramado
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Paradise, NF
Joined: 03.16.2018

Aug 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
I wouldn't be mad if they started Elliott tonight. Hart has obviously been great, but I'm sure he could use a night off on a back-to-back, especially considering how he played in the second game of the back-to-back in the 1st round. Elliott is a great goalie and I have no reason to think he can't handle what the Islanders bring to the table for one game.
Also, I like the team better when Hagg is in the lineup. You know what you're getting game-to-game with him. He might not be the skilled offensive-defenseman that Ghost is, but he keeps thing a lot more stable on the back end. We have enough guys that can jump up in the play if need be.
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
I thought JVR had good game and was noticeable on both ends at times. In the 2nd and 3rd he came very close to netting a goal. And then I believe late in the 3rd he had a strong back check covering for Myers or Sanheim (they pinched) and ultimately Broke/prevented a speedy 3 on 2 advantage for the isles.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
I do t go on all the analytic sites and what not. But question. What is the teams record this year with Haag bs ghost in the lineup? Playoffs are a grind. And while ghost has played better as he is trying to keep his spot in the lineup, he is still not playing at the level in which people want him too. It comes down to keep him in to maybe help drive some offense but but lacks in his own end or a more stable defender that doesn’t provide as much offense. And this year that defender has provided similar offensive numbers.
- Peter Richards


I honestly don't know their record with each, and I'm honestly not inclined to dig deep enough to find out. I do know that Ghost required knee surgery all year long (and last year as well) which limited his mobility.

I just hate the "We won yesterday without Ghost, so we're better without Ghost." A few years ago, there was a report published that stated that the team had a better record when Giroux played fewer minutes, correlating that Giroux playing more made the team worse. The real reason was that, when Giroux scored more points, the team had more goals, leading to being able to more evenly spread minutes as opposed to shortening the bench and increasing his usage. That's my point.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 8:44 AM ET
We can agree on this.

In my opinion the problem with the third line isn’t JvR playing every other night but Derek Grant playing every night. He’s a fourth line center playing on the third line, who has lost momentum since having a career season. If Claude Giroux can’t make Grant better, who can? JvR is a guy who needs to drive to the net and have talent feed him. Am I the only one who doesn’t expect Grant and Pitlick to be these players? If JvR plays with Coots and Jake, you probably see a difference player, not that I’m asking for this.

- SuperSchennBros


Well, who would you play as 3C/4C in place of Grant? Laughton isn't a realistic option as a C at this point. Giroux has been used almost exclusively at LW. Raffl is a winger.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 8:46 AM ET
It won’t be bad at all. Stop falling for the false narrative the media and certain athletes are spinning.
- login


The optics would be bad. Whether or not you find what's going on to be right or wrong, if EVERY OTHER sports league protests except for the NHL, the optics will be bad.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 27 @ 8:51 AM ET
The optics would be bad. Whether or not you find what's going on to be right or wrong, if EVERY OTHER sports league protests except for the NHL, the optics will be bad.
- jmatchett383


Dumba already called out the NHL last night. For always being “last to the party” compared to other sports.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 27 @ 8:54 AM ET
I thought JVR had good game and was noticeable on both ends at times. In the 2nd and 3rd he came very close to netting a goal. And then I believe late in the 3rd he had a strong back check covering for Myers or Sanheim (they pinched) and ultimately Broke/prevented a speedy 3 on 2 advantage for the isles.
- arichardson22


He played well enough to stay in. I’d put laughton in for grant at 3C for today at least
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
Dumba already called out the NHL last night. For always being “last to the party” compared to other sports.
- arichardson22

That’s such crap, yea just fall in line like everyone else. People put in a lot of hard work to make this bubble happen, and not only has it been successful it’s been great
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 27 @ 8:56 AM ET
He played well enough to stay in. I’d put laughton in for grant at 3C for today at least
- Just5


I also would put Laughts in and See how he responds. Hoping we get the round robin Laughton.
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