I'm going to call my boss today and tell him that I'm not coming to work due to protesting the situation. When he tells me I can't do that, I'll tell him he's denying my individuality as a human being. I'll let you know how it works out.
- MJL

You can make your own decision about what's important to you, and factor in the possible consequences. As can the athletes. The consequences of your decision are different than these athletes.

I really dont like the balance of the lines....some lines are overloaded with slow to react players.

Personally I'd like to see the following

G-Coots - Jake
Bee - Hayes - TK
JVR - Laughts -Raffl
Nak - Grant -Pitlick

Better balance of players who can cover for some of the slower back checkers

No, I think Hart should have stopped the second goal. Had no chance on the others.
- jmatchett383

I agree with this.

I really dont like the balance of the lines....some lines are overloaded with slow to react players.

Personally I'd like to see the following

G-Coots - Jake
Bee - Hayes - TK
JVR - Laughts -Raffl
Nak - Grant -Pitlick

Better balance of players who can cover for some of the slower back checkers
- juiced

Nice. Don’t mind this. Would consider flipping up NAK for jvr. Raff on lw. I don’t see Thompson sitting though.

I really dont like the balance of the lines....some lines are overloaded with slow to react players.

Personally I'd like to see the following

G-Coots - Jake
Bee - Hayes - TK
JVR - Laughts -Raffl
Nak - Grant -Pitlick

Better balance of players who can cover for some of the slower back checkers
- juiced

Why the Nate hate? He has been excellent in his defensive responsibilites as 4th line center. xcellent PKer.

These are certainly points to consider without fanning the flames.

I am not sure if the pointing of a taser is justification for shooting to kill, but yes, there are extenuating circumstances.

I don't think the issue here is racism per se though. Its police behavior (or misbehavior against minorities).
- PT21

Here is statistic:
in 2019 ~1000 people were killed by police in the US. 77% of them were not black (although, in 20% of the cases the race was documented as "unknown")
https://www.statista.com/...ath-by-us-police-by-race/

of 235 black people killed by police 224 were armed.

Do police procedures and policies need reevaluation? Are these policies and procedures racially biased? Arrive to your own conclusions

Here is statistic:
in 2019 ~100 people were killed by police in the US. 77% of them were not black (although, in 20% of the cases the race was documented as "unknown")
https://www.statista.com/...ath-by-us-police-by-race/

of 235 black people killed by police 224 were armed.

Do police procedures and policies need reevaluation? Are these policies and procedures racially biased? Arrive to your own conclusions
- missingmike

Right, but do you think they should keep Laughton at wing or moved him back to center for Grant?

You can make your own decision about what's important to you, and factor in the possible consequences. As can the athletes. The consequences of your decision are different than these athletes.
- Coburns_Nose

Without looking too far into the future, I hope Boston beats TB because there's no way we can.

Why the Nate hate? He has been excellent in his defensive responsibilites as 4th line center. xcellent PKer.
- PT21

Because he's an offensive black hole. When he's in the offensive zone, you pretty much only have 4 skaters out there.

Yes, he is hood defensively and kills penalties. But there's not a lot of room for Kent Manderville in the game today.

I could take it or leave it. Should you choose to speak out, you should have that right as long as it offends nobody. If you choose to stay quiet, that’s okay too.
- SuperSchennBros

Even speech that does has the right to be said

Right, but do you think they should keep Laughton at wing or moved him back to center for Grant?
- jmatchett383

Thank you for bringing us back to the scope of the thread.

Allow me to say that I strongly disagree with this temperament. It is intellectually lazy, incorrect and is doing immense damage to this country.

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- PT21

This is woefully ignorant, offbase and lacking in the critical thinking and logic that you so extort that you pride yourself upon.

Nice. Don’t mind this. Would consider flipping up NAK for jvr. Raff on lw. I don’t see Thompson sitting though.
- Peter Richards

Because this 3d line is actually offensively threatening....and I think Raffl is a better offensive weapon than NAK currently. Plus laughts and Raffl can offset JVR's consistent disregard for forechecking and back checking.

If JVR isnt as least on 3rd line...its basically pointless because he plays so dispassionately lately that there'd be no reason to be on a 4th line with more limited offensive players.

I think he has some offensive value with Laughts and Raffl, but not with Hayes line because quite frankly that line is suspect on back checking as constructed (minus Bee who always hustles) and they would probably get caved in.

LET'S GO FLYERS!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET'S GO FLYERS!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Lawless18

This!! I see some are trying to throw av under the bus for not chiming in on what’s going with sports boycotts etc. I have no prob with this.Maybe he’s focused on his job and the series. I think that’s ok. So if the isles don’t play we get the win right? Haha

'I'm forever near a stereo saying, 'What the (frank) is this garbage?' And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.'

-Nick Cave

Here is statistic:
in 2019 ~1000 people were killed by police in the US. 77% of them were not black (although, in 20% of the cases the race was documented as "unknown")
https://www.statista.com/...ath-by-us-police-by-race/

of 235 black people killed by police 224 were armed.

Do police procedures and policies need reevaluation? Are these policies and procedures racially biased? Arrive at your own conclusions
- missingmike

Anyone who posts data in such a sloppy way does not really deserve an answer, but since you posted this in a public forum, I will provide a complete answer for the sake of others before exiting.

1. Your first set of numbers does not control for population Black men are killed by Police at 2.5 times the rate of white men.

Source (there are many sources, I will provide a top rated journal):
https://www.pnas.org/cont...8e0----------------------

2. In the second set of numbers, you seem to suggest that is because Black men are more likely to be armed. This is largely believed to be incorrect. After controlling for gun possession, black men are still twice as likely to be killed than white men (https://onlinelibrary.wil...s/10.1111/1745-9133.12269)

Having said, in the interest of fairness, I should point out that other studies have found no statistical difference in shootings by police across racial groups when gun possession is factored in.


Data collection in this regard is very poor. It is only in the past 3 years that we have started gathering data systematically.

3. What is interesting in the above context is that when a gun was involved, white officers were much more likely to use deadly force in response than black officers when the neighborhood they were in was predominantly black. (there is more data about neighborhoods than race of person being shot!). This is from Nature, which is the world's most respected scientific journal.

I'm pissed about 80s fest (Motley Crue, Def Leopard, Posion, Joan Jett) getting cancelled.
- jmatchett383

Telling me. I was supposed to see g and r in Toronto in July. I’m still crying.

This is woefully ignorant, offbase and lacking in the critical thinking and logic that you so extort that you pride yourself upon.
- KINGKENZO

By extort you mean extol.

And are you serious or are you pulling my leg?

Anyone who posts data in such a sloppy way does not really deserve an answer, but since you posted this in a public forum, I will provide a complete answer for the sake of others before exiting.

1. Your first set of numbers does not control for population Black men are killed by Police at 2.5 times the rate of white men.

Source (there are many sources, I will provide a top rated journal):
https://www.pnas.org/cont...8e0----------------------

2. In the second set of numbers, you seem to suggest that is because Black men are more likely to be armed. This is largely believed to be incorrect. After controlling for gun possession, black men are still twice as likely to be killed than white men (https://onlinelibrary.wil...s/10.1111/1745-9133.12269)

Having said, in the interest of fairness, I should point out that other studies have found no statistical difference in shootings by police across racial groups when gun possession is factored in.


Data collection in this regard is very poor. It is only in the past 3 years that we have started gathering data systematically.

3. What is interesting in the above context is that when a gun was involved, white officers were much more likely to use deadly force in response than black officers when the neighborhood they were in was predominantly black. (there is more data about neighborhoods than race of person being shot!). This is from Nature, which is the world's most respected scientific journal.


- PT21

Good luck man. These guys are never wrong. Facts are fake. Excessive force is non existent. Hakstol was great. Etc.

By extort you mean extol.

And are you serious or are you pulling my leg?
- PT21

yes, extol..typo,
No, I'm not pulling your leg. I think the media is slanted, if you dont, that's your prerogative but dont tell me it's incorrect and intellectually lazy.

Without looking too far into the future, I hope Boston beats TB because there's no way we can.
- jmatchett383

Beat them both in the rr phase. It can be done.

yes, extol..typo,
No, I'm not pulling your leg. I think the media is slanted, if you dont, that's your prerogative but dont tell me it's incorrect and intellectually lazy.
- KINGKENZO

I gave you a detailed, step by step response where I argued that some level of slant is
1. Inevitable 2. Always existed and 3. Can be corrected,

and your response to this was, dude I believe what I believe, dont call me intellectually lazy,thus proving that you are exactly what you claim not be?

Thanks for clearing that up.

Anyone who posts data in such a sloppy way does not really deserve an answer, but since you posted this in a public forum, I will provide a complete answer for the sake of others before exiting.

1. Your first set of numbers does not control for population Black men are killed by Police at 2.5 times the rate of white men.

Source (there are many sources, I will provide a top rated journal):
https://www.pnas.org/cont...8e0----------------------

2. In the second set of numbers, you seem to suggest that is because Black men are more likely to be armed. This is largely believed to be incorrect. After controlling for gun possession, black men are still twice as likely to be killed than white men (https://onlinelibrary.wil...s/10.1111/1745-9133.12269)

Having said, in the interest of fairness, I should point out that other studies have found no statistical difference in shootings by police across racial groups when gun possession is factored in.


Data collection in this regard is very poor. It is only in the past 3 years that we have started gathering data systematically.

3. What is interesting in the above context is that when a gun was involved, white officers were much more likely to use deadly force in response than black officers when the neighborhood they were in was predominantly black. (there is more data about neighborhoods than race of person being shot!). This is from Nature, which is the world's most respected scientific journal.


- PT21

Your condescension is not appreciated.
Now to your points:
1. Why are you normalizing by a whole population and not by killed/ police interaction of the population? Would you count whale sharks in the shark killer species?
2. My second point was not about "black people are more armed than white". It was not about racial disparity at all. It was more to the point of potentially excessive force and police policies and procedures.

Let's finish it here and return to hockey.

Beat them both in the rr phase. It can be done.
- Scoob

Okay...Tampa Bay will likely be a much harder opponent for the Flyers to beat in a best-of-7 series.