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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
I gave you a detailed, step by step response where I argued that some level of slant is
1. Inevitable 2. Always existed and 3. Can be corrected,

and your response to this was, dude I believe what I believe, dont call me intellectually lazy,thus proving that you are exactly what you claim not be?

Thanks for clearing that up.

- PT21



You really are a pretentious jo
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:11 PM ET
Here is statistic:
in 2019 ~1000 people were killed by police in the US. 77% of them were not black (although, in 20% of the cases the race was documented as "unknown")
https://www.statista.com/...ath-by-us-police-by-race/

of 235 black people killed by police 224 were armed.

Do police procedures and policies need reevaluation? Are these policies and procedures racially biased? Arrive to your own conclusions

- missingmike



Get out of here with your facts and statistics.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:11 PM ET
Good luck man. These guys are never wrong. Facts are fake. Excessive force is non existent. Hakstol was great. Etc.
- hereticpride


To be honest, I have started this trend of providing detailed responses not so much to convince these guys (biases are emotionally satisfying) but to do my own bit in what I see is the race to the lowest denominator in the social media where I participate anyway.

missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Aug 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Good luck man. These guys are never wrong. Facts are fake. Excessive force is non existent. Hakstol was great. Etc.
- hereticpride



Are you?
Is not this a profiling that you so adamantly oppose?

Let's not use wide brush strokes on everyone.
dramado
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Paradise, NF
Joined: 03.16.2018

Aug 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
I gave you a detailed, step by step response where I argued that some level of slant is
1. Inevitable 2. Always existed and 3. Can be corrected,

and your response to this was, dude I believe what I believe, dont call me intellectually lazy,thus proving that you are exactly what you claim not be?

Thanks for clearing that up.

- PT21


Dude, take your head out of your ass and tone down the condescension for once.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Your condescension is not appreciated.
Now to your points:
1. Why are you normalizing by a whole population and not by killed/ police interaction of the population? Would you count whale sharks in the shark killer species?
2. My second point was not about "black people are more armed than white". It was not about racial disparity at all. It was more to the point of potentially excessive force and police policies and procedures.

Let's finish it here and return to hockey.

- missingmike


While I agree, you don't get to do the whole, "I'm gonna disagree with you and get the last word and then no one can talk about it any more" move. Bad form.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
You really are a pretentious jo
- KINGKENZO


And you are a low level,insecure twat who cannot handle the cool demolition of intellectual biases through logic.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Dude, take your head out of your ass and tone down the condescension for once.
- dramado


Too much condensation. Use less ice.

ICE! That's what they play hockey on, right!!!

Anything hockey related going on tonight!?!?
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Aug 27 @ 1:14 PM ET
While I agree, you don't get to do the whole, "I'm gonna disagree with you and get the last word and then no one can talk about it any more" move. Bad form.
- jmatchett383

it was a suggestion not an order.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
And you are a low level,insecure twat who cannot handle the cool demolition of intellectual biases through logic.
- PT21

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
Dude, take your head out of your ass and tone down the condescension for once.
- dramado


It was fact based. I gave a long,logical response, and his response was: I believe what I believe.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:19 PM ET
It was fact based. I gave a long,logical response, and his response was: I believe what I believe.
- PT21


I believe I can fly. Fly. Like the Flyers.

Flyers doing anything today/tonight?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:21 PM ET
It was fact based. I gave a long,logical response, and his response was: I believe what I believe.
- PT21



PT21 HAS POSTED
His logic is the end all be all. Be damned if you dont fall in line after he hath spoken!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
Okay...Tampa Bay will likely be a much harder opponent for the Flyers to beat in a best-of-7 series.
- jmatchett383


Agreed
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
Thompson has been OK but he's wasted some possessions by trying east/west plays that aren't there instead of getting the puck deeper

If your defensive minded 4th line player is doing too much of that then I don't know why they're in the lineup
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
Telling me. I was supposed to see g and r in Toronto in July. I’m still crying.
- Hextall271




So far since this happened, I have had The Darkness, Styx, Better Than Ezra, Collective Soul and about 10 of my own shows cancelled all up and down the east coast, western PA, and Ohio.

Its killing the entertainment industry.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
PT21 HAS POSTED
His logic is the end all be all. Be damned if you dont fall in line after he hath spoken!

- KINGKENZO


I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, want to pull up tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
I believe I can fly. Fly. Like the Flyers.

Flyers doing anything today/tonight?

- jmatchett383

We shall see. Isles I’m afraid will come out strong. Not sure if I’d start hart tonight but get what ppl say as he is our number one.
dramado
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Paradise, NF
Joined: 03.16.2018

Aug 27 @ 1:24 PM ET
It was fact based. I gave a long,logical response, and his response was: I believe what I believe.
- PT21



Well, by reading your posts here, it's fact-based that you condescend regularly.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
So far since this happened, I have had The Darkness, Styx, Better Than Ezra, Collective Soul and about 10 of my own shows cancelled all up and down the east coast, western PA, and Ohio.

Its killing the entertainment industry.

- MBFlyerfan


Is your band those "Rolling Stones" guys I've heard about?

And wow, Better Than Ezra is still around?
Gogol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.16.2017

Aug 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
"If knowledge hangs around your neck like pearls instead of chains you are a lucky man."
O Lucky Man (Alan Price)

We have too many unlucky on this board.

PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
Your condescension is not appreciated.
Now to your points:
1. Why are you normalizing by a whole population and not by killed/ police interaction of the population? Would you count whale sharks in the shark killer species?
2. My second point was not about "black people are more armed than white". It was not about racial disparity at all. It was more to the point of potentially excessive force and police policies and procedures.

Let's finish it here and return to hockey.

- missingmike


I am normalizing police deaths by rates of deaths per 100,000 and and rates of deadly encounter conditional on gun possession.

If you are saying that normalizing should occur also taking into account frequency of such armed encounters which were not deadly, I agree of course, but that data is not available.

As for condescension, 1. If it existed, you deserve it with your initial post 2. Get over it and address substance and 3. None was deliberately intended, so I am sorry it seeped into post. 👍
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:26 PM ET
We shall see. Isles I’m afraid will come out strong. Not sure if I’d start hart tonight but get what ppl say as he is our number one.
- Peter Richards


For sure, they'll have a lot of confidence from the 3rd period yesterday and try to blitzkrieg us. Gonna have to push back harder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 1:26 PM ET
I am normalizing police deaths by rates of deaths per 100,000 and and rates of deadly encounter conditional on gun possession.

If you are saying that normalizing should occur also taking into account frequency of such armed encounters which were not deadly, I agree of course, but that data is not available.

As for condescension, 1. If it existed, you deserve it with your initial post 2. Get over it and address substance and 3. None was deliberately intended, so I am sorry it seeped into post. 👍

- PT21


FOR (frank)'S SAKE PLEASE STOP! ALL OF YOU!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 27 @ 1:28 PM ET
PT21 HAS POSTED
His logic is the end all be all. Be damned if you dont fall in line after he hath spoken!

- KINGKENZO


I am sorry to see you devolve into a moron.

I do hope this phase is temporary.

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