I think a player like Torres is more valuable for the nucks, need a guy that the other team needs to be aware of. A designated goon doesn't do anything but play into Reeves plan.

I wish we had a player or two that were attacking Stone, Patches, Theodore each and every shift.
- belcherbd

I don't think anyone has mentioned having a goon, most want a valuable heavyweight like a Reaves or Byfuglien or a Tom Wilson, guys who can actually play the game.
These guys are valuable, which is why a Barclay Goodrow got the Sharks a 1st round pick from Tampa, as did Reaves a couple years back from the Penguins.

I know, but my point is that I think it is a lame #narrative just as it was in 2011. Being outmuscled isn't why the knights are outplaying the Canucks.
- belcherbd

It's not the only reason, no, but it's a part of it. Hughes getting heavily rubbed out in the corner led directly to the goal. Guys are pulling up or dishing a puck quickly so to not get run. Their heaviness on the forecheck is leading to a lot more turnovers than our fly-by forecheck. It all adds up, and there seems to me to be a lack of fight in the Canucks right now (mentally).

Vegas is also just more mature too. Our best players are 20-23 vs. 25-30.

And I mean physically more mature.

Reaves, the way to shut him up is score and be ahead in the game while he sits on the bench with nothing to do.

I agree though, every team needs that one guy who might, just might do something crazy. Like a Dorset, torres, Shawn Thornton, or whoever.

It's not the only reason, no, but it's a part of it. Hughes getting heavily rubbed out in the corner led directly to the goal. Guys are pulling up or dishing a puck quickly so to not get run. Their heaviness on the forecheck is leading to a lot more turnovers than our fly-by forecheck. It all adds up, and there seems to me to be a lack of fight in the Canucks right now (mentally).
- NewYorkNuck

That's because they're scared.

It's not the only reason, no, but it's a part of it. Hughes getting heavily rubbed out in the corner led directly to the goal. Guys are pulling up or dishing a puck quickly so to not get run. Their heaviness on the forecheck is leading to a lot more turnovers than our fly-by forecheck. It all adds up, and there seems to me to be a lack of fight in the Canucks right now (mentally).
- NewYorkNuck

I'd say Toffoli hanging back and hooking Reeves all the way down the ice while an outnumbered chance unfolded had more to do with it that the Reeves on Hughes hit at the other end. Hughes and Reeves were both out of the play. Toffoli put himself out of the play. Stephenson was all alone for the goal.

Canucks dont have anyone to deal with Reeves and he certainly wasnt going to take the bait from Toffoli while his team is on an odd man rush.

Vegas is also just more mature too. Our best players are 20-23 vs. 25-30.

And I mean physically more mature.

Reaves, the way to shut him up is score and be ahead in the game while he sits on the bench with nothing to do.

I agree though, every team needs that one guy who might, just might do something crazy. Like a Dorset, torres, Shawn Thornton, or whoever.
- canucksfan1944

We tried to get that type player but he had concussion issues.

We tried to get that type player but he had concussion issues.
- VANTEL

True. Its unfortunate but I felt from day one that Ferland's health would be wishful thinking.

Jonah Gadjovich for 2020-21 roster, if his skating improves.

True. Its unfortunate but I felt from day one that Ferland's health would be wishful thinking.
- boonerbuck

He was cleared to play . I haven't seen Bo using his weight to hit some people same with Jake.

I have Vegas going to the Cup so I keep in mind we are playing with house money and make the adjustments in the off season

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOx2

I'd say Toffoli hanging back and hooking Reeves all the way down the ice while an outnumbered chance unfolded had more to do with it that the Reeves on Hughes hit at the other end. Hughes and Reeves were both out of the play. Toffoli put himself out of the play. Stephenson was all alone for the goal.

Canucks dont have anyone to deal with Reeves and he certainly wasnt going to take the bait from Toffoli while his team is on an odd man rush.
- boonerbuck

I would say it was another poorly timed pinch by the young defenseman

Keep it simple: fast pucks out of the zone, forecheck, shots and rebounds

Dirty goals are good!

He was cleared to play . I haven't seen Bo using his weight to hit some people same with Jake.

I have Vegas going to the Cup so I keep in mind we are playing with house money and make the adjustments in the off season
- VANTEL

Bo is too busy leading the playoffs in goals.

...and he scores again to tie it.

2nd point for Miller.

Bo is too busy leading the playoffs in goals.

...and he scores again to tie it.

- boonerbuck

Your welcome

I don't think anyone has mentioned having a goon, most want a valuable heavyweight like a Reaves or Byfuglien or a Tom Wilson, guys who can actually play the game.
These guys are valuable, which is why a Barclay Goodrow got the Sharks a 1st round pick from Tampa, as did Reaves a couple years back from the Penguins.
- Reubenkincade

I always viewed Brashear as a goon, which is what I was referring too. Reaves is a new age goon but still one IMO. It's not like he's peak Lucic.

Reeves, Buff, Wilson....one of these things don't belong.

Your welcome
- VANTEL

...always happens to me too.

SUPERMARKY

He was cleared to play . I haven't seen Bo using his weight to hit some people same with Jake.

I have Vegas going to the Cup so I keep in mind we are playing with house money and make the adjustments in the off season
- VANTEL

They have been dishing out all over the ice and cashed in on the even up goal.

Marky now looking for a 6.5 cap hit to stay with the team

I always viewed Brashear as a goon, which is what I was referring too. Reaves is a new age goon but still one IMO. It's not like he's peak Lucic.
- belcherbd

In an age of HW's and he was the best, scored a bit too.

Boys waking up?

I always viewed Brashear as a goon, which is what I was referring too. Reaves is a new age goon but still one IMO. It's not like he's peak Lucic.
- belcherbd

I guy who can actually play, that hits, has some offense and defensive skills is a goon because he also can fight?
I call that a very valuable addition to a hockey team.

Boys waking up?
- VANTEL

A different looking 2nd period for once...