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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
If Quinn doesn't change the D strategy to start bodying people up at the blue line he isn't going to make it at this level. When you have a goalie who handles the puck as well as Shesty does you force the other team to dump the puck in as often as possible so that he can retrieve it and send it right back out.

I can maybe understand not committing to that with Henrik back there but Shesty is like Brodeur or Turco 2.0

- Maskdman3


Yeah, I just think it would be tough for the D to switch systems depending on the goalie. With Shesty hopefully playing the majority of the games next year, it should help the system tremendously. At least thats what i'm hoping
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 2 @ 12:35 PM ET
Yeah to clarify, I think the system should be overhauled based on Shesty being the #1 guy moving forward rather than change based on who is in net. The system might not be as effective when the backup plays but the system should be built for the 60 games plus playoffs that Shesty should be playing.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:37 PM ET
Yeah, I just think it would be tough for the D to switch systems depending on the goalie. With Shesty hopefully playing the majority of the games next year, it should help the system tremendously. At least thats what i'm hoping
- mdw7413



Perhaps the hiring of JM answers that.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Montreal acquiring Jake Allen is definitely a curious development
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yeah to clarify, I think the system should be overhauled based on Shesty being the #1 guy moving forward rather than change based on who is in net. The system might not be as effective when the backup plays but the system should be built for the 60 games plus playoffs that Shesty should be playing.
- Maskdman3

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:44 PM ET
Perhaps the hiring of JM answers that.
- mames11


Yeah he is running the PK and defense. Will be interesting.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Sep 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
Satan never playing for the devils is the most over sighted thing in history haha
- Slimtj100

Really wanted to buy a Satan Rangers sweater.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Sep 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Yeah, I just think it would be tough for the D to switch systems depending on the goalie. With Shesty hopefully playing the majority of the games next year, it should help the system tremendously. At least thats what i'm hoping
- mdw7413

Good point about consistent goalie style.
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Montreal acquiring Jake Allen is definitely a curious development
- jimbro83



Yeah...I don't get that. Habs are now committed to $15M on goal tending. Not sure what this is about. It's a sure salary dump for St. Luis, but what are the benefits for Montreal? Something amiss with Price?
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Sep 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Hank returning to NY for kids start of school year. So much for retiring in order to play in the SHL.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Hank returning to NY for kids start of school year. So much for retiring in order to play in the SHL.
- mames11

Boston has schools too as far as I know
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
Yeah...I don't get that. Habs are now committed to $15M on goal tending. Not sure what this is about. It's a sure salary dump for St. Luis, but what are the benefits for Montreal? Something amiss with Price?
- mames11


I mean they literally had like a thousands draft picks this year so sending a 3rd is no big deal and they have plenty of cap space

it's just weird

and I assume the Blues getting rid of Jake has something to do with getting Pietrangelo signed but Binnington looked shaky in playoffs and then he's a UFA himself after this season

maybe a landing spot for Georgiev in a deal?
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
I mean they literally had like a thousands draft picks this year so sending a 3rd is no big deal and they have plenty of cap space

it's just weird

and I assume the Blues getting rid of Jake has something to do with getting Pietrangelo signed but Binnington looked shaky in playoffs and then he's a UFA himself after this season

maybe a landing spot for Georgiev in a deal?

- jimbro83



Or Hank? Contender here with the Blues.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 2 @ 1:11 PM ET
I mean they literally had like a thousands draft picks this year so sending a 3rd is no big deal and they have plenty of cap space

it's just weird

and I assume the Blues getting rid of Jake has something to do with getting Pietrangelo signed but Binnington looked shaky in playoffs and then he's a UFA himself after this season

maybe a landing spot for Georgiev in a deal?

- jimbro83

hank, we eat half the salary
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 2 @ 1:12 PM ET
Or Hank? Contender here with the Blues.
- mames11


well even if they took half of Hank's salary, that's the amount of money Jake Allen was making in the first place

Georgiev will definitely get less than that
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
Blueshirt banter have a couple of interesting names for LHD targets..Dumolin and Chycrun. Obviously trades, but both would be great partners for Trouba. They’d have a great top 4.

Dumolin is probably a top 5 defensive defenseman in the league. Very underrated. No offense but we really wouldn’t need that
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 2 @ 1:15 PM ET
Blueshirt banter have a couple of interesting names for LHD targets..Dumolin and Chycrun. Obviously trades, but both would be great partners for Trouba. They’d have a great top 4.

Dumolin is probably a top 5 defensive defenseman in the league. Very underrated. No offense but we really wouldn’t need that

- Slimtj100

I am telling you get excited. We are trading for a 2nd line Center and a 2nd pair LH defenseman this offseason. Dream away TJ
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 2 @ 1:15 PM ET
Blueshirt banter have a couple of interesting names for LHD targets..Dumolin and Chycrun. Obviously trades, but both would be great partners for Trouba. They’d have a great top 4.

Dumolin is probably too 5 defensive defenseman in the league. Very underrated

- Slimtj100


problem is if they trade for someone like Chychrun, and they still have Tony D

then they have 4 D they have to protect in expansion draft and you can only protect 3

as of now they'll have to protect Trouba, Tony D and Lindgren

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:16 PM ET
problem is if they trade for someone like Chychrun, and they still have Tony D

then they have 4 D they have to protect in expansion draft and you can only protect 3

as of now they'll have to protect Trouba, Tony D and Lindgren

- jimbro83

I’m assuming Deangelo is gonzo
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Sep 2 @ 1:17 PM ET
I am telling you get excited. We are trading for a 2nd line Center and a 2nd pair LH defenseman this offseason. Dream away TJ
- TPC

They have to make a trade. They have so much excess on the wings now, and bigger needs
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 2 @ 1:18 PM ET
They have to make a trade. They have so much excess on the wings now, and bigger needs
- Slimtj100

They have one of the top 5 farm systems in the league. They don't have to trade it all but they have excess prospects, picks and young players where they can get creative in how they acquire these players to add to the core
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Sep 2 @ 1:22 PM ET
problem is if they trade for someone like Chychrun, and they still have Tony D

then they have 4 D they have to protect in expansion draft and you can only protect 3

as of now they'll have to protect Trouba, Tony D and Lindgren

- jimbro83



Since this blog is about the Rangers having enough in Miller/Lundqvist, etc. on D, then I'm going with "yes, the Rangers have enough in the system". I don't want any big trades in 2020 (at the very least no D trades) and make summer of 21 the time for big moves. I think they'll be more action then with a clearer cap picture and the expansion draft providing opportunities, as well.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
Since this blog is about the Rangers having enough in Miller/Lundqvist, etc. on D, then I'm going with "yes, the Rangers have enough in the system". I don't want any big trades in 2020 (at the very least no D trades) and make summer of 21 the time for big moves. I think they'll be more action then with a clearer cap picture and the expansion draft providing opportunities, as well.
- WineryDog

I kind of think the other way a little bit. Not that I want a huge trade but with the uncertainty in the cap going forward maybe now is the time to try a pry a player the Rangers really want away from the team. The fear of a flat cap and uncertainty in future income for teams may make them more eager to move someone now
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Sep 2 @ 1:27 PM ET
They have one of the top 5 farm systems in the league. They don't have to trade it all but they have excess prospects, picks and young players where they can get creative in how they acquire these players to add to the core
- TPC



That's true, but it also applies to the Kings, as well. Plus, they've got $20 million in cap space and another $10 million coming off the books each of the next 2 years! If they decide to be players in the trade market, I could see them outbidding or driving the price up for the Rangers. Just a thought as we see how things play out.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Sep 2 @ 1:29 PM ET
I kind of think the other way a little bit. Not that I want a huge trade but with the uncertainty in the cap going forward maybe now is the time to try a pry a player the Rangers really want away from the team. The fear of a flat cap and uncertainty in future income for teams may make them more eager to move someone now
- TPC



I get that. My question would be: how do the Rangers fit them under the cap both A) now and B) down the road if it's a long term deal they're acquiring? Unless the trade is a no brainer, or for a player with a short contract, I'm not seeing anything that really makes sense for them to get.
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