Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
|
|
|
Who's your RH D that you are targeting in this scenario? - CallmeTiny
Demko/JV for Pesce 24yrs 4m til 2023/24?
Allows cap savings if Tanev wants too much or walks. Also if Tanev signs a short Covid deal.
Hughes Pesce
Edler Myers
OJ/Rathbone ??? |
|
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
|
|
|
Demko/JV for Pesce 24yrs 4m til 2023/24?
Allows cap savings if Tanev wants too much or walks. Also if Tanev signs a short Covid deal.
Hughes Pesce
Edler Myers
OJ/Rathbone ??? - Nighthawk
So how many more JV and Demko trade scenarios will get posted (not directed at you) after JV scores series winning goal with Demko shutting the door the other way? |
|
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
|
|
|
- VANTEL
They took Horvat's goal away? |
|
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
|
|
|
- Nucker101
#teamwhiner |
|
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
|
|
|
I had us 3-2. Who had 3-1? - Nighthawk
I had 4-2 Nucks. Why did Horvat get screwed on his goal? |
|
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Twitter Joined: 08.11.2006
|
|
|
I had 4-2 Nucks. Why did Horvat get screwed on his goal? - LordHumungous
Offside. and everyone was tired as hell to play 00.1 second left. |
|
VanHockeyGuy
|
|
|
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
|
|
|
I see Tanner's no longer a blogger on HB |
|
Marwood
|
|
|
Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
|
|
|
#teamwhiner - LordHumungous
He was responding to someone saying they thought Demko was over-rated, so once again you look like the whiner. |
|
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
|
|
|
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
|
|
|
And you wonder why everyone thinks you're a c*nt. - VanHockeyGuy
Called sarcasm you (frank)ing redneck |
|
|
|
Offside. and everyone was tired as hell to play 00.1 second left. - Fidel
Sorry flagged by mistake.
Those bastards |
|
|
|
Goldobin and Podkolzin's season start today . Goldy had a beautiful bar down goal in the pre-season. He still remains a Canuck Prospect until the end of the year |
|
|
|
I was just listening that stupid fawk Buttkiss on the radio and he said "up to now Demko has been a huge disappointment in Vancouver...." - Based on WHAT??
Other than Donnie (who's opinion is notoriously wrong ) does anyone see how that's justifiable or true?
If you look around the league most starting goalies follow the same route in terms of development - 1-2 years post draft they play either College,Junior or European leagues - then 1-2 years AHL - then they slowly over the course of 1-2 years begin backup duty -20-35 starts and then by D+4/5/6 they're a starter if everything goes well/according to plan. There are outliers like Bobrovsky, Price, Hart that are good enough to skip some steps but it's rare. Look at someone like Hellebuyck, he had a very similar route (and numbers) along the way to Demko in terms of development. If Marky prices himself out of resigning I don't see any reason why Demko won't be a quality starter in the future.
In terms of the "Demko looks shaky" comments - obviously! what first year backup goalie wouldn't from time to time? You have to be realistic about things. Looking back there's been maybe 4-5 games out of the 27 starts that he got lit up, other than that he and his numbers are solid. At some point every current starter had to be given a shot.
|
|
|
|
Goldobin and Podkolzin's season start today . Goldy had a beautiful bar down goal in the pre-season. He still remains a Canuck Prospect until the end of the year - VANTEL
Following/routing for this kid doesnt matter anymore (it barely did to begin with) |
|
|
|
I was just listening that stupid fawk Buttkiss on the radio and he said "up to now Demko has been a huge disappointment in Vancouver...." - Based on WHAT??
Other than Donnie (who's opinion is notoriously wrong ) does anyone see how that's justifiable or true?
If you look around the league most starting goalies follow the same route in terms of development - 1-2 years post draft they play either College,Junior or European leagues - then 1-2 years AHL - then they slowly over the course of 1-2 years begin backup duty -20-35 starts and then by D+4/5/6 they're a starter if everything goes well/according to plan. There are outliers like Bobrovsky, Price, Hart that are good enough to skip some steps but it's rare. Look at someone like Hellebuyck, he had a very similar route (and numbers) along the way to Demko in terms of development. If Marky prices himself out of resigning I don't see any reason why Demko won't be a quality starter in the future.
In terms of the "Demko looks shaky" comments - obviously! what first year backup goalie wouldn't from time to time? You have to be realistic about things. Looking back there's been maybe 4-5 games out of the 27 starts that he got lit up, other than that he and his numbers are solid. At some point every current starter had to be given a shot. - Brooks_Light
Huge disappointment ? Probably not.
Reliable ? Probably not.
Someone said the day I think it was Vintsy that goalies are a funny group. Demko has shown in the past he can be rattled early but then after will settle in and more than a few times , by that time is too late.
I think most here would like a goalie tandem of Demko Marky but because of the E Draft is very slim chance that it will happen. I think that is the bigger picture why fans here don't want to get attached to Demko.
|
|
|
|
So how many more JV and Demko trade scenarios will get posted (not directed at you) after JV scores series winning goal with Demko shutting the door the other way? - NuckUp
I’d be open to a Demko trade, assuming Markstrom resigns for a reasonable $ / term. Maybe wait until the cut-off before having to expose a goaltender in the Seattle expansion draft?
JV has shown, in the three series, that he is still “potential” and not an impactful contributor. In my opinion, he has played himself out of a role and I’d be happy to see him moved in order to strengthen our RHD. I don’t see how scoring a series-winning goal changes that, unless he massively steps up for the next two games and shows something more than he has. |
|
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
|
|
|
He was responding to someone saying they thought Demko was over-rated, so once again you look like the whiner. - Marwood
I just thought it was appropriate as you and #teamwhiner seem to always be in shambles these days...
|
|
|
|
For anyone wanting to watch the Podkolzin game
heres the link:
http://onhockey.tv/
Choose the Aliez or wstream link - it's usually the safest - but you might have to fight thru some pop ups!!
|
|
|
|
For anyone wanting to watch the Podkolzin game
heres the link:
http://onhockey.tv/
Choose the Aliez or wstream link - it's usually the safest - but you might have to fight thru some pop ups!! - Brooks_Light
|
|
|
|
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
· 15m
Canadiens acquire Jake Allen and a 7th-round pick in 2022 from the Blues in return for a 3rd- and 7th-round pick in 2020.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I said yesterday Habs were looking for a goalie. Lots of speculation they want to move Price.
Blues clearing space for Pietrangelo |
|
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
|
|
|
I get that.
I imagine Juolevi will make the team next year and also later on Podkolzen . That will give you a pretty young line up already so I don't mind banking a few picks . I would want to use the 2021 picks instead as asset management.
Either way. - VANTEL
I think Juolevi will be on the team, as well as Rathbone potentially as a number 7. Hoglander has a chance to be on the third line (probably after spending a couple months in the AHL), with PodK coming the year after.
What I'd love to see the Canucks do this offseason..:
- Package Jake (with a pick or prospect or Roussel) for a solid young RHD
- Trade Sutter for a low pick (a team like Edmonton or Winnipeg that need C depth)
- Somehow get rid of Loui
- Re-sign Tanev, Toffoli, and Leivo
- Decide between Marky and Demko, and trade Demko if it's Marky
Miller - EP - Boeser
Pearson - Bo - Toffoli
Rous/Hoglander - Gaud - Leivo
Motte - Beags - MacEwen
Hughes - Tanev
Edler - RHD
Juolevi - Myers
Rathbone |
|
Marwood
|
|
|
Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
|
|
|
I was just listening that stupid fawk Buttkiss on the radio and he said "up to now Demko has been a huge disappointment in Vancouver...." - Based on WHAT??
Other than Donnie (who's opinion is notoriously wrong ) does anyone see how that's justifiable or true?
If you look around the league most starting goalies follow the same route in terms of development - 1-2 years post draft they play either College,Junior or European leagues - then 1-2 years AHL - then they slowly over the course of 1-2 years begin backup duty -20-35 starts and then by D+4/5/6 they're a starter if everything goes well/according to plan. There are outliers like Bobrovsky, Price, Hart that are good enough to skip some steps but it's rare. Look at someone like Hellebuyck, he had a very similar route (and numbers) along the way to Demko in terms of development. If Marky prices himself out of resigning I don't see any reason why Demko won't be a quality starter in the future.
In terms of the "Demko looks shaky" comments - obviously! what first year backup goalie wouldn't from time to time? You have to be realistic about things. Looking back there's been maybe 4-5 games out of the 27 starts that he got lit up, other than that he and his numbers are solid. At some point every current starter had to be given a shot. - Brooks_Light
I'm assuming you were listening to TSN? |
|
|
|
I think Juolevi will be on the team, as well as Rathbone potentially as a number 7. Hoglander has a chance to be on the third line (probably after spending a couple months in the AHL), with PodK coming the year after.
What I'd love to see the Canucks do this offseason..:
- Package Jake (with a pick or prospect or Roussel) for a solid young RHD
- Trade Sutter for a low pick (a team like Edmonton or Winnipeg that need C depth)
- Somehow get rid of Loui
- Re-sign Tanev, Toffoli, and Leivo
- Decide between Marky and Demko, and trade Demko if it's Marky
Miller - EP - Boeser
Pearson - Bo - Toffoli
Rous/Hoglander - Gaud - Leivo
Motte - Beags - MacEwen
Hughes - Tanev
Edler - RHD
Juolevi - Myers
Rathbone - NewYorkNuck
I think you are close . There are countless possibilities . I can't see Hughes OJ and Rathbone all LHD though.
Toffoli EP JTM
Pearson Bo Boeser
Motte Sutter Leivo
Lind Gauds /Beagle / Zack
Hughes Tanev
Edler McAvoy
OJ Myers
Benn
Gone Loui
Traded Jake Demko for McAvoy (or similar) or draft picks
Roussel Tryamkin Sven to MTL for anything
|
|
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund Joined: 04.18.2010
|
|
|
I think Juolevi will be on the team, as well as Rathbone potentially as a number 7. Hoglander has a chance to be on the third line (probably after spending a couple months in the AHL), with PodK coming the year after.
What I'd love to see the Canucks do this offseason..:
- Package Jake (with a pick or prospect or Roussel) for a solid young RHD
- Trade Sutter for a low pick (a team like Edmonton or Winnipeg that need C depth)
- Somehow get rid of Loui
- Re-sign Tanev, Toffoli, and Leivo
- Decide between Marky and Demko, and trade Demko if it's Marky
Miller - EP - Boeser
Pearson - Bo - Toffoli
Rous/Hoglander - Gaud - Leivo
Motte - Beags - MacEwen
Hughes - Tanev
Edler - RHD
Juolevi - Myers
Rathbone - NewYorkNuck
this seems reasonable and i could go along with this. as with everything, the devil will be in the details but a solid plan. |
|
|
|
With the Habs getting Jake Allen I am going to throw a wild pitch out there.
Montreal trades Max Domi and Carey Price to Pittsburg (who have no goalies under contract next year ) for Malkin and Murray or Jarry. |
|