1992
- VANTEL

1994.

If you’re going to eat salary why not just ride it out? I would “pay” anything if I was retaining 50%.
- 1970vintage

For the Canucks the cap space should be more valuable than the salary due. They're a young ascending team with a strong fan base and at least for the past 20ish years one of the most financially stable.

He's due little money and salary paid and cap space are $ for $. You can shed $4M in cap while paying out little money and the receiving team has a low cost NHL player. If you actually take back salary $$ then the deal is more attractive to them.

There are reportedly several teams looking to shed salary.

2003
- golfingsince

I was guessing .

2003
- golfingsince

Dan Cloutier...

Dan Cloutier...
- Fidel

Yes, the following series. First it was the flu.

I was guessing .

- VANTEL

Yeah coming from behind isn't their strong suit. They're going to need fresh legs in every game to have a chance of pulling it off.

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...E2%80%931_series_deficits

"The Boston Red Sox of MLB and the Vancouver Canucks of NHL each overcame 3–1 deficits the most at three times, while the Washington Capitals of NHL blew 3–1 leads the most at five times, followed by the St. Louis Cardinals of MLB at four times (including twice in the World Series). Two teams have overcome 3–1 deficits multiple times in the single playoffs: the Kansas City Royals of MLB in 1985 and the Minnesota Wild of the NHL in 2003. Two teams have also overcome 3-1 deficits in a single playoffs only to have the favor returned to them: the Golden State Warriors of the NBA in 2016, and the Vancouver Canucks of the NHL in 2003"

I heard a few weeks back the asking price was Rafferty or Gaudette but there is so many false things out there.

I think if it did cost Rafferty and a second ( my guess) I don't see a problem seeing we don't have any clue about the 2021 draft class. If there was ever a year to move picks 2021 would be my choice.
- VANTEL

I could live with either of those. I mean, I could live with the 2021 first if it meant Jim could actually address the areas of need better. I’d still be pissed with him for getting in this situation but less pissed if he can find a way out of it, and learns some valuable lessons, like not signing Markstrom or Toffoli or Tanev to 6 year 36$m NTC contracts...

For the Canucks the cap space should be more valuable than the salary due. They're a young ascending team with a strong fan base and at least for the past 20ish years one of the most financially stable.

He's due little money and salary paid and cap space are $ for $. You can shed $4M in cap while paying out little money and the receiving team has a low cost NHL player. If you actually take back salary $$ then the deal is more attractive to them.

There are reportedly several teams looking to shed salary.
- golfingsince

Sorry, are you saying that retaining half his salary (not much) can equal greater cap savings? So, if the Canucks retain, say $1.0m in salary the other team “gets” $5m cap hit and the Canucks are charged with $1m?

I was thinking if they retain half the salary they also get charged with half the cap.

A bit behind in my CBA reading...

I could live with either of those. I mean, I could live with the 2021 first if it meant Jim could actually address the areas of need better. I’d still be pissed with him for getting in this situation but less pissed if he can find a way out of it, and learns some valuable lessons, like not signing Markstrom or Toffoli or Tanev to 6 year 36$m NTC contracts...
- 1970vintage

I think once again Tanev will be cheap.

I think in a season or two he and Edler could be your bottom pair. Again, lifetime Canuck taking a discount to stay with 1 team and win the cup.

These aren't the type of players you want to rid yourself of, they're players you want to have at a reduced salary and role. They're still in the top half of the roster in terms of importance.

I could live with either of those. I mean, I could live with the 2021 first if it meant Jim could actually address the areas of need better. I’d still be pissed with him for getting in this situation but less pissed if he can find a way out of it, and learns some valuable lessons, like not signing Markstrom or Toffoli or Tanev to 6 year 36$m NTC contracts...
- 1970vintage

Loui was a terrible idea right from the start . Get rid of the mistake and move on. Toffoli has 14 pts in 14 games 8 of those points are goals . I want to get him signed .

Sorry, are you saying that retaining half his salary (not much) can equal greater cap savings? So, if the Canucks retain, say $1.0m in salary the other team “gets” $5m cap hit and the Canucks are charged with $1m?

I was thinking if they retain half the salary they also get charged with half the cap.

A bit behind in my CBA reading...
- 1970vintage

What i'm saying is that if you retain $1M in actual dollars it's equal to $1M in cap savings.

Seeing as how his actual salary is low if you retain $$ he's near entry level salary with an inflated cap hit. Then again, even that is reduced and if you're shedding salary cap hit is relatively unimportant.

Loui was a terrible idea right from the start . Get rid of the mistake and move on. Toffoli has 14 pts in 14 games 8 of those points are goals . I want to get him signed .
- VANTEL

- VanHockeyGuy

I think they will get it done

5-0 Avs . Where's Lordy? I want to talk about Dallas goal tending .

Sorry, are you saying that retaining half his salary (not much) can equal greater cap savings? So, if the Canucks retain, say $1.0m in salary the other team “gets” $5m cap hit and the Canucks are charged with $1m?

I was thinking if they retain half the salary they also get charged with half the cap.

A bit behind in my CBA reading...
- 1970vintage

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson

the $3M bonus for 20/21 either got paid in July or due October not sure with new CBA or agreements on play in extension. Leaves $5M actual money for next 2 seasons.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson

the $3M bonus for 20/21 either got paid in July or due October not sure with new CBA or agreements on play in extension. Leaves $5M actual money for next 2 seasons.
- NuckUp

I believe he was paid July

5-0 Avs . Where's Lordy? I want to talk about Dallas goal tending .
- VANTEL

4 shots for Dallas that period. Crazy.

What i'm saying is that if you retain $1M in actual dollars it's equal to $1M in cap savings.

Seeing as how his actual salary is low if you retain $$ he's near entry level salary with an inflated cap hit. Then again, even that is reduced and if you're shedding salary cap hit is relatively unimportant.
- golfingsince

What I’m asking, is I’m not sure how the NHL assigns portions of salary cap to teams in cases where there is retained salary in a trade. Because actual salary and AAV are not often equal, does the NHL assign a proportional amount of salary cap, or is it dollar for dollar?

If the Canucks retain $1.0m and get charged 1.0m then it’s a $5.0m savings, but if $1.0m is 50% of the remaining salary and the NHL charges the Canucks with 50% of the remaining AAV then it’s only a savings of $3:0m. See what I’m saying? I just don’t know the answer.

4 shots for Dallas that period. Crazy.
- CubanBuffet

If the Avs get even decent goaltending they will be tough to stop, but if they get Tommy Salo (post Olympics) level tending they are in trouble.

5-0 Avs . Where's Lordy? I want to talk about Dallas goal tending .
- VANTEL

End of the first with 23 shots on goal

That team came to play tonight.

“Jacob Markstrom has faced 491 shots this post-season. That's 120 more pucks than the next goalie (Vasilevskiy - 371). Marky's been an absolute beast & has fought through it all with a solid 0.918 SV%. Pay this man #Canucks”


Interesting stat, jeez the Canucks are terrible defensively or they’re playing two really great teams?

What I’m asking, is I’m not sure how the NHL assigns portions of salary cap to teams in cases where there is retained salary in a trade. Because actual salary and AAV are not often equal, does the NHL assign a proportional amount of salary cap, or is it dollar for dollar?

If the Canucks retain $1.0m and get charged 1.0m then it’s a $5.0m savings, but if $1.0m is 50% of the remaining salary and the NHL charges the Canucks with 50% of the remaining AAV then it’s only a savings of $3:0m. See what I’m saying? I just don’t know the answer.
- 1970vintage

Nice article

End of the first with 23 shots on goal

That team came to play tonight.
- NewYorkNuck

“Jacob Markstrom has faced 491 shots this post-season. That's 120 more pucks than the next goalie (Vasilevskiy - 371). Marky's been an absolute beast & has fought through it all with a solid 0.918 SV%. Pay this man #Canucks”


Interesting stat, jeez the Canucks are terrible defensively or they’re playing two really great teams?
- Pacificgem

Yes.