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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
They were 18th overall in league standings when the season was shutdown, there’s a lot of fixin that would need to be done in the bottom six and on defence for them to climb into the top ten next season.

Because of their messy cap situation I just don’t see that being a possibility, but stranger things have happened.

- Pacificgem

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
They will have to give up some assets or max out on contract buyouts to get get out of this messy situation.
The team needs an upgrade at 3C and a physical defenseman or they can try o ride it out with this group,
Jake will be a casualty of any cap dump imo

- Reubenkincade



Jake will be a casualty of his antics.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
They will have to give up some assets or max out on contract buyouts to get get out of this messy situation.
The team needs an upgrade at 3C and a physical defenseman or they can try o ride it out with this group,
Jake will be a casualty of any cap dump imo

- Reubenkincade

Oh I think it can be done, but it’s going to take someone more intelligent than Jim Benning to figure it out. Toffoli’s been a huge help in the playoffs since coming back but I honestly don’t want them to re-sign him. I think Benning needs enough foresight to give a winger already in the organization, whomever that may be, a shot in the top six. They’ve gotta earn it, but they need opportunity.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
They were 18th overall in league standings when the season was shutdown, there’s a lot of fixin that would need to be done in the bottom six and on defence for them to climb into the top ten next season.

Because of their messy cap situation I just don’t see that being a possibility, but stranger things have happened.

- Pacificgem

But they can add a 1st to any package and then it doesn't cost them anything.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
Jake will be a casualty of his antics.
- VANTEL


That too.
He has been a big disappointment.i thought playoffs would be a coming out of sorts for him, other than the 1 game, he has been invisible.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:48 AM ET

- VANTEL

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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Jake will be a casualty of his antics.
- VANTEL

Word is he’s already requested a trade, I think you’ll see him packed and sent outta town. Good riddance.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
That too.
He has been a big disappointment.i thought playoffs would be a coming out of sorts for him, other than the 1 game, he has been invisible.

- Reubenkincade


If Jake had a good playoff Canucks would do everything to sign him . He has been bumped continuously throughout the year and playoffs. He has been bumped by Roussel Leivo Zack Loui Motte even though he eventually ends back up in the line up .

Pile that on with the number of off ice issues it makes it easy to move on from him despite his 18 goals.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
That too.
He has been a big disappointment.i thought playoffs would be a coming out of sorts for him, other than the 1 game, he has been invisible.

- Reubenkincade

Other than Gaudette the Canucks bottom six is an offensive blackhole, there needs to be massive changes there for the team to take a step forward next season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Word is he’s already requested a trade, I think you’ll see him packed and sent outta town. Good riddance.
- Pacificgem


Yeah we are now at year five and it has been a let down.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
Yeah we are now at year five and it has been a let down.
- VANTEL

For a 6th overall pick he’s been a MASSIVE disappointment, but it’s time to cut your loses and move on from him imo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Other than Gaudette the Canucks bottom six is an offensive blackhole, there needs to be massive changes there for the team to take a step forward next season.
- Pacificgem


I think this year you will see at least 2 changes on the bottom 6

I think Leivo coming back will be one of the changes.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:56 AM ET
Other than Gaudette the Canucks bottom six is an offensive blackhole, there needs to be massive changes there for the team to take a step forward next season.
- Pacificgem

But Beagle has a cup ring.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 11:57 AM ET
For a 6th overall pick he’s been a MASSIVE disappointment, but it’s time to cut your loses and move on from him imo.
- Pacificgem


Yeah he is a flake. Too bad because the city was pulling for him to be the guy we hoped for.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
But Beagle has a cup ring.
- Marwood

Dave Semenko has three, and both of them were/are poop players, but they served a purpose.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Other than Gaudette the Canucks bottom six is an offensive blackhole, there needs to be massive changes there for the team to take a step forward next season.
- Pacificgem


Gaudette does provide some offense in the bottom 6 but not much else.
I expect Kole Lind to be given every opportunity to be the 7th forward that can move up and down the lineup.
He provides a bit of nastiness and has skill.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Dave Semenko has three, and both of them were/are poop players, but they served a purpose.
- Pacificgem

On their cup winning teams.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Unfortunately there’s tie-breakers though, so 18th. All of these teams had either 77-78-79 points...all really close. Only Minnesota isn’t a young improving team, they’re old and declining.

Rangers
Flames
Canucks
Predators
Wild

- Pacificgem


If you're splitting hairs actually 17th: https://www.nhl.com/standings/2019/league

They're .001 better than the Rags and the Flames.

Flames aren't young and improving, lots of talk about resetting on their side. Preds aren't young and improving either. Only the Rangers, and they're no sure bet.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 12:04 PM ET
Gaudette does provide some offense in the bottom 6 but not much else.
I expect Kole Lind to be given every opportunity to be the 7th forward that can move up and down the lineup.
He provides a bit of nastiness and has skill.

- Reubenkincade



Yeah he had a good training camp at the return to play and I think he is going to replace Roussel. I watched him quite a bit on the Comets this year and man does he annoy other teams and he has some very nice passing skills. He also played a few games at center.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Oh I think it can be done, but it’s going to take someone more intelligent than Jim Benning to figure it out. Toffoli’s been a huge help in the playoffs since coming back but I honestly don’t want them to re-sign him. I think Benning needs enough foresight to give a winger already in the organization, whomever that may be, a shot in the top six. They’ve gotta earn it, but they need opportunity.
- Pacificgem


The problem is, what if the winger in the organization isn't ready for a top 6 role? Then you've sort of shot yourself in the foot for another year when your team should be pushing the issue.

Ideally, they could sign TT to a 3 year deal. I know that's not likely from his camp, though. That'd give enough time for Hoglander and Podkolzin to come over and push for that spot.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
Yeah he had a good training camp at the return to play and I think he is going to replace Roussel. I watched him quite a bit on the Comets this year and man does he annoy other teams and he has some very nice passing skills. He also played a few games at center.
- VANTEL



Makes him a perfect fit. Having a player that is skilled, an agitator and versatile makes a perfect 7th forward.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
The problem is, what if the winger in the organization isn't ready for a top 6 role? Then you've sort of shot yourself in the foot for another year when your team should be pushing the issue.

Ideally, they could sign TT to a 3 year deal. I know that's not likely from his camp, though. That'd give enough time for Hoglander and Podkolzin to come over and push for that spot.

- NewYorkNuck



If TT does want long term and big money I would look at trading for Perron. He had 25 G and 60 Pts and even today Blues are reported to be looking to clear more space for Pietrangelo. Perron has 2 years left at 4 M per.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
Makes him a perfect fit. Having a player that is skilled, an agitator and versatile makes a perfect 7th forward.
- Reubenkincade


I did not watch him at first because of his previous year stats but as the year went on you couldn't help not noticing him. It was a good selection . I think if he continues his path he will be a Canuck soon.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
The problem is, what if the winger in the organization isn't ready for a top 6 role? Then you've sort of shot yourself in the foot for another year when your team should be pushing the issue.

Ideally, they could sign TT to a 3 year deal. I know that's not likely from his camp, though. That'd give enough time for Hoglander and Podkolzin to come over and push for that spot.

- NewYorkNuck


As was mentioned earlier, Leivo would have to fill that top 6 role, until someone else comes along.
I think most of us would like o re-sign Toffolu, but ar well aware of the financial situation.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Sep 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
The problem is, what if the winger in the organization isn't ready for a top 6 role? Then you've sort of shot yourself in the foot for another year when your team should be pushing the issue.

Ideally, they could sign TT to a 3 year deal. I know that's not likely from his camp, though. That'd give enough time for Hoglander and Podkolzin to come over and push for that spot.

- NewYorkNuck

imo canucks are prone for a one step back next before taking 2 steps forward. barring a shuffle i think we all agree canucks will get 2 of toffoli/tanev/markstrom and all 3 expose the lack of depth at the top end of each grouping
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