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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 4:36 PM ET
What goalie could the Canes sign for 5M per that will be as good as Andersen and has only 1M actual money?
- Archaic



Any of them.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 2 @ 4:40 PM ET
oh right, Holtby also. but he has a Bobrovsky feel for me...you may regret it 5 seconds later
- senstroll


I thought Holtby was a reclamation project at this point?

Pretty bad/average numbers the last few years. I wouldn't want to give him any form of LTD.

Lato649
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 02.06.2012

Sep 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
fair question. who is available? Lehner and maybe Markstrom..anyone else?

Andersen is owed 1 mil real $$ so that may be of interest to budgety teams (after bonus)

- senstroll



You think Vegas is gonna sign Lehner, after just signing Fleury to a 3 year deal?? I mean, I guess they could, but I think you're nuts if you think Lehner is gonna sign up for that, OR Fleury is going to want to split time.

Holtby, Crawford, Greiss, Lehner, Markstrom all need new homes, and 4 of them are starter-level players that can be had for just money.
Lato649
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 02.06.2012

Sep 2 @ 4:41 PM ET
fair question. who is available? Lehner and maybe Markstrom..anyone else?

Andersen is owed 1 mil real $$ so that may be of interest to budgety teams (after bonus)

- senstroll



You think Vegas is gonna sign Lehner, after just signing Fleury to a 3 year deal?? I mean, I guess they could, but I think you're nuts if you think Lehner is gonna sign up for that, OR Fleury is going to want to split time.

Holtby, Crawford, Greiss, Lehner, Markstrom all need new homes, and 4 of them are starter-level players that can be had for just money.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 2 @ 4:44 PM ET
You think Vegas is gonna sign Lehner, after just signing Fleury to a 3 year deal?? I mean, I guess they could, but I think you're nuts if you think Lehner is gonna sign up for that, OR Fleury is going to want to split time.

Holtby, Crawford, Greiss, Lehner, Markstrom all need new homes, and 4 of them are starter-level players that can be had for just money.

- Lato649


Well that's the issue isn't it. Teams already have cash budgets to deal with before the pandemic. Those cash budgets very well may decrease with revenues plummeting.

4 million in savings on a goaltender for a year could be quite valuable. But I'm just guessing the same way everyone here is.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 2 @ 4:47 PM ET
Chris Johnston on SN590: I think there's a good chance Freddy isn't playing in Toronto next season. Teams have interest and the Leafs are taking the calls. Even heard from Andersen's side that Freddy seems to be preparing as if he won't be back with Toronto.


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 2 @ 4:53 PM ET

- senstroll


136-66-33

will be big shoes to fill. i rather keep him, despite the lack of playoff success so far.

but much like keefe waiting in the wings, seems like campbell is dubas' guy. better to move freddy before the season starts.
daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Sep 2 @ 4:53 PM ET
you forgot the "in a deal for Patrik Laine" part.
- BINGO!

Wouldn’t moving him be considered a cap dump.
Injuries have eroded his game, no?
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 4:55 PM ET
You think Vegas is gonna sign Lehner, after just signing Fleury to a 3 year deal?? I mean, I guess they could, but I think you're nuts if you think Lehner is gonna sign up for that, OR Fleury is going to want to split time.

Holtby, Crawford, Greiss, Lehner, Markstrom all need new homes, and 4 of them are starter-level players that can be had for just money.

- Lato649


I agree I dont think Lehner is back with MAF there, but they may trade him after what has happened during the playoffs(Obviously only if thats what he wants as he has a NTC). Thats hard to do with his salary obviously.

Holtby, Crawford, and Greiss arent as good as Andersen right now.

Markstrom is going to go back to the Canucks IMO. So maybe Lehner is available, but his cost will be likely higher then Andersen.

I see Greiss simlar to Mrazek, so I doubt the Canes would want him.
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 2 @ 5:00 PM ET
136-66-33

will be big shoes to fill. i rather keep him, despite the lack of playoff success so far.

but much like keefe waiting in the wings, seems like campbell is dubas' guy. better to move freddy before the season starts.

- Tumbleweed


Running with Campbell as the starter basically guarantees Dubas is gone if it doesn't work in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind Holtby as a reclamation project with Campbell as the backup. But I think someone will give Holtby money based on the goalie he used to be a few years ago.

daws44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.08.2010

Sep 2 @ 5:02 PM ET
I agree I dont think Lehner is back with MAF there, but they may trade him after what has happened during the playoffs(Obviously only if thats what he wants as he has a NTC). Thats hard to do with his salary obviously.

Holtby, Crawford, and Greiss arent as good as Andersen right now.

Markstrom is going to go back to the Canucks IMO. So maybe Lehner is available, but his cost will be likely higher then Andersen.

I see Greiss simlar to Mrazek, so I doubt the Canes would want him.

- Archaic

One more good showing from Demko tomorrow and Markstrom is gone.
Nucks are in a cap crunch too.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
Not likely the Jets are trading Laine unless its for a big, young #1 center or a young, physical top pairing d-man. He'll be a Jet for the next few years.
- islansjet



It's done.. Laine for Chad Kilger and Oleg Tverdosky...
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
136-66-33

will be big shoes to fill. i rather keep him, despite the lack of playoff success so far.

but much like keefe waiting in the wings, seems like campbell is dubas' guy. better to move freddy before the season starts.

- Tumbleweed


Imagine what he could have done with a 1/2 decent team in front of him.
Traveldude
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.08.2020

Sep 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
STL gets a 3rd for a former starter that they kept over Elliott.
Yeah, Anderson gets you more clicks.
No, he not worth a 1st.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 2 @ 5:25 PM ET
I agree I dont think Lehner is back with MAF there, but they may trade him after what has happened during the playoffs(Obviously only if thats what he wants as he has a NTC). Thats hard to do with his salary obviously.

Holtby, Crawford, and Greiss arent as good as Andersen right now.

Markstrom is going to go back to the Canucks IMO. So maybe Lehner is available, but his cost will be likely higher then Andersen.

I see Greiss simlar to Mrazek, so I doubt the Canes would want him.

- Archaic



Greiss is better than Mrazek.

Very different style goalie. Mrazek overplays everything.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
Greiss is better than Mrazek.

Very different style goalie. Mrazek overplays everything.

- BINGO!


Not so sure about that. I think the Canes would be dissapointed if they sign Greiss.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Sep 2 @ 5:29 PM ET
Eugene gets a new starting goalie for $1 million, the Islanders 1st rounder, and a vowel change.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 2 @ 5:33 PM ET
A thousand
- Zezel

$1 Drew!


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 2 @ 5:34 PM ET
STL gets a 3rd for a former starter that they kept over Elliott.
Yeah, Anderson gets you more clicks.
No, he not worth a 1st.

- Traveldude

Think you are undervaluing his 1M salary.

As a fan you don't care but as an owner if you are a budget team and can pay a legit starting goalie 1M?

Good contract signing by Lou, gotta give him credit where credit is due.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 2 @ 5:39 PM ET
Some team will get desperate.

No reason for the Leafs to make a desperate goalie change.

- Santo_44



I think it's more his future cap hit with a flat cap and get something for him now then later.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 2 @ 5:41 PM ET
420 it
- Zezel

blazing saddles
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
I think it's more his future cap hit with a flat cap and get something for him now then later.
- dmnted

I mean I would work hard to trade him and find a replacement.

I think it's more likely than getting a top 4 D. Makes too much sense to deal him with his value contract.

I'd love Trocheck. Freddy and Kerfoot for him and Martinook or Mcginn.

Canes save a bunch of money(2.5 M this year and 3M next year with the Kerfoot/Trochek swap), get their starter and a guy who can play C or W.

He plays the type of game the Leafs need.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
I mean I would work hard to trade him and find a replacement.

I think it's more likely than getting a top 4 D. Makes too much sense to deal him with his value contract.

I'd love Trocheck. Freddy and Kerfoot for him and Martinook or Mcginn.

Canes save a bunch of money(2.5 M this year and 3M next year with the Kerfoot/Trochek swap), get their starter and a guy who can play C or W.

He plays the type of game the Leafs need.

- Santo_44


the issue with trading Trocheck is what do you replace him with? Kerfoot is fine, but he's a borderline 3C for the most part and the Canes already have an expensive one of those in J.Staal.

Unless they think Necas is ready to move to C and Dominik Bokk can grab a roster spot...
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
It would be kinda funny if the Leafs dealt Freddie to the Canes and didn’t get a d-man in return

I think it’ll be Freddy+ for a young d-man and a pick. Although Trochek would also make some sense
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 2 @ 6:00 PM ET
the issue with trading Trocheck is what do you replace him with? Kerfoot is fine, but he's a borderline 3C for the most part and the Canes already have an expensive one of those in J.Staal.

Unless they think Necas is ready to move to C and Dominik Bokk can grab a roster spot...

- BINGO!


I know your owner is cheap as (frank), I think money plays a huge role for the Canes as it will for a lot of teams.

Goaltending has been their soft spot for a while now...The prize for every team is Lehner. I think a lot of owners open their wallets for him and subtract somewhere else...after that? I think a lot of budget teams will want Freddy bad.

There is a strong fit there short and long term. You get Freddy as a legit starter and Kerfoot as your versatile forward who can move to C or W when needed.

Then there will be the option to add to the forward group using a D or going to FA and your owner maybe willing to open his wallet a bit with only halving to pay Freddy 1M and Kerfoot 2.5M.
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