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MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 2 @ 9:30 PM ET
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 2 @ 9:30 PM ET
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:30 PM ET
No they didn’t.
- Steven_Seagull

Thats what i heard on tsn.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 2 @ 9:31 PM ET
The rumour I read is that the Leafs wanted Murray, but backed off after they found out what he wanted in Arbitration.

The current rumours that the Leafs are still pursuing Murray would make no sense if the above is true though.

- Leafs43

thats what i heard.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 2 @ 9:31 PM ET
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 2 @ 9:32 PM ET
Thats what i heard on tsn.
- Fakepartofme

Isn't TSN the fake news
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 2 @ 9:34 PM ET
RIP Tom Terrific ... One of my favorite pitchers of all time... and the reason I went to SC...
Lytes9
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 08.20.2013

Sep 2 @ 9:39 PM ET
Not a Leafs fan here but wanted to throw out an idea. Lots of talk about Arizona wanting to shed salary being willing to listen on Kuemper and shop high priced D, and get back some picks taken away as punishment from league.

Could there be a large trade match with Leafs? With Andersen having 80% of salary paid the Coyotes would save $3 5 mill and the Leafs would obtain .5 in cap room. Add Johnsson to the trade and they could afford a RHD like Demers or Hjalmarsson. Maybe something like....

Frederick Andersen, 15th overall pick, Andreas Johnsson and Leafs prospect in top 3-5 range to ARI

Darcy Kuemper and Nicklas Hjalmarsson (or Jason Demers) to TOR

Money in cap hit would work out perfectly for Demers. Hjalmarsson would add a mill going Toronto's way. Depending on if Leafs wanna save xap more or Arizoba wants to shed salary more decides the D included. Arizona gets a pick and prospect to replace their first and second rounder and sheds salary while also obtaining young roster player. Leafs upgrade goalie and get RHD to play with Reilly.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 2 @ 9:42 PM ET
Send him back home to Minny 👍
- mr.sir


Him not being on the Leafs is a great start.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 2 @ 9:43 PM ET
Why Makar ?
- MisterBrown


I really like the way he Hockeys.

Of all the young d-men in the NHL he's my favourite, right ahead of Heiskanen.
OurSaviour_34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville , ON
Joined: 10.05.2019

Sep 2 @ 9:44 PM ET
Murray will most likely get a raise.
Prolly just under 5m.

- Fakepartofme


I thought your max for a goalie was $3M? Or you not interested in Murray?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 2 @ 9:44 PM ET
Not a Leafs fan here but wanted to throw out an idea. Lots of talk about Arizona wanting to shed salary being willing to listen on Kuemper and shop high priced D, and get back some picks taken away as punishment from league.

Could there be a large trade match eith Leafs? With Andersen having 80% of salary paid the Coyotes would save $3 5 mill andbrhe Leafs would obtain .5 in cap room. Add Johnsson to the trade and they could afford a RHD like Demers or Hjalmarsson. Maybe something like....

Frederick Andersen, 15th overall pick, Andreas Johnsson and Leafs prospect in top 3-5 range to ARI

Darcy Kuemper and Nicklas Hjalnarsson (or Jason Demers) to TOR

Money in cap hit would work out perfectly for Demers. Hjalmarsson would add a mill going Toronto's way. Depending on if Leafs wanna save xap more or Arizoba wants to shed salary more decides the D included. Arizona gets a pick and prospect to replace their first and second rounder and sheds salary while also obtaining young roster player. Leafs upgrade goalie and get RHD to play with Reilly.

- Lytes9


That feels like a really big price to pay for not a whole lot.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 2 @ 9:45 PM ET
Not a Leafs fan here but wanted to throw out an idea. Lots of talk about Arizona wanting to shed salary being willing to listen on Kuemper and shop high priced D, and get back some picks taken away as punishment from league.

Could there be a large trade match eith Leafs? With Andersen having 80% of salary paid the Coyotes would save $3 5 mill andbrhe Leafs would obtain .5 in cap room. Add Johnsson to the trade and they could afford a RHD like Demers or Hjalmarsson. Maybe something like....

Frederick Andersen, 15th overall pick, Andreas Johnsson and Leafs prospect in top 3-5 range to ARI

Darcy Kuemper and Nicklas Hjalnarsson (or Jason Demers) to TOR

Money in cap hit would work out perfectly for Demers. Hjalmarsson would add a mill going Toronto's way. Depending on if Leafs wanna save xap more or Arizoba wants to shed salary more decides the D included. Arizona gets a pick and prospect to replace their first and second rounder and sheds salary while also obtaining young roster player. Leafs upgrade goalie and get RHD to play with Reilly.

- Lytes9


no
Lytes9
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Kelowna, BC
Joined: 08.20.2013

Sep 2 @ 9:47 PM ET
That feels like a big price to pay for not a whole lot.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Kuemper has been one of the best goalies in the league the past 2 years making the 'Yotes look way better than they are and Leafs have been looking for a defensively responsible top pair RHD to play with Reilly for a long time, which Hjalmarsson is. How is that not a lot?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 9:49 PM ET
Kuemper has been one of the best goalies in the league the past 2 years making theb'Yotes look way better than they are and Leafs have been looking for a defensively responsible top pair RHD to play with Reilly for a long time, which Hjalmarsson is. How is that not a lot?
- Lytes9



Hjalmarsson was*
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 2 @ 9:50 PM ET
Jake Allen got a 3rd. Andersen gets a 1st.
- Steven_Seagull


From whom?

If he's not good enough for Leafs who will give up a first?

Won't be a "budget" team that dwells in the cellar giving up a great pick to become slightly better and draft 7th instead of 3rd.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 9:53 PM ET
From whom?

If he's not good enough for Leafs who will give up a first?

Won't be a "budget" team that dwells in the cellar giving up a great pick to become slightly better and draft 7th instead of 3rd.

- Nasty_Duck



Leafs aren’t trading him because he’s bad...


If Allen gets a 3rd, Andersen gets a 1st.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 2 @ 9:54 PM ET
Kuemper has been one of the best goalies in the league the past 2 years making the 'Yotes look way better than they are and Leafs have been looking for a defensively responsible top pair RHD to play with Reilly for a long time, which Hjalmarsson is. How is that not a lot?
- Lytes9


At worst, Freddy and Kuemper is a wash. But Kuemper also misses half of every year hurt, it seems.

I've never been a fan of Hjalmarsson, even when people gushed over him. And he ain't what he used to be. So we get a guy who has dropped off for one year?

So the Leafs add the 15th overall pick and a top prospect for that? Yeah, no thanks.

Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
Leafs aren’t trading him because he’s bad...


If Allen gets a 3rd, Andersen gets a 1st.

- Steven_Seagull


Then why are they trading him?

And it's for 1 year.
Difference between a 1st and 3rd is huge.

Don't see it happening. Maybe a 2nd, or part of a package deal.

Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Sep 2 @ 10:02 PM ET
News flash. It’s not the goalie
paulozz
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Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 2 @ 10:02 PM ET
Bingo - what is a fair deal if Canes are interested in Freddy?

Bean & McGinn ?

Keane & McGinn + 2nd ?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
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Sep 2 @ 10:06 PM ET
3-1 Colorado
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:07 PM ET
Then why are they trading him?

And it's for 1 year.
Difference between a 1st and 3rd is huge.

Don't see it happening. Maybe a 2nd, or part of a package deal.

- Nasty_Duck



There’s a good chance they don’t trade him.

Freddy is better overall, better cap hit (Starter vs backup), and his actual salary is only 1M.

If Allen gets a 3rd, Freddy gets a 1st. Blame the Habs for setting the market.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:09 PM ET
News flash. It’s not the goalie
- Camel



No one (Roger doesn’t count) said it was. He’s a UFA after this year and might price himself out. So trade him and get something for him, or let him walk.
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