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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:50 PM ET
Ummm, Tampa is in tough against, I predict, the Isles. Isles against Tampa, I take the Isles in 6.
- MisterBrown


Ummm Isles haven't advanced yet against a much weaker opponent. Good luck with that ummm prediction.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 10:57 PM ET
Jake the snake Allen was more like a 1B goaler. He was the starter in st.Louis for awhile as well. The guy isn't a bad goaler. That's why I think Fred gets a 2nd, and like everyone here was saying, Fred doesn't win the big games.
- MisterBrown



Wasn’t a good one...
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:00 PM ET
Wasn’t a good one...
- Steven_Seagull


understatement
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:03 PM ET
Wasn’t a good one...
- Steven_Seagull


2.63 / .917
2.50 / .913

Does not seem to be much difference to me.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 2 @ 11:04 PM ET
Ummm Isles haven't advanced yet against a much weaker opponent. Good luck with that ummm prediction.
- winsix

Lol. The Flyers were one of the best teams in the East this season. That's why they were in the round robin, not the play in...
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:04 PM ET
2.63 / .917
2.50 / .913

Does not seem to be much difference to me.

- Nasty_Duck


Was ok this year. Check the stats the year the Blues missed the playoffs - 2 seasons ago. Shat the bed big time.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 2 @ 11:06 PM ET
Ummm Isles haven't advanced yet against a much weaker opponent. Good luck with that ummm prediction.
- winsix


Islanders are a gritty team who have gritty players who play gritty
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:07 PM ET
2.63 / .917
2.50 / .913

Does not seem to be much difference to me.

- Nasty_Duck



One played on the Blues, one plays for the Leafs.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:21 PM ET
One played on the Blues, one plays for the Leafs.
- Steven_Seagull


That might explain GAA. But not SV%.

It's funny reading this NOW (during possible trade talks) but during the playoffs a lot of the blame (from Leafs fans) was being dumped on Andersen. During that time players would have been laughed at if it was suggested he be traded for a 1st.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:25 PM ET
Islanders are a well coached team of talentless jabronis
- Canada Cup

Fixed
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:49 PM ET
That might explain GAA. But not SV%.

It's funny reading this NOW (during possible trade talks) but during the playoffs a lot of the blame (from Leafs fans) was being dumped on Andersen. During that time players would have been laughed at if it was suggested he be traded for a 1st.

- Nasty_Duck


All true. If you asked me before the playoffs what the Blues could do with Jake Allen, I would have thought that it would cost the Blues a minimum of a second rounder to unload him. He was almost as big a pain in the wallet to the Blues as Marleau was to the Leafs, so a first rounder with two seasons left for a stiff that had the Blues in dead last in their cup year - until Binnington showed up wouldn't have surprised at all. That Armstrong was able to fish someone in for a third to take that contract adds value to Andersen.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 2 @ 11:59 PM ET
All true. If you asked me before the playoffs what the Blues could do with Jake Allen, I would have thought that it would cost the Blues a minimum of a second rounder to unload him. He was almost as big a pain in the wallet to the Blues as Marleau was to the Leafs, so a first rounder with two seasons left for a stiff that had the Blues in dead last in their cup year - until Binnington showed up wouldn't have surprised at all. That Armstrong was able to fish someone in for a third to take that contract adds value to Andersen.
- winsix



Exactly. The Allen trade set the market on a goalie with 1 year left.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 3 @ 12:00 AM ET
All true. If you asked me before the playoffs what the Blues could do with Jake Allen, I would have thought that it would cost the Blues a minimum of a second rounder to unload him. He was almost as big a pain in the wallet to the Blues as Marleau was to the Leafs, so a first rounder with two seasons left for a stiff that had the Blues in dead last in their cup year - until Binnington showed up wouldn't have surprised at all. That Armstrong was able to fish someone in for a third to take that contract adds value to Andersen.
- winsix


MB is clearly an idiot, that's what it comes down to
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 3 @ 12:14 AM ET
Wasn’t a good one...
- Steven_Seagull

Agreed, I thought he showed he was a backup at best
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 3 @ 12:37 AM ET
Ummm Isles haven't advanced yet against a much weaker opponent. Good luck with that ummm prediction.
- winsix


Yeah, I think Tampa is just a different animal.

Right now I think the only teams that could give them a run for their money are in the Western conference.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 3 @ 12:45 AM ET
Freddy will get more than a mid rd
2nd rd pk. 5 mil on cap but only 1 mil
payout is worth more to budget team

ARZ - Kuempfer For Freddy Zstraight up saves ARZ plenty of cash but high cap hit

sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

Sep 3 @ 12:55 AM ET
If they do trade him, they could go after that Hutchinson guy in Colorado. Looks pretty good.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 7:16 AM ET
Would love to see Laine on a line with Matthews

Nylander
Dermott
Bracco

- mr.sir


So Laine can rip it up and we have another 11 mil contract?
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 7:30 AM ET
Freddy will get more than a mid rd
2nd rd pk. 5 mil on cap but only 1 mil
payout is worth more to budget team

ARZ - Kuempfer For Freddy Zstraight up saves ARZ plenty of cash but high cap hit

- paulozz


I wonder if Carolina would do this:

Leafs 1st and rangers 2nd for Andersen and Pitts 1st. Leafs move up 2 spots in the 1st round, giving them a chance at askarov or guaranteeing Schneider.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 3 @ 7:53 AM ET
Freddy will get more than a mid rd
2nd rd pk. 5 mil on cap but only 1 mil
payout is worth more to budget team

ARZ - Kuempfer For Freddy Zstraight up saves ARZ plenty of cash but high cap hit

- paulozz



If the Leafs trade Andersen its to save cap space, I dont see the point to swap out for another G who is paid the same.

Maybe a slight upgrade, but its hard to say...more of a wash probably
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 3 @ 7:54 AM ET
I wonder if Carolina would do this:

Leafs 1st and rangers 2nd for Andersen and Pitts 1st. Leafs move up 2 spots in the 1st round, giving them a chance at askarov or guaranteeing Schneider.

- matt1337


Interesting proposal. Even though Schneider is RHD, not sure if Leafs have him rated higher than Guhle. I think the Leafs would rather take a d-man over Askarov. Schneider may not be available at 13 either. If there is a way to move up in the draft it would be worth a try. The teams that may be willing to part with a high pick are probably the Ducks, Ottawa's 5th overall and NJ's pick. It would cost plenty but a shot at Drysdale might be worth the move.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 3 @ 8:09 AM ET
If the Leafs trade Andersen its to save cap space, I dont see the point to swap out for another G who is paid the same.

Maybe a slight upgrade, but its hard to say...more of a wash probably

- senstroll



Freddy asked for a trade. I assume Dubas will trade him.

I see a package deal with Freddy and maybe the first.

Dubas gets who he wants, yet takes on a contract that is headed for Robidas Island. Leafs can afford a couple of crap contracts, Robidas Island is currently empty.

Just a guess.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 3 @ 8:09 AM ET
That might explain GAA. But not SV%.

It's funny reading this NOW (during possible trade talks) but during the playoffs a lot of the blame (from Leafs fans) was being dumped on Andersen. During that time players would have been laughed at if it was suggested he be traded for a 1st.

- Nasty_Duck


I'm hoping for a 2nd round pick and anything beyond that or extra is just gravy.

Goalies never really fetch a lot in trades surprisingly.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 3 @ 8:10 AM ET
Freddy asked for a trade. I assume Dubas will trade him.

I see a package deal with Freddy and maybe the first.

Dubas gets who he wants, yet takes on a contract that is headed for Robidas Island. Leafs can afford a couple of crap contracts, Robidas Island is currently empty.

Just a guess.

- bixll



When did he ask for a trade?

Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 3 @ 8:11 AM ET
I wonder if Carolina would do this:

Leafs 1st and rangers 2nd for Andersen and Pitts 1st. Leafs move up 2 spots in the 1st round, giving them a chance at askarov or guaranteeing Schneider.

- matt1337


Not a deal either team would do imo
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