He’s only 21 and the last update is that he’s feeling the best he has been this entire time. And you want him to give up on hockey already... Again, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

- hereticpride

Giving up on hockey is premature of course. But I think it is also rational to acknowledge there is a real possibility this will derail his career.

As late as Jan/Feb this year, Fletcher said he believed NoPa will play again this year during the regular season. So clearly, this is a complex issue.

I don't think it is doomsaying to point out there are real doubts. Its simply the rational assessment. Things may work out. The emphasis is may.

So, in your book, the only rationale for calling someone a moron is in retaliation?

Not when someone presents a body of evidence as detailed as yourself?
- PT21

So thinking you are right and someone is wrong is grounds to be a douche on the internet? You may need to rethink your behaviour......

EDIT: I know I am not right about everything. I am human and no one is right about everything. If being wrong on an OPINION is grounds to be a moron than every single person in the world including you is a moron

If jack eichel is available oh man... the only one i might not give up for him is probably Hart... lotta 1B guys on this team.
- JoeRussomanno

Couturier Sanheim and 1st gets it done ...

Giving up on hockey is premature of course. But I think it is also rational to acknowledge there is a real possibility this will derail his career.

As late as Jan/Feb this year, Fletcher said he believed NoPa will play again this year during the regular season. So clearly, this is a complex issue.

I don't think it is doomsaying to point out there are real doubts. Its simply the rational assessment. Things may work out. The emphasis is may.
- PT21

I don’t dispute any of this. This clown saying he should walk away from hockey at 21 and he’ll never be able to play with the fear of the next hit looming is ridiculous.

He’s only 21 and the last update is that he’s feeling the best he has been this entire time. And you want him to give up on hockey already... Again, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

- hereticpride

It's not a bold statement. For most things you need a good brain in this life. I WOULD be considering a career change. As for your other comment, he feels the best since the Migraine Disorder started. Not the best he's ever felt. BIG difference!

Not sure why you're not getting this. Don't know what you do for a living, so I can't give you the analogy you clearly need. I am an Arborist, one fall from a height greater than 15' changes the way you climb the rest of your life. One good head shot for him and we will have another useless contract on our hands. You not seeing the risk side either? How late were you out last night?

It's not a bold statement. For most things you need a good brain in this life. I WOULD be considering a career change. As for your other comment, he feels the best since the Migraine Disorder started. Not the best he's ever felt. BIG difference!

Not sure why you're not getting this. Don't know what you do for a living, so I can't give you the analogy you clearly need. I am an Arborist, one fall from a height greater than 15' changes the way you climb the rest of your life. One good head shot for him and we will have another useless contract on our hands. You not seeing the risk side either? How late were you out last night?
- BadCowboyDan

We’re all gonna be bad car crash away from death. Should we all stop driving? The kid is not going to quit hockey any time soon. Idk what to tell you.

I don’t dispute any of this. This clown saying he should walk away from hockey at 21 and he’ll never be able to play with the fear of the next hit looming is ridiculous.
- hereticpride

Who you calling a clown? You not finish your ESL classes yet, or you just stupid? I didn't say he should walk away, I said I'd consider it. Man you are dense. Come back when you pass your GED dumbass.

It's not a bold statement. For most things you need a good brain in this life. I WOULD be considering a career change. As for your other comment, he feels the best since the Migraine Disorder started. Not the best he's ever felt. BIG difference!

Not sure why you're not getting this. Don't know what you do for a living, so I can't give you the analogy you clearly need. I am an Arborist, one fall from a height greater than 15' changes the way you climb the rest of your life. One good head shot for him and we will have another useless contract on our hands. You not seeing the risk side either? How late were you out last night?
- BadCowboyDan

The most likely scenario sees Patrick re-signed on a one year deal. Very little risk in that.

Actually 2nd. Unless you play 25 games in a season, the league doesnt count it

Wow some guy on the internet called me a moron....... How can I live with myself.......
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You are thinking of what constitutes a rookie according to the NHL.

Lindblom signed a 3 year ELC in 2017. That expired this year.

Next year will be his 4th year in the league.

We’re all gonna be bad car crash away from death. Should we all stop driving? The kid is not going to quit hockey any time soon. Idk what to tell you.
- hereticpride

You don't know that. You willing to sign him to a contract that may be poop in a year? That's the kind of stupid that got us Jake for too many years at too many dollars.

The most likely scenario sees Patrick re-signed on a one year deal. Very little risk in that.
- MJL

i don't disagree. Just hope that's the route they take.

I'll save you some time. Eichel is not available.
- MJL

He might not want to be there.

AND not be available.

They're not mutually exclusive.

You don't know that. You willing to sign him to a contract that may be poop in a year? That's the kind of stupid that got us Jake for too many years at too many dollars.
- BadCowboyDan

Guy typically is good for 20 goals a season And 60ish points. Again, you’re completely ignoring his career year in 17-18. Jake was getting a big contract from us or another team via FA.

The most likely scenario sees Patrick re-signed on a one year deal. Very little risk in that.
- MJL

Agreed. I can’t argue with this guy anymore. Flyers will give him all the time he needs. And one roster spot On a year to year deal to get your 2nd overall pick playing is not really a huge risk.

All we can do is go off what Patrick and the team says and by all accounts he’s feeling the best he has since this started and is focusing on coming back at the start of next season. Why we’re talking about the kid considering career changes right now is just insane to me.

Agreed. Idk why Buffalo would have any interest in moving him right now and I don’t see any substantial report that he wants out.

That’s basically like another team asking us to move Provorov right now. Zero sense.
- hereticpride

Ok, what about Laine? If he wants out, what choice does WPG have?

I'm just trying to think of ways to make the team better and willing to pay to do it.

You are thinking of what constitutes a rookie according to the NHL.

Lindblom signed a 3 year ELC in 2017. That expired this year.

Next year will be his 4th year in the league.
- PT21

So technically he is correct? A players can be signed to an ELC and never play in the NHL under that ELC.

So thinking you are right and someone is wrong is grounds to be a douche on the internet? You may need to rethink your behaviour......

EDIT: I know I am not right about everything. I am human and no one is right about everything. If being wrong on an OPINION is grounds to be a moron than every single person in the world including you is a moron
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Your opinion is certainly not grounds to be called an moron. But go back and re-read your posts. I gave you the respect of engaging seriously with your content.

Your initial thesis, that Lindlbom did not play because he missed training camp in 2019 and Oscar did because he did not, is just silly.

I reacted when you posted this:

"Honestly I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Not even worth the time. Bad enough I spent this long writing this."

Anyway, lets move on. As you mentioned, you don't care what some dude on the Internet says, so good. You shouldn't.

i don't disagree. Just hope that's the route they take.
- BadCowboyDan

Think about it. Why would the Flyers want to risk more than one year? Patrick has no leverage whatsoever and won't get a good deal. The best situation for both is a one year deal.

So technically he is correct? A players can be signed to an ELC and never play in the NHL under that ELC.
- MJL

The conditioning set here is those who played every year, such as Lindblom. We are not talking about a hypothetical player. We are talking about Lindblom.

You are thinking of what constitutes a rookie according to the NHL.

Lindblom signed a 3 year ELC in 2017. That expired this year.

Next year will be his 4th year in the league.
- PT21

1) He isnt a rookie. It was a mistake. It is his 2nd year. Still justification for my point. Young players hit wall. You dont become a pro over night unless you ar eCrosby or McDavid

2) The easiest way I can explain it is this. NHL Calder trophy is awarded to the best rookie in a season. If you play less than 25 games you are not considered a rookie and are omitted from the trophy. When you participate the next year and play over 25 games, you are then in the running for the Calder as a rookie. Therefore since Lindblom played less than 25 games, his first year is not considered his rookie year. His 2nd year is considered his rookie year.

Your opinion is certainly not grounds to be called an moron. But go back and re-read your posts. I gave you the respect of engaging seriously with your content.

Your initial thesis, that Lindlbom did not play because he missed training camp in 2019 and Oscar did because he did not, is just silly.

I reacted when you posted this:

"Honestly I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Not even worth the time. Bad enough I spent this long writing this."

Anyway, lets move on. As you mentioned, you don't care what some dude on the Internet says, so good. You shouldn't.
- PT21

His thesis on why Patrick was not brought to the bubble was correct. You were again, incorrect.

Guy typically is good for 20 goals a season And 60ish points. Again, you’re completely ignoring his career year in 17-18. Jake was getting a big contract from us or another team via FA.
- arichardson22

Yep, too bad it wasn't another team. I am not ignoring what he did PRE migraine, I just can see that Pre and Post are gone be the same.

Giving up on hockey is premature of course. But I think it is also rational to acknowledge there is a real possibility this will derail his career.

As late as Jan/Feb this year, Fletcher said he believed NoPa will play again this year during the regular season. So clearly, this is a complex issue.

I don't think it is doomsaying to point out there are real doubts. Its simply the rational assessment. Things may work out. The emphasis is may.
- PT21

Strictly speaking Fletcher can still be right, if Patrick plays in December then that is this year and the regular season.

From personal experience, I have had years in my childhood and twenties where I had zero migraines and some years far better than others since. Everything we guess without actual information is just speculation leaning positively or negatively based on our own state of mind. I wish him the best health and happiness and if that involves playing hockey, I will be glad because I think he is very talented.

Your opinion is certainly not grounds to be called an moron. But go back and re-read your posts. I gave you the respect of engaging seriously with your content.

Your initial thesis, that Lindlbom did not play because he missed training camp in 2019 and Oscar did because he did not, is just silly.

I reacted when you posted this:

"Honestly I'm not even going to bother with the rest. Not even worth the time. Bad enough I spent this long writing this."

Anyway, lets move on. As you mentioned, you don't care what some dude on the Internet says, so good. You shouldn't.
- PT21

So what? How long do you think it took me to write that? Definitely more than a few minutes. How is it not a waste of my time? Is 15-20 mins of your time worth 1 post? I could consider this entire argument a waste of my time because I have spent like 30-40 mins on this site arguing to some random person who isnt going change their mind no matter what facts are presented.

The conditioning set here is those who played every year, such as Lindblom. We are not talking about a hypothetical player. We are talking about Lindblom.
- PT21

You don't get to decide the conditions. The NHL specifies what a rookie is. If you want to ignore that, then that is on you. The reason for the hypothetical is that it invalidates your comment on the ELC contract.