But that's my point: there is a guy being "carried" on almost every pairing in the NHL.

Because cap and reality of the situation that every team is in.
- gravyface

holl was given a $2m x 3 deal at 28 after 52 games in the nhl.

seems pretty rich for a guy like that.

Gudas is one D I hope the Leafs sign.
could use his toughness
- dmnted

im not minding the idea of signing gudas.
Depending on price and term.

an interesting study came out on the psychological effect of acetaminophen on risk-taking.
https://academic.oup.com/...1093/scan/nsaa108/5897711


this is relevant to the NHL, since lots of players (including enforcers, e.g. Boogard (RIP)) are on these painkillers.
being on prescription drugs that would increase (or induce?) risk-taking behaviour seems like a bad idea, in particular for the enforcers..
- MaximusAurelius

I always wondered why I felt more daring when I had a Tylenol.

Talking to one now.

Everything you type is negative.
- bixll

its not, im not.
But hugs, its ok.

He was absolutely our third best defenseman in the playoffs.

Not sure if that's good or bad for him.
- joel878

Yeah, I'll disagree with that.

How many (frank)ing shutouts is Lehner going to get?
- AdamFrench

All of them

lol.
People arent use to seeing quality D.

He was ok, but nothing special
- Fakepartofme

Agreed. After the first game he played decent. Minus the worst change in the history of hockey in game 5.

Watching the essentially equivalent defense of the Knights on paper perform so well, one has to wonder...what's going on?

holl was given a $2m x 3 deal at 28 after 52 games in the nhl.

seems pretty rich for a guy like that.
- Tumbleweed

I agree. The $2M isn't terrible really, but to me the problem was giving him 3 years. There was absolutely no reason to do so.

Rielly - Muzzin - Dermott - Holl - Sandin - Liljegren - Lehtonen.
seems like most of Leafs' D for next season is set - with the obvious lack of that 1st pairing - d-man that can pair up with Rielly.

Rielly -- ??
Muzzin -- Dermott
Sandin -- Holl
7th: Liljegren / Lehtonen.

the issue with leafs is team-d , starting with FWs.
too many floating wingers, and Leafs need a #3C.

Get rid of Nylander, Johnsson, Kerfoot -- and instantly team defense is better.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
?? -- Matthews -- Mikheyev
Robertson -- ?? -- ??
Engvall -- ?? -- ??
13th/14th: Barabanov, Gauthier

in short - Leafs' lineup needs more work on FW than on Defense.

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@iamhockey1
Pesce for Andersen is gaining momentum. #LeafsForever
#takewarning
other minor parts are involved. Leafs not biting yet

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Didn't LeBrun say that Carolina would be hesitant to include Pesce in a deal for Laine?

Watching the essentially equivalent defense of the Knights on paper perform so well, one has to wonder...what's going on?
- AdamFrench

They obviously just love being in Edmonton so much that they don't want to leave yet.

Rielly - Muzzin - Dermott - Holl - Sandin - Liljegren - Lehtonen.
seems like most of Leafs' D for next season is set - with the obvious lack of that 1st pairing - d-man that can pair up with Rielly.

Rielly -- ??
Muzzin -- Dermott
Sandin -- Holl
7th: Liljegren / Lehtonen.

the issue with leafs is team-d , starting with FWs.
too many floating wingers, and Leafs need a #3C.

Get rid of Nylander, Johnsson, Kerfoot -- and instantly team defense is better.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
?? -- Matthews -- Mikheyev
Robertson -- ?? -- ??
Engvall -- ?? -- ??
13th/14th: Barabanov, Gauthier

in short - Leafs' lineup needs more work on FW than on Defense.
- MaximusAurelius

Spezza and Simmonds on the 4th with Engvall.

Spezza and Simmonds on the 4th with Engvall.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Fast & The Gang

This I agree with.

I hope Sandin gets a chance next year; the sky isn't falling if we don't win the cup next year either.
- gravyface

Huh... What universe are you living in??

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@iamhockey1
Pesce for Andersen is gaining momentum. #LeafsForever
#takewarning
other minor parts are involved. Leafs not biting yet

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Didn't LeBrun say that Carolina would be hesitant to include Pesce in a deal for Laine?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Andersen for Pesce is a great trade for the Leafs.

I think LeBrun said they were hesitant to add Pesce in a Laine deal because it would be too many assets leaving the Hurricances.

Rielly - Muzzin - Dermott - Holl - Sandin - Liljegren - Lehtonen.
seems like most of Leafs' D for next season is set - with the obvious lack of that 1st pairing - d-man that can pair up with Rielly.

Rielly -- ??
Muzzin -- Dermott
Sandin -- Holl
7th: Liljegren / Lehtonen.

the issue with leafs is team-d , starting with FWs.
too many floating wingers, and Leafs need a #3C.

Get rid of Nylander, Johnsson, Kerfoot -- and instantly team defense is better.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
?? -- Matthews -- Mikheyev
Robertson -- ?? -- ??
Engvall -- ?? -- ??
13th/14th: Barabanov, Gauthier

in short - Leafs' lineup needs more work on FW than on Defense.
- MaximusAurelius

My wish list:

Jenner
Anderson
Savard
Simmonds
Tanev
Addison
Mayfield
Pesce
Timmins (concussion)
Severson
Gurianov
Larsson
P Myers
Ekblad
Parayko

Fast & The Gang
- AdamFrench

Being slow and not keeping up with Engvall means that two guys are always back defensively. It's a prefect plan!

Rielly - Muzzin - Dermott - Holl - Sandin - Liljegren - Lehtonen.
seems like most of Leafs' D for next season is set - with the obvious lack of that 1st pairing - d-man that can pair up with Rielly.

Rielly -- ??
Muzzin -- Dermott
Sandin -- Holl
7th: Liljegren / Lehtonen.

the issue with leafs is team-d , starting with FWs.
too many floating wingers, and Leafs need a #3C.

Get rid of Nylander, Johnsson, Kerfoot -- and instantly team defense is better.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
?? -- Matthews -- Mikheyev
Robertson -- ?? -- ??
Engvall -- ?? -- ??
13th/14th: Barabanov, Gauthier

in short - Leafs' lineup needs more work on FW than on Defense.
- MaximusAurelius

I know the Leafs can't afford him, but there are numerous reports that Pietrangelo is not happy in St. Louis..
Apparently, he didn't like that the team dealt with other defensemen first, and didn't like the Armstrong comments (81.5/23). Also, the team is not offering him more than a 5 year term..

So, maybe there is a chance.. Maybe?

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@iamhockey1
Pesce for Andersen is gaining momentum. #LeafsForever
#takewarning
other minor parts are involved. Leafs not biting yet

______________________

Didn't LeBrun say that Carolina would be hesitant to include Pesce in a deal for Laine?
- GreatGigInTheSky

there's almost literally no way this happens unless something more than Andersen is coming back.

I like him and all, but the gap between a .915 goaltending and .908 goaltending doesn't seem like a big enough difference to trade a guy like Pesce.

Andersen for Pesce is a great trade for the Leafs.

I think LeBrun said they were hesitant to add Pesce in a Laine deal because it would be too many assets leaving the Hurricances.
- PatC80

Oh, ok. The reasoning is different than I though, then.

I know the Leafs can't afford him, but there are numerous reports that Pietrangelo is not happy in St. Louis..
Apparently, he didn't like that the team dealt with other defensemen first, and didn't like the Armstrong comments (81.5/23). Also, the team is not offering him more than a 5 year term..

So, maybe there is a chance.. Maybe?
- PatC80

You got a link to things? I've not seen't any of that. I'd very much like to read it.

there's almost literally no way this happens unless something more than Andersen is coming back.

I like him and all, but the gap between a .915 goaltending and .908 goaltending doesn't seem like a big enough difference to trade a guy like Pesce.
- BINGO!

But imagine Freddy in front of a team that doesn't hang him out to dry all the time.

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@iamhockey1
Pesce for Andersen is gaining momentum. #LeafsForever
#takewarning
other minor parts are involved. Leafs not biting yet

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Didn't LeBrun say that Carolina would be hesitant to include Pesce in a deal for Laine?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Lebrun really was hyping Pesce as some stud D last year. I never understood it.

My wish list:

Jenner
Anderson
Savard
Simmonds
Tanev
Addison
Mayfield
Pesce
Timmins (concussion)
Severson
Gurianov
Larsson
P Myers
Ekblad
Parayko
- mr.sir

I do think we could see a Severson for Johnsson type deal..

There cap hits are similar, but Severson's actual salary will start to rise, whereas, Johnsson's salary will drop due to the signing bonuses, he's received..
This will help NJ, keep cap numbers in line but pay lower salary