Leafs games.

We don't know sh!t about other teams' players. It's why I got (frank)ing blind sided by the disaster that was Barrie.
- Leafs43

This.

Oh my God this.

I haven't watched a western conference regular season game in a decade.

For what it's worth, I think an Andersen/Campbell tandem is just fine.

But hey, what do I know?
- Scabeh

It could have been, but goals from behind the icing line seem to go in on Andersen relatively easily.

Santo only watches the Leafs(per his own admission), hasn't seen a hockey game in his life outside of that.
So take his opinions with a bag of salt..
(hence the absurd trade 'ideas')
- MaximusAurelius

Ok Max

Unlike Joseph Woll who is overrated by pretend Doctors who pretend to be Leafs fans.
- Leafs43

Joseph Woll will be an excellent starting goalie for the Leafs soon, and for next 10 years.

I think guys are going to need to deal with the league moving to 55-32 splits.
- AdamFrench

You think the NHLPA will agree to an 87 game season?

Yeah last year wasn't a good year for him, largely because they kept switching what side of the ice he was playing on. His usage was a jumbled mess most of the year.

He wasn't spectacular, but was still fine. Certainly not "Horrible."
- BINGO!

I could be wrong, but wasn't he paired with Jake Gardiner for a while as well?

I expected the defensive train wreck.

I did expect him to score more though.
- Scabeh

pretty much. I thought he'd be better at skating the puck out of trouble but he didn't seem to push the puck up the ice with his feet the way I thought he would.

You think the NHLPA will agree to an 87 game season?
- Atomic Wedgie

87 games in 180 days? What could go wrong?

i was surprised by how ineffective Barrie was.
- BINGO!

Me too.

I'm sure he will go somewhere and be a good offensive defenseman again. But damn, the fact some people were saying he was an 8 million x 7 years defenseman when he came here is (frank)ing insane.

In Depth article on the Athletic of every D man the Leafs could trade for, going through every team.

The best fits combined with realistic options.

1.Ekblad
2.Parayko
3.Hamilton
4.Severson
5.Brodin
6.Larrson
7.Petry
8.Weegar
9.Manson
10.Pesce
11.Savard
12.Letang

pretty much. I thought he'd be better at skating the puck out of trouble but he didn't seem to push the puck up the ice with his feet the way I thought he would.
- BINGO!

Barrie was really good at skating into trouble and then skating away from the play after losing possession of the puck..

In Depth article on the Athletic of every D man the Leafs could trade for, going through every team.

The best fits combined with realistic options.

1.Ekblad
2.Parayko
3.Hamilton
4.Severson
5.Brodin
6.Larrson
7.Petry
8.Weegar
9.Manson
10.Pesce
11.Savard
12.Letang
- Santo_44

1,2,3,9,10 and 12 are not realistic options

Pesce had a horrible year last year and looked bad after his knee injury.

The Canes overrate him so its a no go.
- Santo_44

I was wondering when you were going to come and tell me I'm wrong.

1,2,3,9,10 and 12 are not realistic options
- PatC80

Of course they are.

The Leafs have the pieces to make those moves, its about if they are willing to do them which as fans we don't know.

Barrie was really good at skating into trouble and then skating away from the play after losing possession of the puck..
- PatC80

That and he was awful in his own end. He was pretty much a 4th forward with how ineffective he was at defence.

For what it's worth, I think an Andersen/Campbell tandem is just fine.

But hey, what do I know?
- Scabeh

Doing rough, back of the envelope math:

Andersen had 65 points (29-13-7) in 52 games.

Campbell had 7 points (3-2-1) in 6 games.

Extrapolated over an 82 game season, that's 102 points.

Then allow me to add some blue-koolaid factors:

They played much better post-Babs.

Rielly and Muzzin injuries.

The goaltending wasn't the problem - same as against Columbus.

https://public.tableau.com/shared/6KHWM8WTH?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link


Was below average for his standards.
- Santo_44

Are you reading that chart correctly?

Joseph Woll will be an excellent starting goalie for the Leafs soon, and for next 10 years.
- MaximusAurelius

Ya, and Muzzin has a 50/50 shot of never playing in the NHL again.

I honestly hope you're right. But I know that you just make sh!t up based on (frank)ing nothing and then run with it.

Of course they are.

The Leafs have the pieces to make those moves, its about if they are willing to do them which as fans we don't know.
- Santo_44

Just for fun, how is a trade for Ekblad realistic?

Florida already has a terrible defense overall and they'd trade away their young stud #1 defenseman for something the Leafs can give them? More offense?

You think the NHLPA will agree to an 87 game season?
- Atomic Wedgie

Starts vs pulls. Based on games played total.

Lou lam a finalist for gm of the year.

Doing rough, back of the envelope math:

Andersen had 65 points (29-13-7) in 52 games.

Campbell had 7 points (3-2-1) in 6 games.

Extrapolated over an 82 game season, that's 102 points.

Then allow me to add some blue-koolaid factors:

They played much better post-Babs.

Rielly and Muzzin injuries.

The goaltending wasn't the problem - same as against Columbus.
- Atomic Wedgie

I agree with this.

Goaltending isn't the Leafs main issue. It hasn't been their main issue since Andersen was acquired.

Barrie was really good at skating into trouble and then skating away from the play after losing possession of the puck..
- PatC80

You just described Gardiner to a T.

Doing rough, back of the envelope math:

Andersen had 65 points (29-13-7) in 52 games.

Campbell had 7 points (3-2-1) in 6 games.

Extrapolated over an 82 game season, that's 102 points.

Then allow me to add some blue-koolaid factors:

They played much better post-Babs.

Rielly and Muzzin injuries.

The goaltending wasn't the problem - same as against Columbus.
- Atomic Wedgie

Freddy hasn't helped in the games where the Leafs get the most flack for...and he is going to be 32 when he needs a new deal.

I don't want to wait knowing how many good goalies are available this offseason.

Ok Max
- Santo_44

you did say that.