Of course they are.

The Leafs have the pieces to make those moves, its about if they are willing to do them which as fans we don't know.
- Santo_44

It's more so, why would they be moved from their current teams?

If Pietrangelo walks, the Blues are keeping Parayko.
Florida may need to shed salary, but they are not going to trade their very best defenseman.
Carolina won't move Pesce, so why would they move Hamilton? I think he is better than Pesce.
What team will help Pittsburgh by taking on Letang, and also, why would they move their best defenseman?
Manson has basically said he doesn't want to leave California, his wife and family are from there

The Leafs can offer a lot, but why would these guys be moved?

pretty much. I thought he'd be better at skating the puck out of trouble but he didn't seem to push the puck up the ice with his feet the way I thought he would.
- BINGO!

I assumed he was a good skater given his size and offensive abilities. He sucked.

I could be wrong, but wasn't he paired with Jake Gardiner for a while as well?
- PatC80

He went with basically whoever was struggling most of the time.


Gardiner, Edmundson, TVR, basically whoever happened to be struggling at that time.

He didn't get to play almost exclusively with Slavin this year like he did last season, so that likely caused some problems.

Lou lam a finalist for gm of the year.
- Fakepartofme

Hockey News just named him to their Top 75 over 75 list.

In Depth article on the Athletic of every D man the Leafs could trade for, going through every team.

The best fits combined with realistic options.

1.Ekblad
2.Parayko
3.Hamilton
4.Severson
5.Brodin
6.Larrson
7.Petry
8.Weegar
9.Manson
10.Pesce
11.Savard
12.Letang
- Santo_44

I give you props for highlighting this guy a few weeks ago. He's got good numbers and seems like a nice fit if they can pry him out of the FLA.

Offer sheet ....4 x 4.2 with big bonus/cash. Then hope Florida's force to work out a trade.

He went with basically whoever was struggling most of the time.


Gardiner, Edmundson, TVR, basically whoever happened to be struggling at that time.

He didn't get to play almost exclusively with Slavin this year like he did last season, so that likely caused some problems.
- BINGO!

I could see how going from Slavin to a combination of partners, including Jake Gardiner could make your numbers look worse

Pesce had a horrible year last year and looked bad after his knee injury.

The Canes overrate him so its a no go.
- Santo_44

really? Cause youve watched him play on a consistent basis.
I posted ealier asking bingo about pesce and if he really would be what the leafs need (not sure is he replied or not)as i dont watch many canes games. But from what ive seen, he looks good. Im sure bingo would confirm or not.

Just for fun, how is a trade for Ekblad realistic?

Florida already has a terrible defense overall and they'd trade away their young stud #1 defenseman for something the Leafs can give them? More offense?
- Scabeh

I think there's a lot more to the panthers than that....Especially now all their decisions will be based largely off $$$.

Nylander is only getting paid 3.5M, 6M, 6M, 6M in his last 4 years. That would heavily interest FLA.

Also FLA is allowed to make more than one trade. Barkov has been in the rumour mill for the last few years.

Also they are losing Hoffman, Dadanov and traded away Trocheck...They absolutely might want to add offence.

really? Cause youve watched him play on a consistent basis.
I posted ealier asking bingo about pesce and if he really would be what the leafs need (not sure is he replied or not)as i dont watch many canes games. But from what ive seen, he looks good. Im sure bingo would confirm or not.
- Fakepartofme

Pesce is good and his contract is good.

He had a bad year for his standards.

I was wondering when you were going to come and tell me I'm wrong.
- The Law

lol

It's more so, why would they be moved from their current teams?

If Pietrangelo walks, the Blues are keeping Parayko.
Florida may need to shed salary, but they are not going to trade their very best defenseman.
Carolina won't move Pesce, so why would they move Hamilton? I think he is better than Pesce.
What team will help Pittsburgh by taking on Letang, and also, why would they move their best defenseman?
Manson has basically said he doesn't want to leave California, his wife and family are from there

The Leafs can offer a lot, but why would these guys be moved?
- PatC80

Hamilton could be moved as the Canes are developing a pattern of trading guys in the offseason before they become a UFA, but the return would have to be substantial.

This isn't a Justin Faulk situation where he's probably overrated a little bit asking for too much money. Hamilton was used like a true #1 defenseman this year for the first time and stepped up his play into that role.

The only real reason for holding so stubbornly onto Pesce is his contract. It's really good value and you'll never replace what he brings for that dollar value outside the draft.

Doing rough, back of the envelope math:

Andersen had 65 points (29-13-7) in 52 games.

Campbell had 7 points (3-2-1) in 6 games.

Extrapolated over an 82 game season, that's 102 points.

Then allow me to add some blue-koolaid factors:

They played much better post-Babs.

Rielly and Muzzin injuries.

The goaltending wasn't the problem - same as against Columbus.
- Atomic Wedgie

agreed.

I agree with this.

Goaltending isn't the Leafs main issue. It hasn't been their main issue since Andersen was acquired.
- Scabeh

100% but any trade of Andersen is a "Cap" issue not a goalie issue.

really? Cause youve watched him play on a consistent basis.
I posted ealier asking bingo about pesce and if he really would be what the leafs need (not sure is he replied or not)as i dont watch many canes games. But from what ive seen, he looks good. Im sure bingo would confirm or not.
- Fakepartofme

Pesce had a rough year based on his standards, because he did play with Gardiner last year... Which explains why

I give you props for highlighting this guy a few weeks ago. He's got good numbers and seems like a nice fit if they can pry him out of the FLA.

Offer sheet ....4 x 4.2 with big bonus/cash. Then hope Florida's force to work out a trade.
- The Law

Would love Weegar.

He costs there Leafs the 15th overall however...Makes me wonder if FLA would cheap out and sign Weegar long term and trade Ekblad instead.

Either way I'd love Ekblad or Weegar.

You just described Gardiner to a T.
- Atomic Wedgie

I honestly feel like Gardiner was better ...ewwww.

I agree with this.

Goaltending isn't the Leafs main issue. It hasn't been their main issue since Andersen was acquired.
- Scabeh

Very true.

But.

Andy hasnt stolen a game in the playoffs like he does in the reg season.

Hamilton could be moved as the Canes are developing a pattern of trading guys in the offseason before they become a UFA, but the return would have to be substantial.

This isn't a Justin Faulk situation where he's probably overrated a little bit asking for too much money. Hamilton was used like a true #1 defenseman this year for the first time and stepped up his play into that role.

The only real reason for holding so stubbornly onto Pesce is his contract. It's really good value and you'll never replace what he brings for that dollar value outside the draft.
- BINGO!

If the Leafs trade for Hamilton than we have to know Rielly is gonzo in two years...

Might be worth it though...

It's more so, why would they be moved from their current teams?

If Pietrangelo walks, the Blues are keeping Parayko.
Florida may need to shed salary, but they are not going to trade their very best defenseman.
Carolina won't move Pesce, so why would they move Hamilton? I think he is better than Pesce.
What team will help Pittsburgh by taking on Letang, and also, why would they move their best defenseman?
Manson has basically said he doesn't want to leave California, his wife and family are from there

The Leafs can offer a lot, but why would these guys be moved?
- PatC80

cause someone on HB said they would.
Its so simple

Hockey News just named him to their Top 75 over 75 list.
- Atomic Wedgie

It's more so, why would they be moved from their current teams?

If Pietrangelo walks, the Blues are keeping Parayko.
Florida may need to shed salary, but they are not going to trade their very best defenseman.
Carolina won't move Pesce, so why would they move Hamilton? I think he is better than Pesce.
What team will help Pittsburgh by taking on Letang, and also, why would they move their best defenseman?
Manson has basically said he doesn't want to leave California, his wife and family are from there

The Leafs can offer a lot, but why would these guys be moved?
- PatC80

Barkov has been in the rumour mill the last year because they don't want to pay him in 2 years and that last year is heavily backloaded...All bets are off with Florida.

They traded Trocheck for meh pieces just to save money.

Hamilton could be moved as the Canes are developing a pattern of trading guys in the offseason before they become a UFA, but the return would have to be substantial.

This isn't a Justin Faulk situation where he's probably overrated a little bit asking for too much money. Hamilton was used like a true #1 defenseman this year for the first time and stepped up his play into that role.

The only real reason for holding so stubbornly onto Pesce is his contract. It's really good value and you'll never replace what he brings for that dollar value outside the draft.
- BINGO!

Hamilton and Pesce are both really good, and are the two guys that the Leafs need the most.. I can't see Carolina trading Hamilton.. Maybe if he asks for Roman Josi type money.. Pesce is a solid #3-4 guy and is on a great contract.. I don't see him being moved either..

Santo only watches the Leafs(per his own admission), hasn't seen a hockey game in his life outside of that.
So take his opinions with a bag of salt..
(hence the absurd trade 'ideas')
- MaximusAurelius

You talk about absurd trade ideas right after suggesting Matthews and Nylander for Barkov and Ekblad?

C'mon man.

really? Cause youve watched him play on a consistent basis.
I posted ealier asking bingo about pesce and if he really would be what the leafs need (not sure is he replied or not)as i dont watch many canes games. But from what ive seen, he looks good. Im sure bingo would confirm or not.
- Fakepartofme

I don't know if he's exactly what they need, but he'd be a help. You can play him 20 minutes per night against literally anyone and not have to worry that he's going to cost you a goal.

Less Physical than you'd expect, but he's great at getting into passing lanes and breaking up plays.

Pesce is good and his contract is good.

He had a bad year for his standards.
- Santo_44

yes he may have.
But the reasons seem to have been provided that could link to why.
Arent you always calling out people for "recency bias"?
From what ive seen, pesce would look good on the leafs.
But im no expert and my charts arent pretty.