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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
I do not think Simmonds is worth signing. I think he would be horrid as a leaf with their style and at some point the wheels just fall off a guy. I prefer Spezza for the old vet player as he plays center at least.
- Aaron_85



As much as I loved Simmonds when he was with the Flyers, I think he's cooked. Just too much punishment over the years.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
I can't see Barrie getting a raise.

The thing I keep thinking about is the uncertainty surrounding the 2020-21 season. Nobody seems to want to talk about that.

Will there even be a season? All Canadian division? How many games?

I just don't think it's financially viable for half the franchises to play without ticket sales.

NBC is adamant that the season will have to end by the third week of July.

Are companies really going to re-up on luxury boxes in non-traditional markets?

I see a lot of teams not spending anything next year - just basically hoping to survive until things get back to "normal" - which won't happen for a while.

Yeah, sorry to be such a downer.

- Atomic Wedgie


Vaccine November 1st. Season opens December 1st. Plan the (Inauguration) parade
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
I can't see Barrie getting a raise.

The thing I keep thinking about is the uncertainty surrounding the 2020-21 season. Nobody seems to want to talk about that.

Will there even be a season? All Canadian division? How many games?

I just don't think it's financially viable for half the franchises to play without ticket sales.

NBC is adamant that the season will have to end by the third week of July.

Are companies really going to re-up on luxury boxes in non-traditional markets?

I see a lot of teams not spending anything next year - just basically hoping to survive until things get back to "normal" - which won't happen for a while.

Yeah, sorry to be such a downer.

- Atomic Wedgie


5.75 million isn't 60% on his worth. I never thought he would get 8 million.

Would he get 6? Quite possibly.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
If that deal didn't fall through it would have been the most cap circumventing deal in history...also he was a veteran.
- AdamFrench


He was a veteran, and he certainly maximized his return. Agree that deal was a beauty as far as weaseling out of the Cap. But Kovalchuk was having cognac and vodka playing with his Russian buddies and living off that contract for quite a while. Meanwhile NJ was sucking bigtime.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 9 @ 4:17 PM ET
In this case, I think it has a lot less to do with the GMs, than a mandate from above and an internal salary cap. I mean, given a free rein and no salary cap, GMs would be super silly indeed. If there's no silly season, it will be because of the bean counters, not because the GMs are suddenly embracing fiscal sanity.
- Doc_Sarcasm

And just the regular, good old salary cap.

Take a look at the Coyotes. They are absolutely franked.

Same with Tampa.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
And just the regular, good old salary cap.

Take a look at the Coyotes. They are absolutely franked.

Same with Tampa.

- Atomic Wedgie



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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
Vaccine November 1st 4th. Season opens December 1st. Plan the (Inauguration) parade
- Canada Cup


fixed that for ya.

depending on who wins, prolly.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
I do not think Simmonds is worth signing. I think he would be horrid as a leaf with their style and at some point the wheels just fall off a guy. I prefer Spezza for the old vet player as he plays center at least.
- Aaron_85


I agree, wouldn't mind Perry on a Leaf friendly deal. He has the pyjamas.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
5.75 million isn't 60% on his worth. I never thought he would get 8 million.

Would he get 6? Quite possibly.

- Aaron_85

My prediction is he gets $4.5M on a short term deal.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
And just the regular, good old salary cap.

Take a look at the Coyotes. They are absolutely franked.

Same with Tampa.

- Atomic Wedgie



I was shocked to see someone's column yesterday (or day before) with Arizona as the most (frank)ed team salary-wise. But, apparently it is so.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:21 PM ET
My prediction is he gets $4.5M on a short term deal.
- Atomic Wedgie


i'll see your 4.5m and raise you a million.

i can't see anything more than that for him.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
I was shocked to see someone's column yesterday (or day before) with Arizona as the most (frank)ed team salary-wise. But, apparently it is so.
- Doc_Sarcasm

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes

6 guys to sign, and just over $1M to do it.

At least there's no possibility now of re-signing Hall - hard to imagine them building a great future with no cap space and no picks for the next decade.

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
My prediction is he gets $4.5M on a short term deal.
- Atomic Wedgie



$20 and I say it's 5.5 or above.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 9 @ 4:27 PM ET
Just reading an article in the Athletic on Vegas' options with Lehner and Fleury.

That's a sticky mess.

This whole offseason is going to be must see TV - I really wonder if they are going to have to get creative with the CBA - create a taxi squad that doesn't get counted against the cap.

Anyone here think there will be an AHL season in 2020-21?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 9 @ 4:27 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes

6 guys to sign, and just over $1M to do it.

At least there's no possibility now of re-signing Hall - hard to imagine them building a great future with no cap space and no picks for the next decade.

- Atomic Wedgie



Its just that they are usually Team Salary Floor and not Team Up Against the Cap, arent they?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
I was shocked to see someone's column yesterday (or day before) with Arizona as the most (frank)ed team salary-wise. But, apparently it is so.
- Doc_Sarcasm



They have four bad contracts Stepan, Keller, Kessel and Schmaltz. Five if you count OEL
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
Just reading an article in the Athletic on Vegas' options with Lehner and Fleury.

That's a sticky mess.

This whole offseason is going to be must see TV - I really wonder if they are going to have to get creative with the CBA - create a taxi squad that doesn't get counted against the cap.

Anyone here think there will be an AHL season in 2020-21?

- Atomic Wedgie


Unless the big teams pony up money to help the AHL bubble as well, they won't have a season I think.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 9 @ 4:29 PM ET
Just reading an article in the Athletic on Vegas' options with Lehner and Fleury.

That's a sticky mess.

This whole offseason is going to be must see TV - I really wonder if they are going to have to get creative with the CBA - create a taxi squad that doesn't get counted against the cap.

Anyone here think there will be an AHL season in 2020-21?

- Atomic Wedgie



I don't know what to think in terms of what the future (near or long term) holds. Half the time, I don't even want to live on this planet anymore.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:29 PM ET
I was shocked to see someone's column yesterday (or day before) with Arizona as the most (frank)ed team salary-wise. But, apparently it is so.
- Doc_Sarcasm


it's so bad and who are they going to ice? Like a goalie has to go for sure. An old D-man has to go and there's a NMC to Grabner of all players!
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Sep 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
it's so bad and who are they going to ice? Like a goalie has to go for sure. An old D-man has to go and there's a NMC to Grabner of all players!
- Aaron_85



oof
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
They have four bad contracts Stepan, Keller, Kessel and Schmaltz. Five if you count OEL
- winsix


kessel and stepan are done. complete anchors. grabner is also pretty much done.

schmaltz is overpaid, would be tough to move. but at least he's a decent player.

keller's big contract kicks in next year. he needs to find is role as a play maker. too weak of a shot. if he doesn't find some confidence, that contract will start to really smell bad.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 9 @ 4:34 PM ET
Doing rough, back of the envelope math:

Andersen had 65 points (29-13-7) in 52 games.

Campbell had 7 points (3-2-1) in 6 games.

Extrapolated over an 82 game season, that's 102 points.

Then allow me to add some blue-koolaid factors:

They played much better post-Babs.

Rielly and Muzzin injuries.

The goaltending wasn't the problem - same as against Columbus.

- Atomic Wedgie


Don't let Roger see this.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:37 PM ET
Just reading an article in the Athletic on Vegas' options with Lehner and Fleury.

That's a sticky mess.

This whole offseason is going to be must see TV - I really wonder if they are going to have to get creative with the CBA - create a taxi squad that doesn't get counted against the cap.

Anyone here think there will be an AHL season in 2020-21?

- Atomic Wedgie

Once the season ends moves are going to come fast and furious.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
kessel and stepan are done. complete anchors. grabner is also pretty much done.

schmaltz is overpaid, would be tough to move. but at least he's a decent player.

keller's big contract kicks in next year. he needs to find is role as a play maker. too weak of a shot. if he doesn't find some confidence, that contract will start to really smell bad.

- Tumbleweed


I think one of them is movable. Kessel likely to be picked up with some retained salary. Someone will think he just needs a change of scenery.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 9 @ 4:40 PM ET
Don't let Roger see this.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Roeper is likely still reeling from Lou being nominated for GM of the year.
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