But i just made sense of it....how could that be possible?

22 and I will just chalk this one up for a W, old man.
- Wingdestroyer

You think you made sense of it. I don't think you did but that's typical with 22 year olds.

You think you made sense of it. I don't think you did but that's typical with 22 year olds.
- MJL

That's fine we disagree. That doesn't make anything "common sense". Also, was referring to anderson22....i'm like, way older than that, lol.

That's fine we disagree. That doesn't make anything "common sense". Also, was referring to anderson22....i'm like, way older than that, lol.
- Wingdestroyer

Makes it even worse. Bottom line is, if hypothetically (you now can't criticize this) there was no salary cap, I could probably get on board. However there is a salary cap. It does not make sense for the Flyers to take on that contract moving forward.

I didn't ignore anything from your post. I keep forgetting that these proposals of yours are just hypothetical, rendering them immune from criticism. Again, with your last comments, you are going off the deep end while telling others they need to calm down! I'm actually being nice about it.

- MJL

Being nice lol? Please you challenge anyone or anything that goes against your “correct” opinion.

Fletcher wants to improve the bottom 6. Sounds like an opportunity for Laczynski/Sandin/Allison/Rubstov.

HOW TO FIX THE FLYERS, SEPTEMBER 2020 EDITION

STEP 1: TRADE ALL OF THE EVERYBODY
STEP 2: (frank) THE RANGERS
STEP 3: ACQUIRE ALL OF THE OTHER ONES
STEP 4: SIGN THE ALL OF THE FREE AGENTS
STEP 5: (frank) THE RANGERS
STEP 6: WIN THE ONLY TROPHY THAT MATTERS, THE PRESIDENT'S TROPHY
STEP 7: REPEAT NEXT SEASON

But i just made sense of it....how could that be possible?

22 and I will just chalk this one up for a W, old man.
- Wingdestroyer

It doesn’t matter if you provide good reasoning or a fit. He already deemed it stupid in his mighty opinion. You’d think some NHL clubs would call this guy for a GM spot

HOW TO FIX THE FLYERS, SEPTEMBER 2020 EDITION

STEP 1: TRADE ALL OF THE EVERYBODY
STEP 2: (frank) THE RANGERS
STEP 3: ACQUIRE ALL OF THE OTHER ONES
STEP 4: SIGN THE ALL OF THE FREE AGENTS
STEP 5: (frank) THE RANGERS
STEP 6: WIN THE ONLY TROPHY THAT MATTERS, THE PRESIDENT'S TROPHY
STEP 7: REPEAT NEXT SEASON
- jmatchett383

Where does "SIGN BYFUGLIEN" fit in this?

You think you made sense of it. I don't think you did but that's typical with 22 year olds.
- MJL

Lol 22 is my favorite number. Not my age. Wrong again, genius.

Makes it even worse. Bottom line is, if hypothetically (you now can't criticize this) there was no salary cap, I could probably get on board. However there is a salary cap. It does not make sense for the Flyers to take on that contract moving forward.
- MJL

Well with Braun and Nisky off the books,
Jake would be going on the deal, as well as cap going up eventually, the deal fits cap wise technically.

Being nice lol? Please you challenge anyone or anything that goes against your “correct” opinion.
- arichardson22

I don't have an issue with dissenting opinions. Trust me, if you do disagree with me, I will not respond as you have done!

Where does "SIGN BYFUGLIEN" fit in this?
- Wingdestroyer

Please see step 4.

Well with Braun and Nisky off the books,
Jake would be going on the deal, as well as cap going up eventually, the deal fits cap wise technically.
- arichardson22

Nskanen has another year left. It's not about being able to fit the contract in. It's about whether it is smart to take the contract on. In my opinion, it is not.

Lol 22 is my favorite number. Not my age. Wrong again, genius.
- arichardson22

Wasn't responding to you in that post.


Nah, you're not going off the deep end at all!

I wouldn’t expect much. And I don’t feel too much is needed. Free agents, albeit, some lower cost role players, are out. And I just don’t see big trades.... especially not Sanheim for Nylander type trades.

Coots is definitely not going anywhere and with a flat cap, Jake and G aren’t either, unless you want someone else’s highly paid castoff.

Hopefully the top guns CONDITION in the offseason, Lindblom and Patrick continue to get healthier and stronger, and Frost, Farabee, and some other top prospects continue to develop. The pieces are here outside of some depth moves.

Wait...people on here really want to sign Tyler Toffoli to a long-term, big-$$ contract?

Please see step 4.
- jmatchett383

dammit...i missed such an important step

Wait...people on here really want to sign Tyler Toffoli to a long-term, big-$$ contract?
- jmatchett383

No, no, no. We're getting him for 3 years at 5M a season.

Nskanen has another year left. It's not about being able to fit the contract in. It's about whether it is smart to take the contract on. In my opinion, it is not.
- MJL

Yes I know and I mentioned that in a previous post, but OEL is 7 years as you mentioned. You said If there was no salary cap you’d Do it. That comes off as a cap fitting issue. It’s not like we are taking it on along with Jakes contract. If OEL is really available, it’s safe to say a ton of teams would be interested. Not sure why you’re making it out to be like OEL isn’t a top pairing guy.

Yes I know and I mentioned that in a previous post, but OEL is 7 years as you mentioned. You said If there was no salary cap you’d Do it. That comes off as a cap fitting issue. It’s not like we are taking it on along with Jakes contract. If OEL is really available, it’s safe to say a ton of teams would be interested. Not sure why you’re making it out to be like OEL isn’t a top pairing guy.
- arichardson22

No, it doesn't come off as a cap fitting issue. It's a cap management issue. Just because you can fit a cap hit in, doesn't mean it's a good decision to do so. Every team is in a different place with different needs and different situations in regards to many factors. You can claim I'm making it out to be anything you want.

Yes I know and I mentioned that in a previous post, but OEL is 7 years as you mentioned. You said If there was no salary cap you’d Do it. That comes off as a cap fitting issue. It’s not like we are taking it on along with Jakes contract. If OEL is really available, it’s safe to say a ton of teams would be interested. Not sure why you’re making it out to be like OEL isn’t a top pairing guy.
- arichardson22

And he'd be that throughout those 7 years. For 4 of those he'd be replacing Jake's money so, as you say, it's not an issue against the cap.

It's also weird b/c MLJ has stated wingers were far less important to your team than "down the middle"...which is centerman, goalies and, wait for it....defense.

So if it's fair market value, non intrusive for 4 years, and for a more important position, i fail to see why it would be "COMMON SENSE" that it's a bad contract for the Flyers?

And he'd be that throughout those 7 years. For 4 of those he'd be replacing Jake's money so, as you say, it's not an issue against the cap.

It's also weird b/c MLJ has stated wingers were far less important to your team than "down the middle"...which is centerman, goalies and, wait for it....defense.

So if it's fair market value, non intrusive for 4 years, and for a more important position, i fail to see why it would be "COMMON SENSE" that it's a bad contract for the Flyers?
- Wingdestroyer

Idk man I can’t see it either. And imo, if we offered Jake for OEL straight up, ARZ says no.

Idk man I can’t see it either. And imo, if we offered Jake for OEL straight up, ARZ says no.
- arichardson22

oh duh....that's their captain to boot!

And he'd be that throughout those 7 years. For 4 of those he'd be replacing Jake's money so, as you say, it's not an issue against the cap.

It's also weird b/c MLJ has stated wingers were far less important to your team than "down the middle"...which is centerman, goalies and, wait for it....defense.

So if it's fair market value, non intrusive for 4 years, and for a more important position, i fail to see why it would be "COMMON SENSE" that it's a bad contract for the Flyers?
- Wingdestroyer

Here is some common sense for you. I'm not against the potential trade because we are giving up a winger for a defenseman, so your point of what position is most important is not a factor in my not wanting to take on OEL's contract. You have to look at the complete picture. Including who you have, who's coming and who has to be signed in the future. As far as fair market value, I don't believe that Arizona would trade OEL for Voracek.

No, it doesn't come off as a cap fitting issue. It's a cap management issue. Just because you can fit a cap hit in, doesn't mean it's a good decision to do so. Every team is in a different place with different needs and different situations in regards to many factors. You can claim I'm making it out to be anything you want.
- MJL

I mean they aren’t same player as OEL but I’d assume contracts would be similar (pre covid) but many many flyers fans saw Torey Krug or even Piertangelo as a free agency target this offseason With Cap was rumored to go up 7-10M (if I remember Correctly before pandemic). Wouldn’t you think cap goes up after next season to make whatver cap situation easier.