Here is some common sense for you. I'm not against the potential trade because we are giving up a winger for a defenseman, so your point of what position is most important is not a factor in my not wanting to take on OEL's contract. You have to look at the complete picture. Including who you have, who's coming and who has to be signed in the future. As far as fair market value, I don't believe that Arizona wold trade OEL for Voracek.
- MJL

So if OELs contract is bad, then why wouldn’t ARZ try to get rid of it🤔? ARZ has more cap issues than us too.

I mean they aren’t same player as OEL but I’d assume contracts would be similar (pre covid) but many many flyers fans saw Torey Krug or even Piertangelo as a free agency target this offseason With Cap was rumored to go up 7-10M (if I remember Correctly before pandemic). Wouldn’t you think cap goes up after next season to make whatver cap situation easier.
- arichardson22

Maybe but what else is going to be going up at some point for the Flyers?

So if OELs contract is bad, then why wouldn’t ARZ try to get rid of it🤔? ARZ has more cap issues than us too.
- arichardson22

What aren't you getting? I didn't say his contract is bad. I said it's not a contract the Flyers should be taking on.

Maybe but what else is going to be going up at some point for the Flyers?
- MJL

Their salary cap allowance?

Their salary cap allowance?
- Wingdestroyer

Reread what he posted.

Reread what he posted.
- MJL

I did...i don't think adding a high priced FA would be a good idea at all on top of our current cap, that's to be sure.

But the cap is going to be going up (at least a little) in a few years time, one would assume. That allows for room to up the RFA's of some less than high profile/performing youngsters don't you think?

Or maybe i totally missed your point, sorry.

I did...i don't think adding a high priced FA would be a good idea at all on top of our current cap, that's to be sure.

But the cap is going to be going up (at least a little) in a few years time, one would assume. That allows for room to up the RFA's of some less than high profile/performing youngsters don't you think?

Or maybe i totally missed your point, sorry.
- Wingdestroyer

The other post included the cap going up.

The other post included the cap going up.
- MJL

On that note, but switching gears a bit, I'm curious what you and others think is the 3-5 year gauge of Sanheim and Myers' top salary. Maybe not what they end up getting in UFA money in time, but what they might get with the Flyers by like 2025?

I very much love those two as a pair, but think they both max out their potential at very good #3 dmen. They will be good at a bunch of stuff but have flaws that, for whatever reason, will never go away. I kinda see them more as Braydon Coburns than true top pair guys.

On that note, but switching gears a bit, I'm curious what you and others think is the 3-5 year gauge of Sanheim and Myers' top salary. Maybe not what they end up getting in UFA money in time, but what they might get with the Flyers by like 2025?

I very much love those two as a pair, but think they both max out their potential at very good #3 dmen. They will be good at a bunch of stuff but have flaws that, for whatever reason, will never go away. I kinda see them more as Braydon Coburns than true top pair guys.
- Wingdestroyer

Both still have potential for top pairing. Coburn played on a top pair but really wasn't a true top pairing guy. When he first came to the Flyers, Coburn had offensive potential but he either fizzled out in that regard or the Flyers took it out of him with usage. Both Sanheim and Myers have potential as all situations players. We'll have to see how they progress. Have to remember that Myers was a rookie. His raw physical skills are impressive. Sanheim looked like a deer in headlights in the playoffs at time but I'm not down on him.

Both still have potential for top pairing. Coburn played on a top pair but really wasn't a true top pairing guy. When he first came to the Flyers, Coburn had offensive potential but he either fizzled out in that regard or the Flyers took it out of him with usage. Both Sanheim and Myers have potential as all situations players. We'll have to see how they progress. Have to remember that Myers was a rookie. His raw physical skills are impressive. Sanheim looked like a deer in headlights in the playoffs at time but I'm not down on him.
- MJL

I am high on both, don't get me wrong. I don't think either NEEDS to become a legit top pair dman for them to be considered a success. I wouldn't be surprised if either really just turns it on and establishes themselves as a true top pairing guy, either.

Neither of them better go the other way for Nylander tho

I am high on both, don't get me wrong. I don't think either NEEDS to become a legit top pair dman for them to be considered a success. I wouldn't be surprised if either really just turns it on and establishes themselves as a true top pairing guy, either.

Neither of them better go the other way for Nylander tho
- Wingdestroyer

Like you said previously, if they work out to be a really strong two way 2nd pair for the Flyers for a decade, that's a huge boost to the team. I agree, Nylander is not worth either player.

So Toffoli is going to sign a UFA contract for 3 years and for 5M a year? Thanks, you've told me everything I need to know.
- MJL

As it was informative..... the only way we could sign tof is if someone was traded for just picks.

Where on the wing would he play?

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He’s not gonna sign to play on the third line.

Both still have potential for top pairing. Coburn played on a top pair but really wasn't a true top pairing guy. When he first came to the Flyers, Coburn had offensive potential but he either fizzled out in that regard or the Flyers took it out of him with usage. Both Sanheim and Myers have potential as all situations players. We'll have to see how they progress. Have to remember that Myers was a rookie. His raw physical skills are impressive. Sanheim looked like a deer in headlights in the playoffs at time but I'm not down on him.
- MJL

Didn’t Coburn only have one good offensive year. He was on the pp on the right circle just waiting for one timers. Agree he wasn’t a true top pairing guy. But Kimmo. Well he was a beast. With the other pieces we had on our pp no one worries about him as much. Once he moved back he couldn’t hit the net. Just what I remember. But I think his goal total did decline each year.

Maybe but what else is going to be going up at some point for the Flyers?
- MJL

A eastern conference and Stanley cup banner.

Fletcher wants to improve the bottom 6. Sounds like an opportunity for Laczynski/Sandin/Allison/Rubstov.
- Wingdestroyer

Most interested in seeing laczynski. Allison why so promising worries me as he has had injury woes

FWIW Evolving Hockey predicts Toffoli gets 6 mil x 7 if he does not sign with Vancouver. This seems about right to me in a normal year. However this year I think UFAs other than the top handful will see less length or term. There may be some “bargains” out there but I don’t think this is the direction the Flyers go.
- Djapana

Jesus. That’s the price for. 40 some point getter.

Why was everyone so mad about the Hayes signing?

A eastern conference and Stanley cup banner.
- Peter Richards

I like it.

What time are they announcing Bergeron's Selke win?

I like it.

- MJL

I hope tanner. Being 23. May be able to step into the 4 th line center role.

What time are they announcing Bergeron's Selke win?
- MBFlyerfan

I hope not. At least someone else who doesn’t have the team behind the. Like barkov.

I am high on both, don't get me wrong. I don't think either NEEDS to become a legit top pair dman for them to be considered a success. I wouldn't be surprised if either really just turns it on and establishes themselves as a true top pairing guy, either.

Neither of them better go the other way for Nylander tho
- Wingdestroyer

They could. Both still have room to grow and hopefully will. Prime years for a d man are 26-31. Good size and skating. The promising aspect imo is both have improved steadily each year. That will plateau but not yet.

Has Myers surpassed Sanheim in his development and overall play?

Just a thought that came up after reading Ek's "rumor" of potential talks between Toronto and Flyers.
- shekkie

What aspect of the game. Myers has a better stick and physicality. Sanhiem has better movement up ice with the puck and passing.

A puck moving defenseman, who can replace Gostisbehere. If you can get more than that, great. Trade Gostisbehere for a big, physical winger, or sign Tyler Toffoli. It won't be an easy job for Fletcher this offseason. He has some big decisions to make, and work to do. The team has a lot of promising, young talent, but several big holes in their lineup to fill.
- CupOnBroadSt.

I don’t think Ghost needs to be replace. In fact, at his best, we’ll probably never see such a force from the blue line offensively again. With this said, we didn’t need him in the playoffs and I’d say Provorov, Sanheim, Myers and Niskanen do more then enough to replace what Ghost offers.

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Here we go.