So we are selling high on Coots now right?

Maybe Parise? Lucic? B.Ryan?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I think we should take the poo-poo platter from Toronto: Nylander, Marincin, Kerfoot, Hyman and a 5th.

So we are selling high on Coots now right?

Maybe Parise? Lucic? B.Ryan?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Voracek and Couturier for Parise.

Just read Bill's post and Fletcher transcript.

A few things stand out to me; I'm surprised that there weren't any real injuries to report other than the obvious injuries to Raffl, NAK and Couturier (late in the Islanders series). I thought for sure we'd hear something about Koneckny, Giroux, and Couturier being hurt going into the Montreal series. I was kind of hoping that was why they weren't pointing up points.

I was a little surprised that he seemed to be blaming the lack of scoring, in the playoffs, more on the bottom six rather than the poor play of their top players. Seems to me that when the power play is as anemic as it was the blame lands squarely on the top players.

I got nothing from his comments on Patrick.

I was reassured that he's not looking to go full-Homer and and trade kids away for quick fixes. I liked this quote, "The way this franchise has been built, preceding me and going back to Ron Hextall and what his mission was. Clearly we’re an organization that’s put a lot emphasis on drafting and developing of players. We have a lot of young players that are either on the team or trying to push their way onto the team. I don’t think it makes sense to do a 180 and change philosophy at this point in time."

I dont know why people construed what he said about Frost as saying he was a bust? Sounds like Frost needs to get stronger and that he needs learn to be a little smarter about his play in the neutral zone before he can be trusted to play in the NHL especially in the playoffs. Sounds reasonable to me.

So we are selling high on Coots now right?

Maybe Parise? Lucic? B.Ryan?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

We sold high on recchi 😂😂😂😂😂

Just read Bill's post and Fletcher transcript.

A few things stand out to me; I'm surprised that there weren't any real injuries to report other than the obvious injuries to Raffl, NAK and Couturier (late in the Islanders series). I thought for sure we'd hear something about Koneckny, Giroux, and Couturier being hurt going into the Montreal series. I was kind of hoping that was why they weren't pointing up points.

I was a little surprised that he seemed to be blaming the lack of scoring, in the playoffs, more on the bottom six rather than the poor play of their top players. Seems to me that when the power play is as anemic as it was the blame lands squarely on the top players.

I got nothing from his comments on Patrick.

I was reassured that he's not looking to go full-Homer and and trade kids away for quick fixes. I liked this quote, "The way this franchise has been built, preceding me and going back to Ron Hextall and what his mission was. Clearly we’re an organization that’s put a lot emphasis on drafting and developing of players. We have a lot of young players that are either on the team or trying to push their way onto the team. I don’t think it makes sense to do a 180 and change philosophy at this point in time."

I dont know why people construed what he said about Frost as saying he was a bust? Sounds like Frost needs to get stronger and that he needs learn to be a little smarter about his play in the neutral zone before he can be trusted to play in the NHL especially in the playoffs. Sounds reasonable to me.
- Dkos

Too much weight into him not playing during playoffs. What is not considered. He was in the bubble getting time with the training staff and minimal at practice. Even if it was only 5 mins a day. That’s more time than not being there. And like Patrick. The extra time of lay-off hopefully helped him put in 10 pounds.

Just read Bill's post and Fletcher transcript.

A few things stand out to me; I'm surprised that there weren't any real injuries to report other than the obvious injuries to Raffl, NAK and Couturier (late in the Islanders series). I thought for sure we'd hear something about Koneckny, Giroux, and Couturier being hurt going into the Montreal series. I was kind of hoping that was why they weren't pointing up points.

I was a little surprised that he seemed to be blaming the lack of scoring, in the playoffs, more on the bottom six rather than the poor play of their top players. Seems to me that when the power play is as anemic as it was the blame lands squarely on the top players.

I got nothing from his comments on Patrick.

I was reassured that he's not looking to go full-Homer and and trade kids away for quick fixes. I liked this quote, "The way this franchise has been built, preceding me and going back to Ron Hextall and what his mission was. Clearly we’re an organization that’s put a lot emphasis on drafting and developing of players. We have a lot of young players that are either on the team or trying to push their way onto the team. I don’t think it makes sense to do a 180 and change philosophy at this point in time."

I dont know why people construed what he said about Frost as saying he was a bust? Sounds like Frost needs to get stronger and that he needs learn to be a little smarter about his play in the neutral zone before he can be trusted to play in the NHL especially in the playoffs. Sounds reasonable to me.
- Dkos

No one said he was a bust, that I can remember anyway. I exaggerated that part. A few posters apparently took away that management might have soured on him a bit.

Honest question. Bobby Ryan or JVR? Bobby Ryan has one less year. He is 33 though and has a NMC. I am sure he would waive the NMC to come to Philly.
- mickel25

Ryan

No one said he was a bust, that I can remember anyway. I exaggerated that part. A few posters apparently took away that management might have soured on him a bit.
- Ftown19125

Yeah they soured a bit because they know they have poop core and they want him here now to appease. But doesn’t work that way. Frost will be a nice player he’s young. They grow at different paces.

Thoughts on a Caleb Jones for Farabee trade? Where does Farabee stand in terms of the future of this team? How does the defensive depth look like regarding the top 4 down the road?

I think Jones could be a valuable asset for you guys. Jones is establishing himself as an NHL defender and did quite well this season (still young too; 23). IMO, his potential is a great top 4 defender in the long run.

Provorov-Sanheim
Jones-Myers

as the top 4 D-corps in a few years would be nice for you guys if all goes well. Combos can be rearranged but that's a pretty slick top 4 corps to build a team upon.

Thoughts on a Caleb Jones for Farabee trade? Where does Farabee stand in terms of the future of this team? How does the defensive depth look like regarding the top 4 down the road?

I think Jones could be a valuable asset for you guys. Jones is establishing himself as an NHL defender and did quite well this season (still young too; 23). IMO, his potential is a great top 4 defender in the long run.

Provorov-Sanheim
Jones-Myers

as the top 4 D-corps in a few years would be nice for you guys if all goes well. Combos can be rearranged but that's a pretty slick top 4 corps to build a team upon.
- EdmHockeyMan

Admittedly I know very little about Caleb Jones. That said, the Flyers already have a very good pipeline of defenders beyond what's already in the NHL. If I am trading Farabee I would like it to be for an obvious upgrade. Not sure that Jones fits that bill.

Thoughts on a Caleb Jones for Farabee trade? Where does Farabee stand in terms of the future of this team? How does the defensive depth look like regarding the top 4 down the road?

I think Jones could be a valuable asset for you guys. Jones is establishing himself as an NHL defender and did quite well this season (still young too; 23). IMO, his potential is a great top 4 defender in the long run.

Provorov-Sanheim
Jones-Myers

as the top 4 D-corps in a few years would be nice for you guys if all goes well. Combos can be rearranged but that's a pretty slick top 4 corps to build a team upon.
- EdmHockeyMan

Caleb Jones doesnt really fit a need and Farabee is going to get much, much better with a little seasoning and some physical maturity (he's still 19). There are probably a few armchair GMs here who are ready to trade all our guys for all of everyone else's guys. I however, think Farabee is a huge piece for the future.

nah eichel..he wants out
- login

Coots York Sanheim 2 first they’d probably want. And I’d do it it in a heartbeat

Thoughts on a Caleb Jones for Farabee trade? Where does Farabee stand in terms of the future of this team? How does the defensive depth look like regarding the top 4 down the road?

I think Jones could be a valuable asset for you guys. Jones is establishing himself as an NHL defender and did quite well this season (still young too; 23). IMO, his potential is a great top 4 defender in the long run.

Provorov-Sanheim
Jones-Myers

as the top 4 D-corps in a few years would be nice for you guys if all goes well. Combos can be rearranged but that's a pretty slick top 4 corps to build a team upon.
- EdmHockeyMan

We have York coming. Projects as a krug type. Bee could be top line winger. Not giving that up for 2nd pair dman when d isn’t needed

Coots York Sanheim 2 first they’d probably want. And I’d do it it in a heartbeat
- SMS4016

I bet some here wouldn't even do "coots" straight up for him

Thanks for the responses.

Looks like the Flyers and Edmonton aren't really good trade partners then based on the needs of each team.

Thanks for the responses.

Looks like the Flyers and Edmonton aren't really good trade partners then based on the needs of each team.
- EdmHockeyMan

If you are looking to offload that McDavid fella we could probably work something out.

But bill will probably say same thing in more polite way
- SMS4016

Thanks, but I meant Bill Meltzer, not Bill SMS. I was hoping for an answer from someone who might know. You know, someone who works for the Flyers instead of working the Flyers.
Also, I highly doubt he'll say what you did. Even more politely.

If you are looking to offload that McDavid fella we could probably work something out.
- mickel25

In your dreams.

Bill,
Your class is showing. You've been accused of being MJL to increase viewership and been mocked as the best writer on HB (someone HAS to be best), yet you take the time to answer questions.
Can you answer this? I still see many people essentially blaming Dave Scott for Hextall's firing. I always understood it that it was not as much "win now" as it was wanting to know the long-term plan and Hextall was reluctant to share with his bosses what that was. That seems more evident with Fletcher's quotes about staying the course; basically continuing with Hexy's formula. At that time, you seemed to have a better understanding than us about what went down, but could not disclose the details.
Is Dave Scott running the Flyers on-ice product, or have the last two GM's been in charge?
- Stanley Cup

I'm surprised that you give any recognition to the idea that I'm Bill. Since I've been accused of being Bill, allow me to answer. I don't believe that it is true that Hextall was reluctant to share what his long term plan was. Hextall was very upfront with what his plan was. What Scott and Holmgren didn't like was that it was taking too long and they lost patience. The irony is that even with Fletcher's move, we're still basically in the same spot. Waiting on the youth.

I'm surprised that you give any recognition to the idea that I'm Bill. Since I've been accused of being Bill, allow me to answer. I don't believe that it is true that Hextall was reluctant to share what his long term plan was. Hextall was very upfront with what his plan was. What Scott and Holmgren didn't like was that it was taking too long and they lost patience. The irony is that even with Fletcher's move, we're still basically in the same spot. Waiting on the youth.
- MJL

Thanks for your reply, but please note that I do not believe, at all, what has been suggested about you being Bill.
That said, I would really like to hear Bill's explanation if he can provide it. I have heard what you and others have been saying here, but we are the guessers, while Bill is much more likely to know what really went down. It was mentioned at Hexy's firing that he would not share his plan with Holmgren and Scott, and that (along with spying on players, shutting out alumni, etc.) is why he was fired. And by not sharing his plan, I don't mean the big picture, but what the immediate next steps were to be.

Coots York Sanheim 2 first they’d probably want. And I’d do it it in a heartbeat
- SMS4016

That seems like a lot for one player.

Thanks for your reply, but please note that I do not believe, at all, what has been suggested about you being Bill.
That said, I would really like to hear Bill's explanation if he can provide it. I have heard what you and others have been saying here, but we are the guessers, while Bill is much more likely to know what really went down. It was mentioned at Hexy's firing that he would not share his plan with Holmgren and Scott, and that (along with spying on players, shutting out alumni, etc.) is why he was fired. And by not sharing his plan, I don't mean the big picture, but what the immediate next steps were to be.
- Stanley Cup

I think all of the stuff about spying, shutting out alumni was just an excuse but that's just my opinion. It was about not being relevant. Scott wants the Flyers to contend every year and to be a cap team. I actually think the cap being flat could be a blessing in disguise for the Flyers.

I don't know. Pitlick and Thompson both at $1 mil each. Grant at $700K. Not bad. I assume Pitlick would get a slight bump but I think for a veteran 4C, Thompson and Grant aren't bad options.

Thanks, but I meant Bill Meltzer, not Bill SMS. I was hoping for an answer from someone who might know. You know, someone who works for the Flyers instead of working the Flyers.
Also, I highly doubt he'll say what you did. Even more politely.
- Stanley Cup

Well then. If anyone says or thinks hexy firing didn’t come from Scott via homer not backing his man is a sheep. I don’t think Bill is a sheep. And he’s not really closely tied to flyers org. He’s not part of their pr department that’s gonna spew company line

I don't know. Pitlick and Thompson both at $1 mil each. Grant at $700K. Not bad. I assume Pitlick would get a slight bump but I think for a veteran 4C, Thompson and Grant aren't bad options.
- cdearth23

I'd have no issue bringing Thompson back as a depth forward on a vet minimum one year deal.